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#1 alacran

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:19 AM

Free portable programs executable from PE

 

The pourpose of this post is share our good FREE tools for repairing and servicing our PC when need arrise, in acordance with Reboot forum rules only FREE programs are allowed to be shared in the forum, so please DO NOT post Warez

 

I invite all members to share here, in the end this is going to be good for all of us.

 

The idea is put all Portables we use in a directory on the root of our USB/CD/DVD (or another one), keeping the PE as smaller as possible in order to boot faster even from USB 2.0 or CD/DVD and once we boot the PE, run the tools we need, as an example of use this way it's very easy to keep our antivirus updated without the need of building a new PE.

 

It is necesary to remember a PE is not a Miny OS for chat on Facebook or watch TV on line, it's pourpose is very clear: A tool for installing OS and repair failures on PC's.

 

This is also going to be useful for developers in this forum reducing their hard work required to make scripts for

programs if there is an alternative already executable from PE that perhaps they are not aware of, then allowing them to concentrate in other tasks. 

 

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Just to keep some order I strongly suggest to include the following info:

 

Portable/Architecture/Size:
Description:
Thread here:
Page:
Download link:
Dependencies:
Special Requirements:
Runs from non writable media:
Tested from WinPE/source version (s):
Tested on Project(s):
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This post is getting long, I'll start listing my favorite tools in next Post (in no particular order just as they come to my mind, latter I'll fix it).

 

Regards

 

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EDIT: Added misty suggestions.

 

EDIT 2: For some SFX Compressed Portables I made, see: http://reboot.pro/to...e-2#entry211240

 

NOTES:

It is preferable to run portables from a writable media as some of them require write access to store settings.

WinPE version(s): As it is not very intuitive you can put Source OS used for building the PE (including SP please).

WinPE Version List:  https://www.autoitco...e-version-list/


Edited by alacran, 18 May 2019 - 04:26 AM.

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:20 AM

Let's start the list:

BootIce v1.3.4 x86 & x64 Size: x86 416 KB, x64 450 KB
Description: Swiss Knife for disks tasks, edit BCD, install boot loaders
Thread here: Very old and not updated.
Page: http://www.ipauly.co.../11/15/bootice/
Downlod link: https://www.softpedi...k/Bootice.shtml
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Yes
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): XP SP-3 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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wimlib-imagex x86 & x64 Size: x86 640 KB, x64 654 KB
Description: Good alternative to Microsoft's WIMGAPI, ImageX, and DISM. Excellent for OS back-up images.
Thread here: http://reboot.pro/to...ity#entry169800
Page: https://wimlib.net/
Download link: https://wimlib.net/d...oads/index.html
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Yes
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10 (I read in posts here it runs on XP SP-1 too).
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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wimlib-clc x86 & x64 Size: 8.06 MB (single download)
Description: GUI for wimlib-imagex Excellent for OS back-up images.
Thread here: http://reboot.pro/to...861-wimlib-clc/
Page: None
Download link: http://reboot.pro/fi...588-wimlib-clc/
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Yes
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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PStart x86 Size: 768 KB
Description: Portables Launcher
Thread here: None
Page: http://www.pegtop.net/start/
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Needs writable media to update config file
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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Portable Start Menu x86 Size: 2.5 MB
Description: Portables Launcher
Thread here: None
Page: http://aignes.com/psmenu.htm
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Needs writable media to update config file
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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WinNTSetup x86 & x64 Size: 568 KB (single download)
Description: Deploying tool
Thread here: Pending
Page: http://www.msfn.org/...nntsetup-v3873/
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: In first run downloads additional files from MS.
Runs from non writable media: Yes (after first run, but you can't save the config file if you make any change)
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): XP SP-3 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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SwiftSearch x86 Size: x86 775 KB
Description: Very Fast File Search Utility (only for NTFS, can't read any FAT or exFAT partitions)
Thread here: http://reboot.pro/to...?hl=swiftsearch
Page: https://sourceforge....ts/swiftsearch/
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Yes
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): XP SP-3 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:59 AM

@alacran
A fantastic idea and nice addition to the forum.

A useful addition would be to request that any dependencies be listed - whether these be file or registry dependencies. Strictly speaking, a portable app shouldn't need registry dependencies - however in a PE this isn't a problem as, assuming PE is running in RAM, they will not persist following a reboot. The Disk Management script from MistyPE is a good example - run a batch to add registry settings and away you go. The Disk Management script will only work if the file versions and bit type match the WinPE version you are attempting to run it on.

Some portable apps may require write access to store settings and might not run from a CD/DVD - perhaps state if tested on non-writable media.

It would also be useful to list which WinPE environments they have been tested in (e.g. WinPE 3.1) and possibly under which project.

Great work.

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 09:19 AM

@misty

 

Thanks, your suggestions are wellcome, I'll include them in First Post.

 

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 10:11 PM

This post is about 7zSFX Constructor a FREE aplication that can be installed as a usuall program in our OS or as portable, very good for make your own compacted Portables.

Link to Sourceforge.net page: https://sourceforge....sfxconstructor/

After download and decompress the 7zip, to install the program we need to run install.cmd select language for installation, acept license as usuall and finally the installer ask us if we want a portable install or a clasic install (to create an unistaler), AFAIK it do not make any changes in the registry the only diference is the creation or not of the unistaller. Once we open it it should be in english, if not see picture 1- Language.png

I suggest to create a folder in your desktop you may call it Project or any name you want, then just put inside it, the App you want to compress into a folder with the App name lets say MyApp, then select or drag and drop folder Project to "Select Folder", for x86 see picture 2- x86.png. For x64 is same procedure, only change is "Module" needs to be x64, see picture 3- x86.png. Left click on "Create 7 z SFX" and let process finish.

Program is going to create a compressed SFX file on C:\Documents\7zSFX\MyApp.exe if you didn't change default path, if you run the SFX file MyApp.exe, it is going to decompress as a temporary folder on C:\Temp\MyApp\MyApp.exe or on X:\Temp\MyApp\MyApp.exe (if runnig from a WinPE) and run MyApp.exe,

When you close it, C:\Temp\MyApp or X:\Temp\MyApp and all it's content will be deleted.

If you have an App with x86&x64 *.exe's you have two options:

1- Compress x86  first and latter compress x64, in order to get a SFX for each architecture (32 and 64 bits).

2- Compress x86 and x64 at the same time on separate folders preferable (but not mandatory), each one with App name as MyAppx86 and MyAppx64 put this two folders inside your Project folder, use picture 4- x86&x64.png as a guide Just make sure 7zSFX Constructor selected for you the right one x86.exe and also for x64.exe, if not manually fix it, run Create 7z SFX  This is going to build a single compressed MyAppx86.exe, (Rename it just deleting x86) this new file MyApp.exe is capable to self-extract and run the respective x86.exe or x64.exe according to the OS or WinPE from it was launched, for a WinPEx64 but require sysWoW64 integrated when builded. (This is because we used x86 module when we created the SFX).

 

7zSFX Constructor can use this System variables for extraction path (quote from Program help) :

Spoiler

 

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:03 AM

Very frecuently programs have dependencies (as *.dll, .Net Framework, etc) to run properly, and if they are not available then we see a message telling us that, and the program closes. when in real OS almost all this requierements are in Windows\System32 and (if we are on 64 bits OS)  Windows\SysWOW64, if there is a lack, usually program itselft installs or ofer us to download whats required, it is very easy also to install manually what we need, e.g.: DirectX9.c (for many legacy games), .NET Framework (AutoCAD can't rut without it), etc.

 

When we are going to boot from a WinPE we need to make sure we have all dependencies for each program we will run are available, easier way for small *.dll's is put them in the program folder itself as misty kindly explain here: 

 

Quote from MistyPE Guide:

Spoiler

 

See following link for 5 Tools to Check Dependency Files Needed by Application:

https://www.raymond....for-a-software/

 

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:35 AM

Registry dependencies.

 

When a program is installed on our PC it usually also makes changes in the registry we need to add to our WinPE if we want a particular program to run from PE, it is possible to also add this registry changes in our Portable folder, before make the SFX, trough a batch file or a reg file wich needs to run before launch the program.

 

Quote from MistyPE Guide:

Spoiler

 

Regshot is an open-source (LGPL) registry compare utility that allows you to quickly take a snapshot of your registry and then compare it with a second one - done after doing system changes or installing a new software product. Page: https://sourceforge....ojects/regshot/


Other alternatives (page is not updated): https://www.raymond....are-in-windows/


4 Tools to Decode and Convert Windows Registry Hex Values to Text: https://www.raymond....ry-hex-to-text/


 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:06 PM

Two more Free portable programs executable from PE:

Double Driver x86 2.06 MB
Description: Drivers Backup
Thread here: None
Page: http://boozet.org/dd.htm
Download link: http://boozet.org/download.htm
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Should do it (Not tested)
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082
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Gotcha Data Backup x86 2.5 MB
Description: Swiss Knife for backup your drivers and info before reinstall/update OS
Thread here: http://reboot.pro/to...ckup/?hl=gotcha
Page: http://integrator.pr...p?addons&id=243
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Should do it (Not tested)
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): All for Winbuilder v080 & v082
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:19 PM

Two more Free portable programs executable from PE:

AmoK CD-DVD Burning v1.10 x86 724 KB
Description: CD-DVD Burning
Thread here: None
Page: http://www.amok.am/e...cd-dvd_burning/
Download link: http://www.amok.am/e...rning/download/
Dependencies: Some WinPE may need WMASF.DLL & WMVCORE.DLL 32bits (x86), I took them from my running 7 SP-1 x64 SysWOW64
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Should do it (Not tested)
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): Made with Winbuilder 082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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explorer++ x86 and x64 614 and 694 KB respectively
Description: Lightweight and fast file manager (looks great)
Thread here: None
Page: https://explorerplusplus.com/
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: Additional language dll's from https://explorerplus...om/translations
Runs from non writable media: Should do it (Not tested)
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): Made with Winbuilder 082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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Posted 26 March 2017 - 04:36 PM

Don't wanna be negative, but why would you include anything in PE image?

 

What I mean:

CD's, DVD's, BD's are history. They will not come back and it makes much more sense to include clean PE with winpeshl.ini or startnet.cmd to map back to boot drive or network share. Even with such media in use it makes no sense to put apps inside PE.

 

Instead:

Usage with PE, linux based bootables with 5 bootloader ring built-in namely: G4D, Syslinux, Grub 2 (EFI), MS-DOS 6.22, Windows bootmgr / bcd BIOS/EFI modified which will then make absolutely anything in this planet to run from same media.



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 05:41 PM

What I mean:

CD's, DVD's, BD's are history. They will not come back

CD's, DVD's, BD's do have inherent or lasting value. That medium is still used. Where as online content might not. That is, if a digital company goes belly up you might loose the content you paid for. Usb are very handy but are easy to loose or forget.

Just like people keep saying PC's and PC Games are dead. As long as people have a need for the medium it is hard to call it history, yet. People still buy CD's / DVDs / Blu-Ray, books, and magazines. Physical media and online digital media continue to co-exist.

 

 

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 07:51 PM

Including programs in the PE image can make life a lot easier in most cases. Knowing that the drive will be mounted as X and not having to worry about finding the media containing programs reduces complexity.

Flat boot from a UFD is a great alternative to .wim files on low RAM systems and anything on the same UFD (assuming it contains only one partition) can be easily found as the X: mount point will be used for the single volume on the disk.

CD's are great on old systems that do not support booting from USB.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 09:35 PM

What I meant was that when you have a choice to either add programs / software inside PE image or include the software to what ever media you are using (even CD/DVD/BD/etc) it would be way smarter to have easy update directories as I use in my projects.

 

Easy example:

 

drive:\myid.disk

drive:\folder\mylittlepe.wim

drive:\tools\<all of my software and tools>

 

and add for loop inside startnet.cmd (or build a program which query wmi for available drives -> check drives for "myid.disk"):

@echo off
FOR /F "tokens=1-2 skip=1 delims= " %%A IN ('wmic logicaldisk get Caption^,volumename') DO (
IF EXIST "%%A\myid.disk" (
echo my tools are located at: %%A\TOOLS
echo at volume: %%B
)
)
FOR %%A IN (a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z) DO (
IF EXIST "%%A:\myid.disk" (
echo my tools are located at: %%A\TOOLS
)
)

Example #1: Uses WMI

Example #2: is basic CMD which loops thru every possible drive letter.



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Posted 27 March 2017 - 03:59 AM

@ genetix

 

Don't wanna be negative, but why would you include anything in PE image?

 

What I mean:

CD's, DVD's, BD's are history. They will not come back and it makes much more sense to include clean PE with winpeshl.ini or startnet.cmd to map back to boot drive or network share. Even with such media in use it makes no sense to put apps inside PE.

 

Instead:

Usage with PE, linux based bootables with 5 bootloader ring built-in namely: G4D, Syslinux, Grub 2 (EFI), MS-DOS 6.22, Windows bootmgr / bcd BIOS/EFI modified which will then make absolutely anything in this planet to run from same media.

 

I think you didn't reed first post, I never said include portables in PE image, that way will take a long time to boot, In fact I said the exact opposite, as you can see in next quote.

 

This is from first post:

 

The idea is put all Portables we use in a directory on the root of our USB/CD/DVD (or another one), keeping the PE as smaller as possible in order to boot faster even from USB 2.0 or CD/DVD and once we boot the PE, run the tools we need, as an example of use this way it's very easy to keep our antivirus updated without the need of building a new PE.

 

Anyway your comments are wellcome and will be good if you share any portable you use.

 

Best Regards

 

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 04:30 AM

And two more portables:

HotSwap! x86 & x64 183 KB and 207 KB respectively
Description: Safely Remove Hardware
Thread here: None
Page:http://mt-naka.com/h...p/index_enu.htm
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Should do it (Not tested)
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): Made with Winbuilder 082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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USBDeview x86 & x64 Size pending
Description: Swiss knife for USB's
Thread here: None
Page: http://www.nirsoft.net/
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Should do it (Not tested)
Tested from WinPE/source version(s): 7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): Made with Winbuilder 082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java

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EDIT: I was repeating two apps from second post, fixed now.

 

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 06:20 AM

@alacran

 

yeah, figured I did misreading something or it was really weird idea to integrate something directly to PE, heh, for my defense it was 01am when I wrote that.

 

few good ones for the addition:

 

REGSHOT, https://sourceforge....ojects/regshot/

Dupemerge, http://schinagl.priv.../dupemerge.html

ImageUSB, http://www.osforensi...usb-images.html

RESHACKER, http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/

VERACRYPT, https://veracrypt.co...title=Downloads

QuickHASH, https://sourceforge....ects/quickhash/

VDISM, https://sourceforge....projects/vdism/ (Although, needs patch to latest dism, WinRAR to extract you get latest dism from PE itself)

SuperOrca, http://www.pantaray....super_orca.html

WMICodeCreator, https://www.microsof...ls.aspx?id=8572

DotnetPatcher, https://sourceforge..../dotnetpatcher/

AESCrypt, https://www.aescrypt.com/

Visual Subst, http://www.ntwind.co...sual-subst.html

Partition Wizard, https://www.partitio...m/download.html

ISOBurn, http://isoburn.org/

FreeCommander, http://freecommander.com/en/downloads/ (is quite nice explorer replacement for PE)

 

and if you enable wpeutil networking interface (mobile network drivers ain't too bad idea either from LTE and Huawei) this toy is most have:

 

DHCP Server for Windows, http://www.dhcpserver.de/cms/download/

 

 

Beside those working from PE (dotnet and WMI generator of course needing packages). Nirsoft has quite nice set of tools of course Sysinternals toys.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 06:51 AM

@ genetix

 

Thanks, I was aware of Nirsoft & Sysinternal, also PortableApps,

 

I think they are well known and was trying to bring other apps not available there.

 

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 07:29 AM

CD's, DVD's, BD's do have inherent or lasting value. That medium is still used. Where as online content might not. That is, if a digital company goes belly up you might loose the content you paid for. Usb are very handy but are easy to loose or forget.

Just like people keep saying PC's and PC Games are dead. As long as people have a need for the medium it is hard to call it history, yet. People still buy CD's / DVDs / Blu-Ray, books, and magazines. Physical media and online digital media continue to co-exist.

 

Another use for CD's/DVD's (NON rewritables) is when you are dealing with a friend's PC (perhaps infected with virus), and you don't want to risk your USB drives. I have two DVD's with several ISO's inside, bootables through grub4dos and isolinux made with MkisofsGui 0.1 from Erwan.L, before this tool was made I had to type a long command line to run Mkisofts, very prone to mistakes.

 

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 11:39 AM

Dear alacran,

thanks for this collection off useful tools.

 

May I add a tool for harddisk scanning:

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 Portable/Architecture/Size:

Scanner 2.13  / x86 / 243kb
Description:  Display the usage of your hard disk / drive / directory.
Thread here: None
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Yes
Tested from WinPE version (s): PE1 to PE5
Tested on Project(s): BartPE to MistyPE
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Posted 29 March 2017 - 11:58 AM

My absolute must-have Tool is TotalCommander.

Maybe not real Freeware, but it will work also without an licence. 

 

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 Portable/Architecture/Size:

Total Commander  / x86 / x64
Description:  Best Filemanager ever
Thread here: None
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: needs Plugins
Runs from non writable media: Yes
Tested from WinPE version (s): PE1 to PE5
Tested on Project(s): Own
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Posted 29 March 2017 - 04:32 PM

May I add a tool for harddisk scanning:

 

 

Sequoia View uses a more useful IMHO visual representation:
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

download down, get it from here:

http://www.softpedia...quoiaView.shtml

which works nicely from PE's, although most probably nowadays one would want to use WinDirStat:
https://windirstat.net/

which also should run fine in any PE.



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Posted 29 March 2017 - 07:48 PM

@Wonko

 

That's one weird damn softwate, lol. I mean what exactly is the purpose of the software sure escapes me.

 

It's damn cool looking, but kinda seems like "Just because I can..."-heh.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 09:09 AM

Well, at the time sequoiaview was developed it made a lot of sense, basically when you had some "tight space" on disk it provided a quick, visual way to understand what files actually filled up the filesystem (and thus allow you to delete, move or reduce them).

 

The Windirstat (which has of course a lot of bells and whistles and as such is a tad bit on the slow side when scanning ) adds the colours by file type, which may be useful as an example to understand which stupid .dll (of which only one or two - BTW lousy - function is used) makes an otherwise "slim", portable tool a stupid mass of bloat.

The "scanner" Retokener posted a link to, as well as a number of other similar programs offer what I believe to be a less intuitive visual representation of disk space, while the "proportional area" squares or rectangles are easier to the eye (besides beautiful).

 

And now really off topic, just to show how sometimes useful, intelligent programs fall into oblivion and vanish, a "smart" visual image chooser:

http://web.archive.o...kte/ImageSorter

An older version available for download:
http://loadion.com/e....02_167035.html

http://www.softsea.c...mageSorter.html

The beta 3 version (German only):
http://web.archive.o...tupv3_xp_de.zip

Latest version:
http://pixolution.org/lab/archive/

 

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Wonko



#24 alacran

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 08:09 PM

I almost forget this very good tool

 

WinContig x86 & x64 900 KB
Description: Defragmenter [selected file(s), folder(s) or all drive]
Thread here: None
Page: http://wincontig.mdt...it/en/index.htm
Download link: Available on program page
Dependencies: None
Special Requirements: None
Runs from non writable media: Should do it (Not tested)
Tested from WinPE/source version(s):  7 SP-1 up to 10
Tested on Project(s): Made with Winbuilder 082, haven't tested projects for Winbuilder coded in Java
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#25 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 09:33 AM

Thread here: None

Thread here: VERY old (and EXTREMELY short ;)):
http://reboot.pro/to...7160-wincontig/

 

BTW/JFYI:
http://reboot.pro/to...-and-defrag-it/

 

And (useful for scripting), the good ol' Mydefrag 4.31 contained a nice command line tool Myfragmenter.exe that can both fragment and defragment a single file (and provide exact location in the filesystem of its extent(s)):
http://filehippo.com...nload_mydefrag/

 

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