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#1 antonino61

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 07:45 PM

I had a go at this sorta tweak this afternoon. There is actually no significant gain in boot speed, but everything seems to be running more crisply and the alternative seems to provide a lot more info than conventional taskmgr.exe - u can have processxp64.exe (or processxp.exe for x86) replace task manager. try it and see for urselves.

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 06:44 AM

WHICH alternative? :unsure:

 

The MS/Sysinternals one here?:

https://docs.microso...rocess-explorer

 

It doesn't seem to me as an alternative to task manager, but rather a different program, with different capabilities.  

 

Anyway, WHY task manager (or an alternative) should alter/change booting speed or responsiveness of the system? :dubbio:

 

You may want to try Task Manager Deluxe, maybe:

http://www.mitec.cz/tmx.html

 

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:04 AM

just tried tmx64 - it is bulkier than processxp and taskmgr. Windows Task Manager is used to view details about processes running on your computer (quote from https://www.tweakand...ws-virus.html).processxp is a different program, ok, which shows a lot more, though. also tmx64 seems to offer a lot more. As far as speed is concerned, it might have been just a wrong perception on my part when comparing regular tm with processxp, but I do not have the same perception when trying tmx64, probably because I have now been influence by your info. does taskmgr do anything useful during the booting and the normal daily operations? if it is not doing anything vital, why not do without it altogether, so as to skim booting and running processes?

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:20 AM

btw, I have now found out that neither processxp, nor tmx64 can fully replace ordinary taskmgr.exe. they can if u launch them by clicking on them, but neither works if u try calling it after the 3-finger-salute leading u back to the logon screen (by clicking on the last item (which is TaskManager)). in the case of processxp, it returns an error concerning arguments that should have been used (dont know how, though) in order to have it appear; in the case of tmx64, it actually does nothing. again, as I was hinting at earlier on, if it is not vital, in the sense that the system boots and runs, why not delete it in the first place and launch tmx64.exe and/or processxp only if need be (unwanted rhyme)?

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:49 AM

Think at Task Manager (and at a number of other programs that are NOT involved in the booting process AND that are NOT automatically started during the boot process) as a huge number of extremely light balls (think of polistyrene or small air filled balloons).

 

If you fill the trunk of your car with them, the car won't be slower, nor it will be harder to start on cold mornings.

 

Surely you cannot put anymore any luggage in the trunk, but that's it, lots of volume but no (noticeable) weight.

 

The CTRL+ALT+DEL (commonly known as "the three finger salute" or - more technically SAS Secure Attention Sequence) is something that is "embedded" in the NT kernel:

https://en.wikipedia...e_attention_key

https://en.wikipedia...trol-Alt-Delete

 

and "trapping" it is intentionally made impossible (or very, very difficult).

 

In recent Windows versions (unlike the good ol' ones) the CTRL+ALT-DEL should be connected to a menu (and not directly to Task Manager) which can be (within limits) be customized through gpedit settings.

 

The "direct" shortcut to Task Manager is now CTRL+SHIFT+ESC:

https://mrbit.me/Ctrl-Shift-Esc/

 

Starting - I believe - with some versions of Windows 10 there is the "Keyboard Filter" feature:

https://docs.microso.../keyboardfilter

 that allows to disable some key combinations, but there is not a method to re-map a key combo to another program, AFAIK/AFAICR :unsure:.

 

TMX has an option "Replace Task Manager".

What will that do? :dubbio:

 

More to try:

https://www.bleeping...ager/?p=3724182

 

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#6 antonino61

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 12:40 PM

my dear wonko, u are the best around when it comes to metaphor- or image-based explanations. as for the second part (replacing task manager), both processxp and tmx64 allow that. I initially tried that the soft way (actually ticking the appropriate setting, as u hinted), then I physically renamed both to taskmgr.exe and replaced the original taskmgr.exe in windows\system32 and windows\syswoa... (the 32bit i mean) respectively. and what I said in my earlier post refers exactly to this latter condition. if there is no other info that could be used in speeding things up both/either at boot and/or at normal daily operation, I hardly ever use any of them, so I do not particularly care at this point (leave the original taskmgr.exe?).

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