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#26 ilko

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:54 AM

Bean123 - any plans for NTFS formatting option?

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 05:22 PM

Bean123 - any plans for NTFS formatting option?


Partition layout of NTFS is quite complicated, I don't think it is feasible to construct it in fbinst. Besides, you can still reformat the data partition as NTFS using the format command of windows.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:21 PM

SERVICE POST

Problems with fbinst and ZIP by guimenez split to a new thread, here:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=8047

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 09:58 AM

This really appears as a great stuff! ;)

I've given a look also to the original board and everything really seems so greatly interesting! :D

I will try it soon: thank you very much! :D


Btw: I found this thread thanks to a maanu's reporting and now I am really surprised that this topic still has not been pinned as (imo) it surely would deserve.

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:07 AM

Btw: I found this thread thanks to a maanu's reporting and now I am really surprised that this topic still has not been pinned as (imo) it surely would deserve.


It wasn't pinned intentionally, for TWO reasons:
  • it is still in full development
  • we wanted to really surprise you ;)

:D

However, as long as someone bumps it, it will float to the top of the forum and appear in "View Today's Posts" and "Posts since your last visit" searches.

:D

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:50 AM

on a side note > it seems bean is going to make a dream come true with its v 1.5 , in which as far as i could understand with google translate , there ll be option BEFORE the usb boots , that if we want to boot in syslinux or in G4d ,grub2 or simple NTLDR.

i know it seems crazy (in positive sense ) , btw in 1.3 , he has already introduced this feature PARTIALLY .

and online , u'r welcome dude . looking forward to ur testing on ur Asus board which only boots from hdd mode,,

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:55 AM

It wasn't pinned intentionally, for TWO reasons:

  • it is still in full development
  • we wanted to really surprise you ;)

;)

However, as long as someone bumps it, it will float to the top of the forum and appear in "View Today's Posts" and "Posts since your last visit" searches.

:D

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You "surely" know what I meant, and in my humble opinion it is not enough that with a new reply then the topic appears in the board's Welcome screen.
Frankly, I'm surprised also for another reason. I think you are one of the most (if not the most) effective, assiduos and reputed "member" out (and in) there: and I think that you cannot disregard about that.
Thanks to your knowledge and availability your words are very useful and considered, and almost always everybody thank you for your presence.
So, if and when you wish to support any "topic" then that topic itself is followed from many and many users, with a consequent greater (interest and) knowledge about itself.
If you don't (for any reason), then the topic itself will follow its "fate", and often it will forget in the fall.
I did not read anything of yours about it. And I still did not read about your interest.
So, I think that your "help" is crucial, and also I think that "noblesse oblige".
However I did not read everything-&-everywhere and sorry in advance if maybe I could be wrong. :D

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 11:34 AM

I did not read anything of yours about it. And I still did not read about your interest.


Like S.Thomas? ;)

The fact that you didn't read anything means that I never wrote anything about it? :)

Or that I am not interested because you haven't read anything written by me on the subject? ;)

http://www.boot-land...?...c=7916&st=3
http://www.msfn.org/...o...87993&st=17

:D

Since 07/05/2009, there has been roughly a release per week, each one with better and enhanced functionalities. :)

As you well know, I can boot all machines with "normal" methods, so I have no "direct" interest in the thing, nor a way to test it.

In case you don't know this, I am NOT payed to review and comment on any software release of the world. :D

FYI, lately, besides having a life ;), I was spending my time on other projects, some of which, and with no offence whatsoever intended for bean123's very good work :(, with a higher priority IMO:l
http://www.boot-land...?...ic=8027&hl=
http://www.boot-land...?...ic=7975&hl=
http://www.boot-land...?...ic=7934&hl=

;)

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 09:34 PM

@ bean123
H. Peter Anvin (developer of SYSLINUX) is interested in the techinical part of fbinst:

How will the USB sticks be structured and why do it that way?
Which BIOS versions are known to need a certain layout?

The Syslinux IRC channel: irc://irc.freenode.net#syslinux

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 07:55 AM

just for the record , he is going to incorporate syslinux to v 1.5 with g4d as option . i mean BEFORE any boot loader boots (at least thats what i could understand from google translate ) .

and btw v 1.4 is out . although i have not yet tested it it .

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 10:43 AM

@Bean123

fbinst is a very interesting tool!

suggestion: it would be nice if you can implement some kind of "refresh drive" ;)
after a format operation (currently a disconnect/reconnect of the flash drive is
needed to update the actual content, so fbinst is not fully usable in scripts).

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:21 PM

@ bean

congrats for releasing the final v1.4 .

are u by any means have any plan to make a official gui for this (and in english plzz ;) )

i have seen 2 Gui's of this tool , and jianliulin's gui seems promising . can u ask him to make a eng version too or plzzz add it to ur to-do list later (no time limit ;) )

thanks once again for such a neat tool,

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:23 PM

the fbinsttools 1.4 is on a chinese bbs but we need to register in order to dwnload, ;)(
An AutoIt script, could be an useful thing not only for newbies, but also for technicians, that can spend more time helping the kids..

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 05:57 AM

You have to download it from the original web-page (without registration). ;)

http://bbs.znpc.net/.....;extra=page=1

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 12:33 PM

FINALLY ,

a dream comes true .


syslinux , grub4dos got married in a ceremony held at bean's home ;)

now dont ask me which is female .

fbinst v 1.5 > with support of syslinux and grub4dos and ntldr side by side when usb starts booting ;)

check out :)

http://bbs.znpc.net/...566...=1&page=1

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 10:08 PM

http://bbs.znpc.net/...nt.php?aid=3348
this is the direct link to the GUI of FbinstTools

#42 maanu

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 09:43 AM

http://bbs.znpc.net/...nt.php?aid=3348
this is the direct link to the GUI of FbinstTools


just wondering how ll u understand it . ;) ;)

the last SEMI english gui from same author was 1.03 i guess . after that no english gui that i have seen.

may be a chinese guy can show us with screen shoots.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 01:34 PM

@maanu

If you follow this link

You have to download it from the original web-page (without registration).

http://bbs.znpc.net/.....;extra=page=1

then it is not too difficult read this at the bottom of the first post. ;)
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Meanwhile, the FbinstTool 1.501 version is just out. ;)

Unfortunely, it still seems with no full-english translation.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 10:14 AM

@ Icecube

Which BIOS versions are known to need a certain layout?


USB-ZIP, Phoenix BIOS.

------------------------------------------------------------
Phoenix BIOS (year 200X version) has:

1、Hide Or Expose MBR Farcall---Hide or Expose First Head if possible
it's readme says:
Hide or unhide the first head, if the device supports the appropriate command.
This command was developed for ZIP drives, It basically enables
fixed-disk-formatted media to appear like a fixed or removable disk at will.

2、fakechs proc
it's readme says:
solve ZIP 100/250 4 different toltal sector counts;
returns whether the device(UMSD) should be configured as fixed or removable, and
whether it supports partition hiding or unhiding.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I guess the other BIOS(AMD & AMI) should have the same fuctions such as phoenix.

Sorry:
My english is too bad to explain correctly & clearly; I can't post some contents
because of all known Reasons.

JL2 from wuyou.

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 04:22 PM

Hello,

I am trying to use fbinst, but I cannot load grldr nor ntldr as indicated. I tried most grldr versions available.

fbint version 1.5 build 1 (2009-06-20)

fbinst (hd1) load grldr
=> fbinst: error: invalid archive file

Is there a solution?

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 04:28 PM

fbinst (hd2) add grldr grldr

search forums , i remember i gave some details in some thread in same category with in topic for something , " menu.lst not load on usb " or something like that..

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 04:51 PM

search forums , i remember i gave some details in some thread in same category with in topic for something , " menu.lst not load on usb " or something like that..


Is this the "some" "something"? :lol:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=8177

http://tinyurl.com/lynhpe

;)

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 06:40 PM

In fbinst 1.5 changing way to add menu and new syntax

Google translated forum link

1. Copy files to device:
fbinst (hd1) add grldr c:\grldr 

fbinst (hd1) add ntldr c:\ntldr

2. Just try to create file fb.txt like :

default 0 

timeout 5 

text "Please choose menu" 

text "F1. grldr" 

menu F1 grldr grldr 

text "F2. ntldr" 

menu F2 grldr ntldr

3. and put to your device like:

fbinst (hd1) add-menu fb.cfg c:\fb.txt

where (hd1) maybe something another, see as:
fbinst --list


#49 maanu

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 07:02 PM

Is this the "some" "something"? :lol:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=8177

http://tinyurl.com/lynhpe

;)

jaclaz


i meant this one ;)

http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=8366 ( post number 4 )

ntldr or syslinux must be added to the extended memory . if using dual or triple boot.

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 07:51 PM

@kDn
Thank you.
Why :
text "F2. ntldr"
menu F2 grldr ntldr

instead of
text "F2. ntldr"
menu F2 ntldr ntldr
?

@maanu
Thank you too. I see your activities at the fbinst BBS. Since grub4dos can load syslinux, so adding either syslinux or ntldr to fbinst menu is not useful, isn't ? fbinst interest would be its more universal booting in place of normal methods, could you confirm?




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