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#1 JonF

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 01:26 PM

Yesterday I was working on a fairly recent Gateway notebook that woudln't boot. It had a SATA HD and an Intel 8280 1GBM ICH7-M AHCI SATA controller.

As soon as the desktop appeared, while the startup process was still running, I opened Explorer and noted that the hard disk was partitioned into C: and D:, and C: was jam-full (about 200 MB free). In the meantime hardware detection started.

I double-clicked C: to start looking for stuff I could delete. It was unavailable!

So I closed Explorer and waited for hardware detection to finish. Opened Explorer. No drive C: or D:!

I rebooted and canceled hardware detection. Then I could work with the hard disk.

Any ideas why hardware detection would delete hardware? And any ideas how to prevent this?

It so happens I will get my hands on this computer again this afternoon, so I will have a chance to try it with DaveXP's new driver script. But it's not my computer and I probably will never see it again after Monday evening. So experimentation is limited.

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 01:40 PM

well the problem can be a gernal one with the dirver pack:

The pack uses xp drivers and this results in drivers conflicting with other vista drivers already in the system. The loader loads ALL drivers for a certain hardware (which is bad as it might load the older xp driver even if a vista driver exists and was sucessfully loaded...) and it can be that initial drivers work and later loaded do not...this is something i am working on but it will tike quite some time...

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 01:41 PM

BTW: This is why I recommend to only include drivers that are really needed and not the complete pack...if you find a hardware that is not supported add it, but the pack adds too much...

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 01:49 PM

I sort of agree ... but the difficulty with that philosophy is predicting what drivers will be needed for a computer that you have never seen or heard of, that you are called on to repair tomorrow.

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 02:20 PM

no just make sure you only include drivers that do not already exist

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 03:15 PM

Any ideas why hardware detection would delete hardware? And any ideas how to prevent this?


Do you exclude volumes from the hardware detection ?

If you try to re-detect already mounted volumes they will disappear in explorer

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 03:46 PM

how can volumes be excluded? Can you give an example?

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 03:57 PM

Don't know much about VistaPe
only know how to exclude them when you use paragliders hwpnp.exe ?

HWPnP.exe +all -storage\volume

#9 Dave7

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 02:30 PM

In my case the hardware detection removes the CD drive.

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#10 thelegendarypig666

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 02:08 PM

In my case the hardware detection removes the CD drive.


On very many of my system it do removes USB drivers too, even the stick were VistaPE is booting from.




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