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#1 proton

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 12:08 AM

Hello all,

Use Thinstall to make any application big / small into a single exe with portablity.

1.A Thinstalled application will be a single .exe file(All the required .dll,.ocx,.tlb,.dat,.ini,etc are packed inside a single .exe file)
2.It uses a virtual file and registry system so that it will not write to the machine's registry or filesystem on which it runs.
3.The thinstalled application still finds everthing in its place as it expects even though the folder / registry entry may not be available on the machine it is running on.

Google for Thinstall.....

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#2 Galapo

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 01:08 AM

Of course, you are right. Thinstall packages everything the program requires. I trialled thinstall at work a while back and it is very good.

Only proplem is it costs thousands of dollars -- US dollars.

It's out of my league therefore so is not really a viable option.

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#3 was_jaclaz

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 10:30 AM

Yep,
cannot see the scope of initial post:
1) it is not "news" as anyone here knows about Thinstall
2) it has nothing connected with Winbuilder
3) I hope it is not some kind of advertisement for a Commercial software :loleverybody:

proton,
can you please explain the reason for this post and detail the message (if any) you wanted to convey with it?

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#4 proton

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 12:51 PM

Yep,
cannot see the scope of initial post:
1) it is not "news" as anyone here knows about Thinstall
2) it has nothing connected with Winbuilder
3) I hope it is not some kind of advertisement for a Commercial software :loleverybody:

proton,
can you please explain the reason for this post and detail the message (if any) you wanted to convey with it?

jaclaz


Hello Mr.Jaclaz,

1.Sorry i thought many of us may not be knowing about it.Since i came to know about it very recently
So i thought i should let all know it.

2.Since if we boot using a winbuilder cd then many of the softwares just don't work just because they do not see all the settings & files.So if we thinstall it to a single package then we could run it under winbuilder.I have been able to successfully run many applications which failed to before thinstalling.

3.I am not associated in any way with Thinstall nor i try to promote it.So there is no intention of commercial ad'.

And i please request the moderators to remove this if they feel it is an ad' or it is of no use to anyone.


Thanks

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#5 MedEvil

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 01:21 PM

2.Since if we boot using a winbuilder cd then many of the softwares just don't work just because they do not see all the settings & files.So if we thinstall it to a single package then we could run it under winbuilder.I have been able to successfully run many applications which failed to before thinstalling.

The fact that you can't get certain software to work in Wb has nothing to do with WB, but that you've seen to still lack some of the skills needed for the more complicated programs.
The only advantage of thinstall is that it captures everything automaticly, while with a script you have to do it yourself. That's also why the quality of scripts varies widely, depending on the skills, the developer had at the time of creation.

:loleverybody:

#6 was_jaclaz

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 04:59 PM

@proton

OK, no prob, mate. :loleverybody:

Nonetheless, the cost of a thinstall license for "software developer":
http://www.thinstall...es/purchase.php
appearing to be $4,995 + a distribution fee per copy, puts it IMNSHO outside the "reach" of any of the members of this board.

As I see it, it is just like I would post something like:

Does your car sometimes does not start in cold mornings?
Does your steering wheel feel a bit wobbly on windy roads?
Use an Aston Martin Vanquish S:
http://www.astonmart...ecars/vanquishs


(though it could be very sound advice, it is not very practical/useful) :w00t:

:w00t:

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#7 Oleg_II

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 06:06 AM

Anybody wants some free downloads? :w00t:

No, it's not what you thought of :loleverybody:

They created a website with free appz made using Thinstall here :w00t:

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 08:58 AM

They created a website with free appz made using Thinstall here :w00t:


VERY good find! :loleverybody:

jaclaz

P.S.: it seems like they are not connected to thinstall:
http://www.thindownload.com/imprint

LEGAL DISCLAIMERS:
1) thindownload.com is not affiliated with, sponsored or endorsed by Thinstall
2) Thinstall is a registered trademark of Thinstall in the U.S. and in other countries.Thinstalled is a trademark of Thinstall
3) thindownload.com is not responsible for the content of a software publisher's description. We encourage you to determine whether this product or your intended use is legal. We do not encourage or condone the use of any software in violation of applicable laws.
4) thindownload.com does not sell, resell, or license any of the products listed on this site. We cannot be held liable for issues that arise from the download or use of these products.

I just tried the OPERA download and I do have some perplexities on the contents of the License Agreement you have to accept that seems like a 30 days trial :w00t:

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 01:25 PM

Many applications Thinstalled here (Firefox, Opera, Gimp, OpenOffice...) don't need virtualization to be portable, a good launcher can do the work.

You can found some of them in english at PortableApps.com or in french at PortableApps.free.fr

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 02:16 PM

Hallo Bernat,
first thing welcome to the forum. :w00t:

Sorry to say so, but as you might gather by looking a bit around, your post is not exactly "news":
http://www.boot-land...?...pic=101&hl=
:loleverybody:

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#11 Bernat

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 04:02 PM

Hello Jaclaz,

Thanks for your welcome.

I did not intend to post "news", just talking about oportunity to virtualize.

Perhaps Portable Opera 9.50.9500 Multilang will be new for you? :loleverybody:

#12 was_jaclaz

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 04:24 PM

I did not intend to post "news", just talking about oportunity to virtualize.


Yes, I got that, just kidding a little bit. :loleverybody:

This thread however, that started as utterly unrelated to Winbuilder, appears to be drifting away even further, maybe it would be better placed in "Websites".

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#13 MedEvil

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 07:20 PM

Is there some clever way of looking inside a thinstall created exe?
I would be really curious what they put into the winamp package, to make it 22MB big!

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 12:23 PM

Landesk Application Virtualization is based on Thinstall and it is cheaper.

Link here

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 06:12 PM

You "virtualization" guys could have a look at this also:
http://juice.altiris.com/node/86
http://www.svsdownloads.com/

This "Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution™ (SVS™)" appears as Free for Personal Use!

Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution™ (SVS™) is a new way to use software. By placing applications and data into managed units called Virtual Software Packages™ (VSP's™), SVS allows you to instantly activate, deactivate, or reset applications, to completely avoid conflicts between applications, and to remove them cleanly without altering the base Windows installation. Say goodbye to "DLL Hell" and "Registry Rot". Getting apps and data into VSP's is simple with an included tool. See the offical product page for the full details.
http://www.altiris.c...onSolution.aspx


Here is a small comparison between Landesk and Altiris:
http://redmondmag.co...itorialsid=1776

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#16 TheHive

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 09:18 PM

The

Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution

Is perty sweet.
Here is a demo of how it works.
http://www.altiris.c...imedia/svsdemo/

And as stated is can be used free for personal use.

#17 TheHive

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 09:37 PM

On testing

Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution

Dowloaded the program installed Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution and also downloaded the personal key they offer.

So I ran Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution and created a new WinAmp layer and told it to only take snapshots of the changes made by installed program. Then I browse to where I had the program I wanted to install and then finished and it started the installer for winamp. I then just installed winamp as i would normally and finished the install. WinAmp now appears inside the Altiris® Software Virtualization Solution admin thing. As you can see its in the desktop and appears to be part of the OS.

Virtual_Winamp.JPG


If I right click on the Winamp and select deactivate
Virtual_Winamp2.JPG

The application is gone from desktop and programs files folder. You can reactivate it using the Admin thing.
Virtual_Winamp3.JPG

#18 romsempire

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Posted 16 September 2007 - 11:35 PM

SVS is good, but install SVS service.

Instead Landesk need any service to work, but you must have installed landesk with regular license.

The best is Thinstall that can create real "standalone" application, but is expensive.




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