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[binarytemplepilot]

Hello, while I am not new to working with various OSs I am rather new to Vista and particularly to VistaPE. I worked with BartPE quite a bit and was extremely pleased to find that VistaPE exists and found those on the supporting site to be informative patient and insightful. The laptop I am using is a Dell Precision M6300 and the Vista Business OS while still operational has become somewhat unstable and corrupted. I get various errors on a regular basis and this could be the reason for my problem but wanted to give you nice people a try at it before I throw in the towel and run BackUpMyPC or something equally unreliable.

The laptop OS will therefore need to be restored and I would like to do a Ghost8 image of which I have the files prior to the restore if possible. The BartPE disk will boot but will not see the new Vista NTFS partition so it was out. My first attempt to create a VistaPE image yielded problems with the UAC but with a search of your excellent site I found the solution with TweakUAC quickly and corrected it.

I soon found a new problem however that has not been quite so easy to dispatch. When I run the VistaPE compilation program I get the two errors:
FileCopy - Failed to copy [C:\VISTA_32_BUSINESS\bootmgr] to: [%BaseDir%\Target\VistaPE\BOOTMGR]
FileCopy - Failed to copy [%BaseDir%\Target\VistaPE\bootmgr] to: [%BaseDir%\Target\VistaPE\boot.tmp\bootmgr]
The error messages seem to be a dulicate of one another but with slightly different verbage which seemed odd but perhaps it tried to get the file more than once. The source files I am using for VISTA are from the Dell install disk and have been placed on the hard drive as your site contributors have suggested. I have examined the source files in the path indicated and did not find "bootmgr" file it indicates there.

I attempted to upload my log but received the error "Upload failed. You are not permitted to upload this type of file." I will be happy to provide any requested information promptly. Sorry for the length of the post but it is my intent to be complete. Thank you in advance for your time.

[amalux]

Hello, while I am not new to working with various OSs I am rather new to Vista and particularly to VistaPE. I worked with BartPE quite a bit and was extremely pleased to find that VistaPE exists and found those on the supporting site to be informative patient and insightful. The laptop I am using is a Dell Precision M6300 and the Vista Business OS while still operational has become somewhat unstable and corrupted. I get various errors on a regular basis and this could be the reason for my problem but wanted to give you nice people a try at it before I throw in the towel and run BackUpMyPC or something equally unreliable.

The laptop OS will therefore need to be restored and I would like to do a Ghost8 image of which I have the files prior to the restore if possible. The BartPE disk will boot but will not see the new Vista NTFS partition so it was out. My first attempt to create a VistaPE image yielded problems with the UAC but with a search of your excellent site I found the solution with TweakUAC quickly and corrected it.

I soon found a new problem however that has not been quite so easy to dispatch. When I run the VistaPE compilation program I get the two errors:
FileCopy - Failed to copy [C:\VISTA_32_BUSINESS\bootmgr] to: [%BaseDir%\Target\VistaPE\BOOTMGR]
FileCopy - Failed to copy [%BaseDir%\Target\VistaPE\bootmgr] to: [%BaseDir%\Target\VistaPE\boot.tmp\bootmgr]
The error messages seem to be a dulicate of one another but with slightly different verbage which seemed odd but perhaps it tried to get the file more than once. The source files I am using for VISTA are from the Dell install disk and have been placed on the hard drive as your site contributors have suggested. I have examined the source files in the path indicated and did not find "bootmgr" file it indicates there.

I attempted to upload my log but received the error "Upload failed. You are not permitted to upload this type of file." I will be happy to provide any requested information promptly. Sorry for the length of the post but it is my intent to be complete. Thank you in advance for your time.

binarytemplepilot,

First, welcome to the forum!

I'm not an expert on VistaPE, prefer LiveXP myself, but these types of errors (those errors aren't duplicates, but are related) are usually easy to remedy with a bit of investigation into the log. You need to zip up the log in an archive with 7-Zip (or whatever you prefer) before uploading. Then we can look at it and get a better idea what's going on. BTW, I use LiveXP with Ghost8 to backup/restore Vista with no trouble at all; you can even keep the backup image files on the same CD/DVD! I've thrown together a little tutorial here if you'de like to give it a spin

[allanf]

Hi binarytemplepilot,

The first error is because the file is not in the source... strange.

The second error is because the file is not where it should have been copied to when the first error occured.

I'm no expert on VistaPE or boot-management, but the second error may occur when one of VistaPE's configuration files has 'Standard' or 'Boot Manager' (or the like) selected in its Winbuilder Inteface.

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EDIT: It is highly likely that bootmgr is required regardless of what is selected as the boot-manager. So my suggestion below is not very well founded. I refer to the VistaPE page:
http://vistape.net/v...e-api.html#boot

Description for VistaPE Booting Process
1. start boot manager (Grub4Dos, IsoLinux, BCDW, CD Shell or other) and load bootmgr (standard Windows Vista boot manager)...

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Have you tried selecting grub4dos as the boot-manager? I'm not sure which VistaPE configuration file, so you may need to click through the list of VistaPE scripts in Winbuilder's Scripts-Tree (on the left) until you find the one that gives an option to select the boot-manager.

I do not know whether or not that might eradicate the second error or even provide a solution. Perhaps, try to boot VistaPE in a Virtual Machine to see what happens.

BTW, it seems starnge that bootmgr is not in the root of the Dell Install Disk. I wonder how it boots? Another story perhaps.

Regards

[paraglider]

Bootmgr is in the root of my Vista install DVD. When you copied it to your hard drive did you copy the files from the root of the DVD?

[paraglider]

I also have no problems accessing Vista NTFS drives from Bartpe. If you disable UAC you are removing alot of the protection that Vista provides. Both Bartpe pebuilder and winbuilder work correctly if you run the exe elevated - either set 'Run as administrator' in the file properties or right click on the file and choose 'Run As administrator'.

[Brito]

Maybe this is due to the lack of SATA drivers that keep the disk from being showed on a XP based PE?

Just an idea - LiveXP has SATA driverpacks built in by default, just tried galapo's recent addon to use driverpacks and it is working very well.

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The source files I am using for VISTA are from the Dell install disk and have been placed on the hard drive as your site contributors have suggested. I have examined the source files in the path indicated and did not find "bootmgr" file it indicates there.

Guess that this is what you need right now.

Use the one that is usually placed on the C:\ drive - maybe it works as expected.

[binarytemplepilot]

binarytemplepilot,

First, welcome to the forum!

I'm not an expert on VistaPE, prefer LiveXP myself, but these types of errors (those errors aren't duplicates, but are related) are usually easy to remedy with a bit of investigation into the log. You need to zip up the log in an archive with 7-Zip (or whatever you prefer) before uploading. Then we can look at it and get a better idea what's going on. BTW, I use LiveXP with Ghost8 to backup/restore Vista with no trouble at all; you can even keep the backup image files on the same CD/DVD! I've thrown together a little tutorial here if you'de like to give it a spin

Thank you Amalux for your kind words of welcome and details in response to my query. It seems there are some very nice people here and I look forward to meeting all of you. I attached a copy of the log file as requested using the downloaded program that you linked. I also have looked at the detailed instructions you kindly provided on LiveXP but little more than browse at this point. I will be looking it over in more detail as soon as time allows.

Please let me know if you need additional details as I am only too happy to comply. Thank you again and have a wonderful day.

Attached Files

•  WinBuilder__074____Project_log_dated_from_4_8_2008.7z   60.37KB   344 downloads

[amalux]

Thank you Amalux for your kind words of welcome and details in response to my query. It seems there are some very nice people here and I look forward to meeting all of you. I attached a copy of the log file as requested using the downloaded program that you linked. I also have looked at the detailed instructions you kindly provided on LiveXP but little more than browse at this point. I will be looking it over in more detail as soon as time allows.

Please let me know if you need additional details as I am only too happy to comply. Thank you again and have a wonderful day.

binarytemplepilot,

Ok, looked through your log (saved as .mht, not .html ) The only issue I find is the missing bootmgr at the root of your CD (the second error goes away with this one) - Please confirm your source looks like this:

[binarytemplepilot]

Hi binarytemplepilot,

The first error is because the file is not in the source... strange.

The second error is because the file is not where it should have been copied to when the first error occured.

I'm no expert on VistaPE or boot-management, but the second error may occur when one of VistaPE's configuration files has 'Standard' or 'Boot Manager' (or the like) selected in its Winbuilder Inteface.

....................................
EDIT: It is highly likely that bootmgr is required regardless of what is selected as the boot-manager. So my suggestion below is not very well founded. I refer to the VistaPE page:
http://vistape.net/v...e-api.html#boot


.....................................

Have you tried selecting grub4dos as the boot-manager? I'm not sure which VistaPE configuration file, so you may need to click through the list of VistaPE scripts in Winbuilder's Scripts-Tree (on the left) until you find the one that gives an option to select the boot-manager.

I do not know whether or not that might eradicate the second error or even provide a solution. Perhaps, try to boot VistaPE in a Virtual Machine to see what happens.

BTW, it seems starnge that bootmgr is not in the root of the Dell Install Disk. I wonder how it boots? Another story perhaps.

Regards

Hello Allenf and thank you for your kind and very pertinent suggestions. As I look at the Main Configuration screen I see that Grub4DOS is the bootloader selected; I examined the logs and the Grub4DOS files did not copy when the boomgr was not copied. Then perhaps I will experiment but in any case you have given me some food for thought and I thank you

[binarytemplepilot]

Bootmgr is in the root of my Vista install DVD. When you copied it to your hard drive did you copy the files from the root of the DVD?

Thank you Paraglider, I had looked at the CD but for some unknown reason the file just did not register and there it was right in the root. I looked in the root prevoiusly but it was in the copied files and not the origional CD and obviously did not copy for some reasone. Well Done.

[binarytemplepilot]

binarytemplepilot,

Ok, looked through your log (saved as .mht, not .html ) The only issue I find is the missing bootmgr at the root of your CD (the second error goes away with this one) - Please confirm your source looks like this:

Oops! soory for the format issue I just accepted the defaults for the 7z457 when I created it. You are correct ss the issue was that the files destination did not receive the bootmgr file during the copy and that was the issue. I reviewed the origional disk against the copied version I was using as a source and the disk had it and the source did not.

You are all awesome and I am rather embarrassed as to my lack of meticulousness as it is most uncharacteristic of my ability and technique. Sorry for the goose chase. Thanks again.

[allanf]

... I am rather embarrassed ...

There is more than one red face here. My User Name may be blue (I can develop a script ... a bit), but I know little else. Thank you for using the term 'bootloader'. The config script in VistaPE uses the term 'Boot Manager' in the option to select Grub4Dos, BCDW, IsoLinux, etc. I mistakenly assumed that 'bootmgr' (... surely it is an MS abbreviation for 'boot manager'!...) would have been an option in this category.... I'll stop here before I get more egg on my face....
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Thanks