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#1 Nuno Brito

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:41 AM

Interesting things happening:
 

I have this Win10 Enterprise vm that I was using to test out various privacy settings. Here's some of the stuff I found out so far...

I have teredo and IPv6 disabled and yet it is connecting out to do IPV6 teredo tests.


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Here you can see I have telemetry disabled, plus the tracking-related services are disabled plus a few reg hacks. Still connects.

 
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Original discussion at https://twitter.com/...353982217699328

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 02:52 PM

I should improve my english. I didn't know that "connecting" or "Connectivity Test" meant "transmitting data".


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:41 PM

That's why many people say 10 is MALWARE or SPYWARE.

 

When a OS is doing something we especificaly block, it do not have a better definition.

 

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:43 PM

That's why many people say 10 is MALWARE or SPYWARE.

 

Let's then hereby declare Windows 10 as "spalmware". :lol:



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:25 PM

C'mon, it's 10, what did you expect? Of course M$ is going to do stuff behind our backs. 10 isn't that bad, it's actually pretty good, if you discount the telemetry, forced updates. Just set up a firewall and block anything you don't like.

Edit: Check out wumt_64 if you want total control over the update process. It lets you control updating much like how you could in older versions of Windows, letting you unselect/exclude what you don't want. There is also PortUp and WSUS Offline, but I think wumt_64 is the best of the 3.

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:17 PM

It is funny to see these tests done only on Windows 10... As if the previous versions of Windows didn't do the same thing.



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:26 PM

Which one was the first doing the "phone home" feature without end-user permission?

 

Was it 95 or 98? This was 20 years ago, can't remember so well any more, maybe Wonko remembers. :)



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:27 PM

At least in XP or 7 when you disable a feature it remains disabled, not lying to you.



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:37 PM

I think Windows 8 was the first Windows OS that was widely acknowledged to phone home without permission. Maybe it happened in earlier versions, but I never noticed, and if it did, it wasn't to the extent that it is now. Even older versions like 7 are now receiving backported telemetry updates, when previously there were few or none. Microsoft figures "Hey, if they won't upgrade, then we'll create tracking updates for them too". IMO, they should have just kept improving on 7, offering the features of 8/8.1/10 as new updates, instead of making a new version. But they had to go and essentially reinvent the wheel and turn people's digital worlds upside down. Why not take an already stable and popular base then improve upon it? It's a smart business tactic. A CEO would have to be crazy to abandon something that works in favor of something that isn't proven. If I were the board of directors, that person would be fired.

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:40 PM

Which one was the first doing the "phone home" feature without end-user permission?

 

Was it 95 or 98? This was 20 years ago, can't remember so well any more, maybe Wonko remembers. :)

 

 

Naah, I believe the first one was windows XP.

 

Previous versions had not any "online activation" of any kind and much more than that in good ol' NT4 (and to a lesser extent Windows 2K ) times it was rare to have a 24h always on internet connection, we had dial up, and the same applies to Windows 95/98/Me.

 

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 12:16 PM

If you read it all you will see he admits he screwed up some of the policy settings so its not as bad as he originally reported. Although even when fixed it still did not stop all the calls home.



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Posted 23 May 2017 - 12:17 PM

Read his follow up instead: https://xato.net/win...nt-19203babb2e7


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#13 Nuno Brito

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 12:26 PM

Read his follow up instead: https://xato.net/win...nt-19203babb2e7

Good one.

 

Sad is that everything seems broken after you disable the phone home features, which aren't disabled completely in either case. :mellow:




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