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#1 ravachol

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 02:19 PM

heelo,

i'm working on aero studio and I have question :

1- what is the difference between :
Bcdw.gmd
diskemu.gmd
isoemu.gmd

2- for boot from HDD
I have two HDD and a dual boot.
how to select the fisrt ? the second ? a normal boot with the dual boot interface ?
i think it was in the option : (0,0)+1 but .... ?

i read te tuto, i wath the video, all was explain except that ! the detail of each command

thank you per advance,

#2 Shirin Zaban

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 07:19 PM

HI ravachol

1.They are seperate programs to make multiboot CD/DVD's.for example BCDW (Boot CD wizard)
is one of my favorite programs to make multiboot CD or DVD.working with that is very easy and I never had problem by that.it

has enough helps to learn.

In Aero studio,all that 3 programs are embeded.
But any way there are many times that BCDW can load ISO and Aero Does not !!

I could not understand why.I tried may be 50 times but Aero has problem with some
programs.I am working hard to find the problem.

I think it is beter you first work by BCDW.(At least untill the time that some body find outthe problem.)


2.The Aero uses Grub0.97 for boot purpose,A nice manual for grub is in web ,download and
learn full commands from that.
For booting from hard disk,you can not load every kind of images from HDD.
take a look at my Tutor in:


http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=4489

shirin

#3 useronce

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 01:36 PM

heelo,

i'm working on aero studio and I have question :

1- what is the difference between :
Bcdw.gmd
diskemu.gmd
isoemu.gmd

2- for boot from HDD
I have two HDD and a dual boot.
how to select the fisrt ? the second ? a normal boot with the dual boot interface ?
i think it was in the option : (0,0)+1 but .... ?

i read te tuto, i wath the video, all was explain except that ! the detail of each command

thank you per advance,


here, the question 1:

for the 'iso' emulation: bcdw only works in cdrom, and isoemu works only harddisk. so, in the aerostudio env, the commands like:

bcdw (cd)/{path}/myiso.iso, isoemu (hdx,y)/{path}/myiso.iso.

at the same time, aero.sys also has an option: run (cd)/{path}/myiso.iso. so, at this time, 'run' = 'bcdw'.

here comes the notes:

* 'run' and 'isoemu' only support non-emu mode's iso file;
* 'bcdw' supports fdd/hdd emu mode's iso file - in my thought;
* all of them can directlly support real-mode emulation only.

and now the 'diskemu.gmd', i used 'run', we can see:

* run {path}/myiso.iso; ( see above )
* run {path]/myfdd.img; ( use syslinux 'memdisk.gz' internal )
* run {path}/myhdd.img; ( use syslinux 'memdisk.gz' internal )
* run {path}/bootsect.bin ( boot sector, or bootstrap program: will be all loaded and run at 0x0000:0x7c00 )
- so here we can use run ({path}/diskem1x.bin, the file from Bart's. ;-)



the second question:

just as shirin told us, aero.sys is grub 0.97 based, if you want load the prefer disk, just use:

chainloader (hd0,0) + 1 - 1st disk, 1st partition.
chainloader (hd1,0) + 1 - 2nd disk, 1st partition.



about new AeroStudio 3.0.8.0520:

i know the compaitbility of Aero.sys is not too good, so i've used grub4dos ( 2008-05-02 version ) as the base env. so, this new verion has been enhanced with these two functions, 'chainloader' & 'map':

chainloader {path}/ntldr
chainloader {path}/bootmgr
chainloader {path}/setupldr.bin
---
map {path}/myfdd.img (fd0); map -- hook; chainloader (fd0)+1; rootnoverify (fd0); boot;

;)

#4 Tonton_Glenn

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 10:09 PM

Hi all,

Useronce, many thanks again for ure release that a great new.

But i have some trouble for launching some iso based on syslinux with aero studio.

I want to integrate Ultimate Boot CD on my aero project but when i type :

bcdw (cd)/ubcd.iso

or

run (cd)/ubcd.iso

or

isoemu (cd)/ubcd.iso

...that doesn't work.


I have tried to decompress iso on a folder and tried to boot many files, this is the same issue.

Can u help me to see what is wrong in my method ?



And a second question :

You said that a new command is avaible as chainloader {path}/ntldr

That mean we can now launch a LiveXP since aero studio ??

And as :

chainloader (cd)/i386/setupldr.bin /ntldr

?

Is it possible to have a tutorial with couple of exemple about command we can use ?

Thank u

#5 Shirin Zaban

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 10:48 PM

Hi useronce

1.Thank you for new vertion
2.I have the same question too. when i try liveXP (Retogo),it works very well
but when using winbuilder livexp or hiren'sCD,or ultimate boot CD,they do not
work even after burning(an also they do not work from HDD)

May be it is better to say that hires'sCD and ultimate boot CD work very well ,when
using them by BCDW,so what is problem if Aero uses BCDW in itself?

3.Would you please write a tutorial just about using commands in Aero,ofcourse by
examples?
I realy tested this program more than 50 times,it is realy very good program,but Does not
act completly as programs that has inside itself.

4.most of the times when making ISO by this program,if the source of iso is more than about
100 M,it does not make iso and does not give any error message,so in 90% of tests i made,first i make iso just by small part of source(fore example IMAGE folder),then i open iso made by ultraiso and add other sources.

hope you will write a tutorial by examples.

thank you
shirin

#6 useronce

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Posted 28 May 2008 - 01:40 AM

Hi all,

Useronce, many thanks again for ure release that a great new.

But i have some trouble for launching some iso based on syslinux with aero studio.

I want to integrate Ultimate Boot CD on my aero project but when i type :

bcdw (cd)/ubcd.iso

or

run (cd)/ubcd.iso

or

isoemu (cd)/ubcd.iso

...that doesn't work.


I have tried to decompress iso on a folder and tried to boot many files, this is the same issue.

Can u help me to see what is wrong in my method ?



And a second question :

You said that a new command is avaible as chainloader {path}/ntldr

That mean we can now launch a LiveXP since aero studio ??

And as :

chainloader (cd)/i386/setupldr.bin /ntldr

?

Is it possible to have a tutorial with couple of exemple about command we can use ?

Thank u



thanks for yor attention to AeroStudio. ;-)

1. please show me the version or download url of your ubcd.iso, and let me check it in my own experience for any futher discussion on this iso.

2. the chainloader: this commands has been extended in Grub4DOS. if you want more details about it, please refer to grub4dos documents:

http://grub4dos.sour...T_startup_files

please note: aero.sys has only `map' and `chainloader' of grub4dos fully supported. other functions of grub4dos maybe missing or commented for program size reason. if you want other functions fo grub4dos, please use the aero command 'grub4dos' instead.

#7 useronce

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Posted 28 May 2008 - 01:49 AM

Hi useronce

1.Thank you for new vertion
2.I have the same question too. when i try liveXP (Retogo),it works very well
but when using winbuilder livexp or hiren'sCD,or ultimate boot CD,they do not
work even after burning(an also they do not work from HDD)

May be it is better to say that hires'sCD and ultimate boot CD work very well ,when
using them by BCDW,so what is problem if Aero uses BCDW in itself?

3.Would you please write a tutorial just about using commands in Aero,ofcourse by
examples?
I realy tested this program more than 50 times,it is realy very good program,but Does not
act completly as programs that has inside itself.

4.most of the times when making ISO by this program,if the source of iso is more than about
100 M,it does not make iso and does not give any error message,so in 90% of tests i made,first i make iso just by small part of source(fore example IMAGE folder),then i open iso made by ultraiso and add other sources.

hope you will write a tutorial by examples.

thank you
shirin



i'm so sorry sir. ;-) if i had time, i will add this help. and, if you have some question about the usage of commands, you can ask me here.

for the iso generating, i can give you an advice to check the reason: download a program named 'dbgview' from sysinternal. before you create this iso in aerostudio, you can run dbgview.exe. after it done, you can check the output of dbgview, and see some information in this processing. For my experience, the fails are always the extanse of 'airboot' directory in your 'src' dir.

wish this information will help you. ;)

#8 Tonton_Glenn

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Posted 28 May 2008 - 02:09 AM

Hi Useronce,

Thank for ure answer.

For Ultimate boot CD, u can found it here or for directly download here.

please use the aero command 'grub4dos' instead.


Yeah, i have try to learn about that but im a poor noob in command and other and im agree with shirin, if u have time, a tutorial will be welcome ;) (i think no many people know aero studio as u or its hard to find them).


I wait ure answer for Ultimate boot CD and many thank for ure great work :thumbup:

#9 useronce

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 06:08 AM

Hi Useronce,

Thank for ure answer.

For Ultimate boot CD, u can found it here or for directly download here.



Yeah, i have try to learn about that but im a poor noob in command and other and im agree with shirin, if u have time, a tutorial will be welcome ;) (i think no many people know aero studio as u or its hard to find them).


I wait ure answer for Ultimate boot CD and many thank for ure great work :thumbup:


i've downloaded and tried the UBCD iso. this iso is a non-emu mode's bootable image. and i tried 'isoemu' on it, yes, some items booting ok, others are failed.

the 'run' command is mis-introduced: it cannot be used to emulate an iso file. ;-) i'm sorry.




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