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#1 MedEvil

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 02:09 PM

Bought this magazine today, just for the incredible thing they offered. An original VistaPE!
VistaPE1.jpg VistaPE2.jpg

Yes i checked! It's not WB with VistaPE project to build yourself. It's a prebuild VistaPE!
From Waik as it seems.

The first one, who finds M$ new Eula, that allows redistribution of WAIK and even changing of it's contents, wins a virtual beer from me! :cheers:

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 08:05 PM

The first one, who finds M$ new Eula, that allows redistribution of WAIK and even changing of it's contents, wins a virtual beer from me! :cheers:


And a real one from me!

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Out of curiosity, is it a "real" VistaPE (i.e. something pre-built with Winbuilder project/engine) or a PE 2.x re-named "VistaPE")?

Or something else, like the known "Recovery thingie", as well re-named to "VistaPE"?
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=22157
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=20993
http://www.911cd.net...o...15203&st=17

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 10:37 PM

Paragon provide a Vista PE Based recovery environment for Partition Manager / Drive Backup. Its just a matter of having a OEM licensing agreement with MS. Plus they also have this:

http://www.paragon-s...k-professional/

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:06 PM

Out of curiosity, is it a "real" VistaPE (i.e. something pre-built with Winbuilder project/engine) or a PE 2.x re-named "VistaPE")?

Yep, a real VistaPE with BSExplorer as desktop.
Spottet Hwpnp and that VistaPE config thingy too.

Loads a 90MB image into ram. The other 500MB of Lan drivers and software are directly on the CD.

For some reason a lot of portable apps are on the CD. Like OpenOffice and FF3.06 for instance.

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:55 AM

But isn't "VistaPE" the name of a wb project in the first place? ^_^

So why is this magazine claiming to be original? ^_^

A lawsuit would serve their "originality" right.. :good:

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 11:47 AM

Yep, a real VistaPE with BSExplorer as desktop.
Spottet Hwpnp and that VistaPE config thingy too.


Any mention of boot-land or Winbuilder? :good:

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 03:23 PM

Now I noticed some details a bit better, isn't "mit" in German the equivalent to "with"?

So they are probably being accurate even thought it is the first time that it is delivered as a finished ISO.

This service CD is based on VistaPE, the difference being that they are allowed to redistribute the ISO. (or at least I assume so)

Thought I'm not so sure about the legality of using this title: "Die Windows ServiceCD" because of Windows.

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 03:33 PM

Now I noticed some details a bit better, isn't "mit" in German the equivalent to "with"?

Let me give you a lesson in German:

Yes, you are right, 'mit' is equivalent to 'with'.

But 'mit' includes some different meanings:
  • Including
  • Using
Both make sence in this case.

BTW: The magazin is a 'Sub-Paper' of the BILD group of 'Axel Springer Verlag'.

In Germany there is the slang sentence:
'If anywhere a man has been murdered, BILD made the first interview with the dead man'

And bad people sometimes say that the paper has more employed attorneys than editors. :good:

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 04:40 PM

Thought I'm not so sure about the legality of using this title: "Die Windows ServiceCD" because of Windows.


AFAIK MS lost their battles on that:
http://news.zdnet.co...39161016,00.htm
http://news.zdnet.co...39155686,00.htm
http://www.eweek.com...demark-at-Risk/
http://www.out-law.com/page-4723
and simply bought the "name-change".

And before completely losing control on the word "windows", decided to draw some cash and put an end to the case, before a jury could say (as it is ^_^) that "windows" is a generic term, or at least it was in 1983/1985:
http://www.out-law.com/page-4283

Treademarks are "strange beasts", however I personally agree with this comment:
http://www.pcadvisor...cfm?newsid=9614

Chris Needham said on Thursday, 07 June 2007

My house had windows in it for nearly 100 years before Microsoft "stole" the name. Can I have some compensation as well?


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#10 Nuno Brito

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:10 PM

'If anywhere a man has been murdered, BILD made the first interview with the dead man'

Yes, I had the same impression when reading the sensationalist headlines.

Guess they've did all the homework to ensure no legal complications.

And their idea worked, MedEvil spent a few €'s from his pocket for the fun of getting a VistaPE that is free since the beginning.. :good:

I guess all that is left for the moment is to mention this press release on the respective page of winbuilder.net even thought it is the first time that a project of this kind (legally) eases the life of those who just need an ISO to burn for free without worries about clicking on complex buttons and such.

Can't we do the same and provide a ready made original with proper authorization? ^_^

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:36 PM

From the little German I can manage and fronm Google translate , here:
http://www.computerb...CD-4063084.html

Microsoft Vista PE selbst zusammenstellen
Falls Sie COMPUTER BILD ohne Heft-CD/DVD gekauft haben, finden Sie das Programm WAIK (Windows Automated Installation Kit) hier zum Download. Damit können Sie sich ein Vista PE zusammenstellen. Aber Achtung: Das Programm ist nicht ganz einfach!


Microsoft Vista PE itself together
If you COMPUTER BILD without Heft-CD/DVD purchased, you will find the program WAIK (W indows utomated A K I nstallation it) here for download. Thus you can create a Vista PE together. But beware: It's not easy!


And they give a link to the MS (German) WAIK:
http://www.microsoft...23-679830d629f2

Not only they are not saying anything about Winbuilder or boot-land :good:, but they also say that it is not easy to build one (which is unfortunately partially true). ^_^

besides, here:
http://www.computerb...09-4068085.html

they use:

Titelthema: Die Windows-Service-CD
Exklusiv in COMPUTER BILD: die Windows-Service-CD mit „Windows Vista PE“ und tollen Programmen.
Der Ratgeber zeigt, wie Sie damit Ihren PC in Schuss halten.

„Windows Vista PE“, which is not "VistaPE" and don't even mention the WAIK.

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:55 PM

Today I also spent the 3 € to buy one issue of the paper including the CD.

BTW: I spent more time and money driving around with my car and searching. The issue with the VistaPE CD is 6/2009, and since today 7/2009 is sold. But I found one!

I tested.

Booted smooth and not too slow. Saw my ATA disk partitions. :good:

And then I inserted one of these small HW pieces which are well known and usually used in case of emergencies (You know, I mean USB-stick):

No reaction! ^_^

Peter




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