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#26 Nuno Brito

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:35 PM

At winbuilder.exe level this is already possible.

New wb servers can be made with updated versions that override the ones that are found on the original servers.

It's just a matter of using the same project name on the root folder.

But so far, people talk about bugs or submit their code on the forums and the project maintainer uploads a better version.

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As a side note, I think amalux's idea could be put to good use if we applied this concept on the downloads section of boot-land.net

Imagine this.

.script developer uploads his script to the download section and a php script automatically adds this file on the updates.ini

Since we're talking about app scripts that work between projects, people could get them directly on their projects instead of manually browsing the download categories and this would allow a decentralized standalone system managed solely by the community.

Just an idea, with the newer wb it's possible to use a feature similar to ntfs junction to add folders outside the project root folder.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:25 AM

The theory is good, but look at our current situation.
WB074 is still the official WB and last stable.
Yet a bunch of api scripts is already not working with it anymore, because they require a api.script version that requires WB075.
Boy would i hate it, if all the applications scripts in NaughtyPE would get replaced by someone with versions that don't work in NaughtyPE! ;)

Let's face it, for the kind of stuff you suggest, we would need disciplin. Not a strong trait among the chaos loving boot-landers! :cheers:


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Posted 06 January 2009 - 08:41 AM

Since we're talking about app scripts that work between projects, people could get them directly on their projects instead of manually browsing the download categories and this would allow a decentralized standalone system managed solely by the community.

Sharing same concerns with Medevil and thinking the same with Nuno for a while before, i have an idea to test but waiting http://www.boot-land...?...ost&p=53898 :cheers:.


And a question,
does winbuilder.exe create updates.ini with command line support, sth like:
winbuilder.exe create LiveXP skipfileupload
or
winbuilder.exe readthis.ini
This would help a lot when making frequent updates to LiveXP.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:31 AM

Let's face it, for the kind of stuff you suggest, we would need disciplin. Not a strong trait among the chaos loving boot-landers!

eheh.. You're right! ;)

But you can never tell how chaos works so hope is never lost that such thing does appear one day.. :cheers:



does winbuilder.exe create updates.ini with command line support, sth like:

No it doesn't, but this seems a good feature request.

Please add it to the requests tracker: http://www.boot-land...;showproject=12

Thank you!

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 11:53 AM

There already exist a console program which does the job.

It scans the local projects folder and generates updates.ini like this:
;This file is automatically generated by psc program genUpdates

;Date: 2006-Dez-12 10:27:48

;Command Line&#58; genUpdates HoJoPE Standard /u -TWinBuilder_BetaKit -sWinBuilder_BetaKit /a /n /f<Version><Updates><md5><<Author>><<Description>> 



&#91;update&#93;

Fields=Version,Updates,md5,<Author>,<Description>

Archive=Folder

HoJoPE=Folder

Standard=Folder



&#91;update-Archive&#93;

!WBManager.Script=001,http&#58;//update.boot-land.net/WinBuilder_BetaKit,9819c852e843db1312099d8c4bb82422,&#34;Peter Schlang&#34;,&#34;Hide / Show unused scripts&#34;

...

...
The third line shows the command line.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 05:32 PM

Peter
where is genupdates (or genupdates.exe) ?!, i couldnt find with google-fu or boot-land-fu, last step is to fu-fu here :cheers: ;)

here "upload area" link not working
http://www.boot-land...mp;hl=genupdate
and neither here
http://www.boot-land...mp;hl=genupdate
or not in any script

ps: and also how to create index.html too as written here

shortly, i want to create index.html and updates.ini with a batch file !? anyway, or deathend :cheers: ?!

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 05:44 PM

There are a lot of changes in bootland server arrangement, and maybe something is lost.

I did a new upload to http://nativeex.boot.../genUpdates.exe

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 04:36 PM

Nuno

When going around download section i noticed this but http://carfan.boot-land.net/ not working :)

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 04:45 PM

Nuno

Also i noticed here post 4
that
link
http&#58;//boot-land.net/winbuilder/help/scrip...pplication.html
refers to
http&#58;//boot-land.net/winbuilder/help/scrip...pplication.html
:)

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 04:50 PM

Nuno

Also i noticed here post 4
that
link

http&#58;//boot-land.net/winbuilder/help/scrip...pplication.html
refers to
http&#58;//boot-land.net/winbuilder/help/scrip...pplication.html
:)

I cannot find the difference :)

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 05:08 PM

Peter, very easy

With giving example:
http://exec-se.de/Wi...arebone_075.zip


link:
http&#58;//exec-se.de/WinBuilder/Downloads/Nat...arebone_075.zip
means this:
http&#58;//exec-se.de/WinBuilder/Downloads/NativeEx_barebone_075.zip
which is correct :)

but at post 4
link:
http&#58;//boot-land.net/winbuilder/help/scrip...pplication.html
means this:
http&#58;//boot-land.net/winbuilder/help/scrip...pplication.html
which is false :)

I hope clear now :)

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 05:51 PM

Thanks! :)

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 09:52 AM

Just an update regarding the server performance.

Yesterday we hit a record number of page loads per day.

Our community site served over 20.000 pages on a single day for the first time since it was created.

Two months ago, it would be impossible to reach over 9000 page loads per day without seeing annoying error 500 messages constantly.

I still don't know what is the physical limit of the server resources. We no longer have RAM troubles since the server is using the swap partition as necessary and the CPU seems to be holding strong to all the php processing demand.

Still missing to move all forum attachments outside boot-land.net to allow sending compressed forum pages (much smaller size, less time to load and less wasted bandwidth), enhance the php processing with a good php cache and start doing some experiments with alternative web servers like nginx and similar (faster and lighter) alternatives to apache.


Osiris also seems a very interesting approach to allow a decentralized forum to be based on several servers at the same time but for the moment I'll be focusing mainly on improving the current performance to optimum levels while keeping all the extra features you see available today.

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This is what is planned for the next months. I don't have a time table defined at this moment since a few other things are also a priority but wanted to keep everyone up to date with these intentions so that I can also hear your feedback in case something else should be added/corrected.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 02:58 PM

I rhink we still have a few glitches.
http://www.boot-land...p?showtopic=244
Pictures are missing.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 03:13 PM

Hmm.. would be really nice to quit using the internal attachments of the forum and host these files externally with a more reliable service.

I don't know how to solve the bug you mention, I think it was caused by one of the software upgrades.

Sorry.. :)

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 03:25 PM

Nuno, if they're gone, they're gone. No big thing, it's an old topic anyway.
But since the topic is in the screenshots section and it holds no other pictures, it might should get deleted then. ?

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 04:03 PM

Jaclaz says that anything written at the forums either good or bad should be considered as "carved in stone" and I have to agree with him.

Even thought being invalid images, the text is still a part of the talks that took place at that time and may hold archaeological interest for the descenders of Jaclaz within the next centuries. (a long time generation of web finders since the internet big bang in 1998)

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 04:22 PM

Jaclaz says that anything written at the forums either good or bad should be considered as "carved in stone" and I have to agree with him.

I'm searching the stone 'x64' ... :)

Peter :)

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 04:26 PM

I don't have much time at the moment but there is still some hope for the lost posts on the x64 section.

I've been thinking that it would be possible to load the forum backup onto another database and query the database for all topics that were placed there at the time of the backup. (~mid december).

This might bring them back to stone.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 04:29 PM

I don't have much time at the moment but there is still some hope for the lost posts on the x64 section.

I've been thinking that it would be possible to load the forum backup onto another database and query the database for all topics that were placed there at the time of the backup. (~mid december).

This might bring them back to stone.

:)

Do not worry! No necessarity to hurry up!

As far as I remember there has not been really important stuff. It's for history only and can wait.

Peter :)

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 04:38 PM

Yes, not a priority for sure but nevertheless please "bump" this task once we get some extra time around here.

I'd also like to learn and see if this is possible for the cases in the future where one or two posts get deleted and we need to restore them in particular instead of restoring the whole database to an older snapshot.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 05:28 PM

Just an update message to keep members aware that the registration text displayed to new members has been modified.

Now it includes a direct link for the bugmenot website where they can recycle a previously created member account instead of creating new account just for the purpose of downloading files.

Also wrote a small note explaining that the "Hello world" section was not the proper place to talk about computer issues but rather be used instead to write a few lines about themselves as introduction.

To view the new text, you need to log out boot land and click on the register link that is displayed on the front page.

Hope this measure helps decrease the high number of members that register but never say nothing or explain to those that post on the wrong section to know what to do.. :)




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