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#1 Hemantnew

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 11:31 AM

i want to write in ntfs while booting from dos i was using ghosting for making backup of partition but now as hard disk are big and they have windos vista which has ntfs partition my ghost program does not back up in ntfs partion please help

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 12:19 PM

im wondering why 'd u need to write on ntfs ? besides u should resize the target ntfs partition to absorb the back up of vista partition.

btw paragon mount everything , ntfs4dos are commercial softs to read/write access for ntfs in dos.

use parted magic cd to resize the partitions...(if thats what u need to do ,at least thats what i could understand ).

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 01:01 PM

btw paragon mount everything , ntfs4dos are commercial softs to read/write access for ntfs in dos.


Well, NO. :lol:

NTFS4DOS is Freeware for Personal Use only.

Paragon offers for Free (Registration Required) NTFS for Windows98:
http://www.paragon-s...ome/ntfs-win98/

Paragon Mount Everything appears to have been discontinued:
http://209.85.135.13...jYk...ing"&cd=2
http://209.85.129.13...m...s.html&cd=1
and in any case the DOS driver was Read Only, AFAICR.

Moreover there are several available solutions, of which a pretty large number Free, running on 2K/XP or either PE 1.x, Pe 2.x or Linux, to clone/image a disk or drive.

Good lists of them are given here:
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=16534
http://www.msfn.org/...opic=100299&hl=

I guess it's time to forget about DOS for this kind of activities. ;)

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#4 MedEvil

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 01:27 PM

Why forget about the best OS ever? :lol:
As far as i know, no program requires to be able to read the used filesystem to backup a partition.

;)

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 03:49 PM

oops my bad, bt ntfs4dos is also discontinued . but it is metnioned that it has read/write access in dos.
:lol:

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 05:05 PM

Why forget about the best OS ever? ;)
As far as i know, no program requires to be able to read the used filesystem to backup a partition.

;)


Right ;) (about the best OS ever), but not fully (about the imaging done in DOS) :lol:, not a problem in actually imaging the drive (in the sense that it is not needed to "understand" the filesystem of the "source") but the problem may rise when storing the image on a NTFS formatted partition. ;)

In other words for "pure cloning" from HD to HD, it is not necessary for the running OS to understand the filesystem used (dd-like), but for "imaging" the OS needs to be able to access the "target" storage device, which usually nowadays is NTFS (mainly because FAT32 has a 4 Gb filesize limit).

oops my bad, bt ntfs4dos is also discontinued . but it is metnioned that it has read/write access in dos.
;)

Yep ;), the not-so-slight difference is that NTFS4DOS:
http://www.free-av.c...s_personal.html
is discontinued AND kept available (unsupported) as Free for personal use only, whilst the Paragon Mount Everything is discontinued AND apparently NOT available anymore. ;)

;)

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 06:28 PM

*moved topic to DOS section.

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#8 Jotnar

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 02:25 AM

There's actually one more freely available (for personal use only) read/write NTFS DOS driver.

Paragon's DOS IFS driver.

You can get it with any of the free (express) versions of the partition management or drive backup software you can download from their site or any of the recent giveaway software they do through magazines/websites. All you need the the recovery cd iso for whichever program you downloaded. Inside you'll find a floppy disk image named dos.img. Open it up and look inside the ntfs4dos folder. ndos.exe (164kb 8/15/2007) is the executable and the readme file will tell you what you need to run it.

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Paragon DOS IFS driver.
Copyright © Paragon 2003-2008.

Paragon IFS driver allows user to access non-DOS file systems under DOS.
This version supports NTFS, Ext2FS, Ext3FS and hidden FAT/FAT32.

1. System requirements.

- Intel 386+ CPU on your PC;
- 4Mb RAM or more;
- MS-compatible DOS version 5.00+;
- XMS driver version 2+ - you need it to run other DPMI programs with DOS
IFS driver.

2. Installation and setup.

Copy all the files to the same directory. It's useful to include this
directory into your "PATH" environment settings.

3. Resident driver loading.

Run file ND.BAT:

ND <maximum XMS memory size in KBytes> [-LFN] [-MOUNTALL] [-NDEB]
[-CP:<code page number>]

The 1st parameter specifies extended memory to reserve for resident driver
(4096 - 4Mb seems to be enough).

The 2d parameter enables WIN long file name support. If you use this driver
in Win DOS prompt, some DOS commands so as DIR, COPY, DEL, MD, RD, REN can
show long file names and access the files by them.

The 3d parameter is used to mount all the partitions with file systems
supported by current version of driver.

The 4th parameter is used to run driver in debug mode with typing FS
error messages on the screen. Use this option if you have some troubles
with our program. Copy error messages accurately from the screen and mail
our support service.

The 5th parameter is used to support national file names. For each codepage
supported ".\NLS\" subdirectory of the IFS driver directory contains 2 files:
<number>.CPI - ASCII <=> Unicode convert table;
<number>.UCT - upper case convert table.

If you want to run other DPMI programs you should install HIMEM in your
CONFIG.SYS.

Don't run ND.BAT under Norton Commander!!!
(Run Norton after if you need it.)

4. Mounting the partitions.

You can use -MOUNTALL option of ND.BAT to mount all the accessible
partitions. Another way of mount/unmount the partitions is using
Paragon DOS PM Lite included in your complete install package.

5. IFS driver unloading.

Run file ND.BAT:

ND -C

This command dismounts all IFS mounted partitions and unloads resident
driver. "Access denied!" error message means that driver is not unloaded
because there are some open files on IFS mounted partitions or some interrupt
vectors used by IFS are hooked by another applications.

6. Found problems.

If you use DOS IFS driver with PTS DOS, don't set the option "DOS=HIGH" in
the CONFIG.SYS file - it causes DOS hung.



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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:52 AM

Ghost does not need a dos driver to write to NTFS from a dos diskette. Just save the .gho file to an NTFS partition.




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