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#1 Dietmar

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 12:06 AM

Hi all,

here is the promised XP SP1, which files can simple be copied on a NTFS compressed partition that is set activ. Uncompress only ntldr after that. Voila :cheers: .
It contains only original XP SP1 files and a renamed minlogon to winlogon from Windows Embedded.
The whole registry is made by hand. >It is the full commandline cmd.exe, not based on WinPE, just full XP. I never saw something like before. Nice to hear from you

Dietmar

PS: At the moment, only IDE harddisks are supported with Fat, Fat32 and NTFS.
The boottime is 1 second :cheers: .
But this is a nice project, to build XP from single pieces, so I will integrate network, SATA and so on.

Hi all,
now it works also on SATA harddisks. It works on any compi... :cheers: .

Nice to hear from you,
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Edited by jaclaz, 03 January 2008 - 04:03 PM.
Removed attachment (see my post below)

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 08:09 AM

here is the promised XP SP1, which files can simple be copied on a NTFS compressed partition that is set activ. Uncompress only ntldr after that. Voila


Thanks! Sounds good.

I had a question(s)
Primary Partion. right?


When you say that it can be copied to an NTFS compressed Parttion. Is that Mandatory or is it a recommendation. Also how would you create a compressed Partition.

Howt do you go by doing the Uncompress Ntldr.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 04:21 PM

I find this to be a GREAT FIND!
:cheers:
:cheers:

Unfortunately :cheers: posting here the complete set of files may be against Forum Rules, thus I removed Dietmar's original attachment and I am posting here the core of it (the redistributable part):

attached filelist.7z is a dir of the original Dietmar's Setup.
attached config.7z is the contents of the \Windows\System32\config directory (a.k.a. the Registry)

BOOT.INI can be as follows:
[boot loader]

timeout=10

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP1 Dietmar's CLI"

You'll have to get your own Windows XP SP1 files + the minlogon.exe (from Windows XP Embedded).

I have tried to rebuild manually and tested it in Qemu (+Qemu Manager) successfully, but a further check by another user to make sure I didn't "cheat" somehow is welcome.

If anyone has some spare time, it would be nice if he could provide (preferably in the form of a batch file or of a Winbuilder .script) an automated way to build the directory structure and copy to it files from source \I386.

:cheers:

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 06:58 PM

I put together a batch file from Jaclaz's filelist, it doesnt show right in the codebox on this forum, its over at the 911cd forums Dietmar's topic about this.


http://www.911cd.net...&...st&p=140543

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 07:03 PM

Thanks! Sounds good.

I had a question(s)
Primary Partion. right?


When you say that it can be copied to an NTFS compressed Parttion. Is that Mandatory or is it a recommendation. Also how would you create a compressed Partition.

Howt do you go by doing the Uncompress Ntldr.


1) Yes, Primary Partition
2) No, it should work on FAT as well (untested) but you will probably need more space, :cheers: (actually cannot say, on such small volumes NTFS filesystem structures are rather BIG)
3) Select NTLDR -> Right Click -> Properties -> Advanced -> Untick "Compression"

Find attached a RAW 16 Mb image already formatted as NTFS Compressed and containing the Registry and Directory structure, suitable for QEMU.

To mount the image with IMDISK use an offset of 63 blocks.

NOTE:
using QEMU the screen tries to resize itself a few times during booting, to avoid this you can load the SYSTEM hive (in the example into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE with name "testgo") and change the entries 1024 and 768 in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\testgo\ControlSet001\Hardware Profiles\0001\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\VIDEO\{23A77BF7-ED96-40EC-AF06-9B1F4867732A}\0000
into 640 and 480


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Posted 03 January 2008 - 07:30 PM

I put together a batch file from Jaclaz's filelist, it doesnt show right in the codebox on this forum, its over at the 911cd forums Dietmar's topic about this.


http://www.911cd.net...&...st&p=140543


Good work dennis123123,
I am attaching latest version as D123_XP.cmd :cheers:

(the problems in the early version - which I was checking - were only pidgen.dll and ksecdd.sys right? )

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 07:38 PM

Good work dennis123123,
I am attaching latest version as D123_XP.cmd :cheers:

(the problems in the early version - which I was checking - were only pidgen.dll and ksecdd.sys right? )

jaclaz



Yes I think so :cheers:

The working code is the current version at 911cd, and if it is the same, then also the one Jaclaz has kindly attatched :cheers:

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 07:49 PM

Yep, just tested the attached batch file with BOTH XP SP1 and XP 2600 (SP0) and it works allright! :cheers:

Any taker for XP SP2 ?
And for Server 2003 ?
(though most probably there are REASONS why Dietmar used SP1) :cheers:

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 09:34 PM

Yep, just tested the attached batch file with BOTH XP SP1 and XP 2600 (SP0) and it works allright! :cheers:

Any taker for XP SP2 ?
And for Server 2003 ?
(though most probably there are REASONS why Dietmar used SP1) :cheers:

jaclaz


I'm already thinking about 'cmd' as third option of nativeEx_BSOR.
Because Dietmar's file list does not use any shell32.dll, I think, it's possible.

Peter :cheers:

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:44 PM

Hi jaclaz,

to integrate diskpart.exe in my mini XP isnt an easy task.

You have to add the following files:

diskpart.exe
dmadmin.exe

cabinet.dll
clusapi.dll
dmintf.dll
dmserver.dll
dmutil.dll
ole32.dll
oleaut32.dll
osuninst.dll
setupapi.dll
shlwapi.dll

The Registry needs 3 parts, I tested them, they work.


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AppID]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AppID\dmadmin.exe]
"AppID"="{4FB6BB00-3347-11d0-B40A-00AA005FF586}"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AppID\{4FB6BB00-3347-11d0-B40A-00AA005FF586}]
@="Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service"
"LocalService"="dmadmin"






Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmadmin]
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,64,\
00,6d,00,61,00,64,00,6d,00,69,00,6e,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,2f,00,\
63,00,6f,00,6d,00,00,00
"Start"=dword:00000003
"DependOnService"=hex(7):52,00,70,00,63,00,53,00,73,00,00,00,50,00,6c,00,75,00,\
67,00,50,00,6c,00,61,00,79,00,00,00,44,00,6d,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,\
00,72,00,00,00,00,00
"Type"=dword:00000020
"Description"="Configures hard disk drives and volumes. The service only runs for configuration processes and then stops."
"DisplayName"="Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service"
"ObjectName"="LocalSystem"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmadmin\Enum]
"Count"=dword:00000001
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001
"0"="Root\\LEGACY_DMADMIN\\0000"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmadmin\Parameters]
"EnableDynamicConversionFor1394"=dword:00000000

"ServiceParameters"="/com"





Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmserver]
"DependOnService"=hex(7):52,00,70,00,63,00,53,00,73,00,00,00,50,00,6c,00,75,00,\
67,00,50,00,6c,00,61,00,79,00,00,00,00,00
"ImagePath"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,\
00,76,00,63,00,68,00,6f,00,73,00,74,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,2d,00,\
6b,00,20,00,6e,00,65,00,74,00,73,00,76,00,63,00,73,00,00,00
"DisplayName"="Logical Disk Manager"
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"Type"=dword:00000020
"Start"=dword:00000002
"ObjectName"="LocalSystem"
"Description"="Detects and monitors new hard disk drives and sends disk volume information to Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service for configuration. If this service is stopped, dynamic disk status and configuration information may become out of date. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start."

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmserver\Enum]
"Count"=dword:00000001
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001
"0"="Root\\LEGACY_DMSERVER\\0000"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmserver\Parameters]
"ServiceDll"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,\
00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,\
64,00,6d,00,73,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,00,\
00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmserver\Security]
"Security"=hex:01,00,14,80,90,00,00,00,9c,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,30,00,00,00,02,\
00,1c,00,01,00,00,00,02,80,14,00,ff,01,0f,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,\
00,00,02,00,60,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,8d,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,\
05,0b,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,9d,01,02,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,\
23,02,00,00,00,00,18,00,ff,01,0f,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,20,\
02,00,00,00,00,14,00,fd,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00,01,01,\
00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00


But you have to build a Mini XP to make diskpart work also with

dllhost.exe
lsass.exe
regsvr32.exe
rundll32.exe
services.exe
svchost.exe

and their whole dependencies. This makes my Mini XP larger to 48 MB (uncompressed).
Today I build such a Mini XP by hand, and diskpart.exe works with the 3 registry entries above.

Nice to hear from you
Dietmar

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 08:12 PM

@Dietmar
Thanks, I would probably never have gotten there. :cheers:

I'll recheck the size of the needed files, but if it gets to 48 Mb I think it is too much to have the functionality of diskpart, we may need another app. :cheers:

@All
To add FORMAT.COM to the build you need:
format.com
ulib.dll
ifsutil.dll
cfgmgr32.dll
setupapi.dll
(still to be thoroughly checked)

Though dramatically a smaller addition than the above, some 1,3 Mb uncompressed, I still think we may start googling for some alternative.

:cheers:

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 01:40 PM

The tbosdt.exe from the newish Terabyte TBOS:
http://www.boot-land...?...c=3722&st=0

Appears to be working in the reduced environent :cheers:, too bad is only a TRIAL. :cheers:

The GOOD news are that MBRwizard (version 2.00 beta):
http://mbrwizard.com/download.shtml
appears to be working as well. :cheers:

Even BETTER news are that DN /2, the Open Source evolution of Ritlabs Dos Navigator appears to work well in this! :cheers:

Here:
http://www.dnosp.com/
http://www.dnosp.com/lite/
http://www.dnosp.com...n2/dnw32b16.rar

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 01:06 AM

Hi all,

after one day of hard work, I succeed to implement diskpart.exe in a Mini XP SP1 with a size of 19MB.
Therefore, the registry is new build :cheers: , oh my...
And still there is no use of shell32.dll .

Nice to hear from you
Dietmar

PS: Tomorrow I give you the new config Folder and the file list, but now I am too tired.

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 04:47 AM

Can some create the list thing into a Script project.

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 10:19 AM

Hi all,

after one day of hard work, I succeed to implement diskpart.exe in a Mini XP SP1 with a size of 19MB.
Therefore, the registry is new build :cheers: , oh my...
And still there is no use of shell32.dll .


GOOD news :cheers:

@Dietmar
By the way, I have seen that a few very simple windowed apps do work in this environment, but it lacks (at least in Qemu) mouse support, though some of the Registry entries for mouse are actually present in the Registry.

I had a (quick) look if I could find what was missing, but ended up empty handed.

In due time, can you have a look at this?

@The Hive
I can confirm that it works allright on a FAT filesystem, I added these entries:
(see ilko's post below)

for CDFS and FAT, just to be on the safe side, but cannot say if they are actually needed.
EDIT: confirmed to be working

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 05:40 PM

@Dietmar
By the way, I have seen that a few very simple windowed apps do work in this environment, but it lacks (at least in Qemu) mouse support, though some of the Registry entries for mouse are actually present in the Registry.

I had a (quick) look if I could find what was missing, but ended up empty handed.

In due time, can you have a look at this?


Nevermind, it was a stupid typo, now mouse is working :cheers::
1) Add mouclass.sys to \Windows\System32\Drivers
2) Merge this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\gotest\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4D36E96F-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]

"UpperFilters"=hex(7):6d,6f,75,63,6c,61,73,73,00,00

@="Mouse"



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\gotest\ControlSet001\Services\Mouclass]

"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001

"Group"="Pointer Class"

"Start"=dword:00000003

"Tag"=dword:00000001

"Type"=dword:00000001

"DisplayName"="Driver classe mouse"

"ImagePath"="System32\\DRIVERS\\mouclass.sys"



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\gotest\ControlSet001\Services\Mouclass\Enum]

"0"="Root\\*PNP0F03\\1_0_21_0_31_0"

"Count"=dword:00000001

"NextInstance"=dword:00000001



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\gotest\ControlSet001\Services\Mouclass\Parameters]

"ConnectMultiplePorts"=dword:00000000

"MaximumPortsServiced"=dword:00000003

"MouseDataQueueSize"=dword:00000064

"PointerDeviceBaseName"="PointerClass"

"ConnectMultiplePortsChanged"=dword:00000001

"ConnectMultiplePortsUpgraded"=dword:00000001

:cheers:

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 11:54 PM

Hi all,

here comes the Mini XP SP1 with 19 MB NTFS compressed with working diskpart.exe.

So, here comes the registry and the full filelist of that Mini XP, thanks aeroxp :cheers:

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 12:10 AM

Short List Format:
dir [drive:][path] /w /s>C:\filelist.txt
Replace Drive and path with your path.

Example of Syntax:
dir C:\xpcli /w /s>C:\filelist.txt

_________________

Long List Format:
dir [drive:][path] /s>C:\filelist.txt
Replace Drive and path with your path.

Example of Syntax:
dir C:\xpcli /s>C:\filelist.txt


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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:07 AM

Dietmar, great work :cheers:


@all-
This is working for me to have access to CDROM and FAT, tested with XP SP2 in VirtualBox, launched from FAT and NTFS, having 2 partitions (FAT and NTFS) and a CDROM:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_CDFS]

"NextInstance"=dword:00000001



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_CDFS\0000]

"Service"="cdfs"

"Legacy"=dword:00000001

"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000020

"Class"="LegacyDriver"

"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"

"DeviceDesc"="cdfs"



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FASTFAT]

"NextInstance"=dword:00000001



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FASTFAT\0000]

"Service"="fastfat"

"Legacy"=dword:00000001

"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000020

"Class"="LegacyDriver"

"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"

"DeviceDesc"="fastfat"



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Fastfat]

"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001

"Group"="Boot file system"

"Start"=dword:00000000

"Type"=dword:00000002



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\cdrom]

"Type"=dword:00000001

"Start"=dword:00000000

"ImagePath"="system32\\drivers\\cdrom.sys"

"Group"="SCSI CDROM Class"

"Tag"=dword:00000002



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\cdfs]

"Type"=dword:00000002

"Start"=dword:00000000

"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001

"Group"="File system"

"ImagePath"="system32\\drivers\\cdfs.sys"

Don't forget to copy cdrom.sys and cdfs.sys to \system32\drivers.

Format.com and chkdsk still not working, copied autochk.exe, ulib.dll, ifsutil.dll, cfgmgr32.dll and setupapi.dll, but getting "chkdsk/format is not available for fat/ntfs drives". Any ideas what else it needs? If I launch these 2 from the CDROM with PE on it, both work.

edit: typo corrected- ImagePath in CDFS service.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 07:54 AM

@Dietmar and aeroxp
GOOD work, as always :cheers:, will test later.

@ilko_t
glad to see you are in the game. :cheers:

Once added the mouse support, I got EDXOR to work:
http://members.ozema...eware/edxor.htm
Make a dir \edxor and put in it Edxor.exe AND the riched32.dll contained in edxorfix.exe

Add these .dlls (again list to be fully checked) LIST CHECKED:
COMCTL32.DLL
COMDLG32.DLL
OLE32.DLL
OLEAUT32.DLL
RICHED20.DLL
SHELL32.DLL
SHLWAPI.DLL

EDIT: Since the use of SHELL32.DLL, we might later find an editor without this requirement.


Type edxor in the command prompt.

Now that the system is somewhat windowed, add to the build CONSOLE.DLL.

Reboot, and you should be able to, once having started edxor, to right click on the minimized CMD.EXE window and set it up as "windowed" as opposed to "Full Screen".

Starting to fiddle with BBLEAN... :cheers:

Adding a screenshot, before our friend The Hive asks for it. :cheers:

:cheers:

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 06:58 PM

Adding a screenshot, before our friend The Hive asks for it. :cheers:

:cheers:

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:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 07:06 PM

EDIT: Since the use of SHELL32.DLL, we might later find an editor without this requirement.

What about using shell32.dll by FreeDOS? It's very much smaller.
(Compare PicoXP or the nativeEX_barebone cmdline version)

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 10:34 PM

What about using shell32.dll by FreeDOS? It's very much smaller.
(Compare PicoXP or the nativeEX_barebone cmdline version)

Peter


Yep, where is the downloadable file? :cheers:

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 05:26 PM

Yep, where is the downloadable file? unsure.gif

Looks like that you agree: Hard to find! It is in this link, but:
It is hidden in a downloadable ISO, and you find it in this ISO as \FDOS\BIN\SHELL32.DLL (3 kB size).

[BTW]
I thought that you are the Finder :cheers:
... we decrease the bonus points of the candidate by 1 ... :cheers:
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An easier way: Freedos32's SHELL32.DLL is attached to nativeEx_Core\Basic\Build\6 - Freedos32-Resources.Script :cheers:

[BTW]
An expert Finder should have found this, too :cheers:
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[BTW]
I today needed less than half an hour to find SHELL32.DLL at the site.
... we increase the bonus points of the candidate by 1 ... :cheers:
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 08:48 PM

Looks like that you agree: Hard to find! It is in this link, but:
It is hidden in a downloadable ISO, and you find it in this ISO as \FDOS\BIN\SHELL32.DLL (3 kB size).


Well, you gave a link to the FreeDOS-32 site, the question was more a rhetorical one, it took me all of five seconds (Italian ones, of course :cheers:) to find these pages:
http://updates.boot-...esources.Script
http://update.boot-l...esources.Script
And of course this one:
http://updates.boot-land.net/067/

Use dll files from the FreeDos32 project wich will replace the original big sized versions - althougth these files are compatible they will remove all graphical support to your build, only command line based apps will work.

...so my guess is that it won't be useful to Run Edxor, which is a GUI app :cheers:

So you lose 1 Italian point for mis-linking and another Italian point for mis-representing the .dll, which rounds up to:
-2 x 1 x 2 x half-a-dozen = -24 German points :cheers:

:cheers:

....but you won elsewhere:
http://www.boot-land...?...=3733&st=24

:cheers:

jaclaz




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