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#1 Ankur.k1991

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 08:49 AM

How to remove Bitlocker encription from full HDD.

I have NO KEY and NO EMAIL ID to open this laptop. My friend purchase this laptop from someone.

 

 

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When i turn on laptop first showing DELL logo And then This screen. I want to remove this.

 

 

 

 



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Posted 30 December 2015 - 10:42 AM

How to remove Bitlocker encription from full HDD.

I have NO KEY and NO EMAIL ID to open this laptop. My friend purchase this laptop from someone.

 

Have your friend call the someone and get the key.

 

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 10:45 PM

In all likelihood your friend bought a laptop of dubious origin (i.e. stolen) and the thief didn't inform about BitLocker or hand over the password........because they didn't know it. For them the laptop is useless while passworded, so they sell it to an unsuspecting victim for money to fuel a drug addiction, etc. Any reputable seller would give full disclosure upfront.

 

Edit: Remove the HDD and format it. This will generally completely remove any form of encryption. No cracking required.



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Posted 31 December 2015 - 03:44 AM

maybe that someone his friend aquired it from got it from a dead relative.. it happens.

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 08:16 AM

@ Zoso: What you're saying may be true, but unlikely. People post on the Net all the time wanting help removing PINs from iPhone/iPad/Android devices, etc. As well as requests for help to remove encryption from PCs. It makes better sense for the assumption to be made that these items are probably of illegal origin, since people can't afford to go around helping others with such matters while simply trusting that the claimant has good intentions, when the opposite is likely to be the case.

 

Unless and until the OP can provide conclusive proof that the laptop either wasn't illegally obtained or proof of ownership, then I would say no further efforts should be made to assist them.

 

The owners of reboot.pro could theoretically be held legally liable if the authorities were to discover that members here had helped circumvent the encryption. I already suggested formatting the drive, but that was because it's not hard to get that info with a quick Google search regardless.

 

If the OP has some reason for needing the info on the HDD intact, then s/he will need to crack it themselves. Besides that, it would be a matter of bruteforcing or exploiting some other weakness in BitLocker, which I seriously doubt anyone here has the skills to pull off. And for free? Get real. The most elite hackers charge for their services/expertise. No such thing as a free ride if you want premium services that require uber skills.



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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:33 AM

Interesting legal points :), all these years thinking that one of the fundamentals of the US Law system was about presumption of innocence, i.e. believe innocent until found guilty ... :(, but at the base there is an even bigger problem, there is no known/documented way to crack a bitlocker encryption, except - maybe - through a Commercial tool (that however doesn't really crack *anything* and needs a number of conditions that are very unlikely to be verified in the specific case). 

 

This doesn't mean that a selected, restricted number of three or more letters government agencies doesn't have some specialized hardware that may do some bruteforcing on a Bitlocker device, but even IF hey have the technology, likely we are talking of several weeks or months of computing time of a super-computer, it is unlikely that any of them will want to help the OP's friend.

 

So all Ankur.k1991 may get is - at the best - a few bodged attempts by people that don't understand the issue,

 

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 10:01 AM

Ankur.k1991 if you have 29343.79 rupee's you could try this software it would be interesting to know if anyone has used this and managed Bitlocker encryption .... to add to my kit?



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Posted 31 December 2015 - 02:08 PM

Ankur.k1991 if you have 29343.79 rupee's you could try this software it would be interesting to know if anyone has used this and managed Bitlocker encryption .... to add to my kit?

Well, that tool (as well as a few similar ones around) is strangely over-rated and it doesn't really crack anything (obviously), you should actually READ what that software can do, it can "acquire" or more plainly "read" a (cached) bitlocker key:
 

Three Ways to Acquire Encryption Keys

Elcomsoft Forensic Disk Decryptor needs the original encryption keys in order to access protected information stored in crypto containers. The encryption keys can be derived from hibernation files or memory dump files acquired while the encrypted volume was mounted. There are three ways available to acquire the original encryption keys:

  • By analyzing the hibernation file (if the PC being analyzed is turned off);
  • By analyzing a memory dump file *
  • By performing a FireWire attack ** (PC being analyzed must be running with encrypted volumes mounted).

Of the three ways #2 and #3 only work if the PC is ON and with the volume mounted (and one needs anyway access to the OS, and the "firewire attack" (or "DMA") nowadays is more a myth than anything else anyway), the first one may work, provided that a hibernate file exists AND it is retrievable (which is normally not since the (system) volume where the hiberfil.sys resides is normally bitlocker encrypted).

 

AND, just to call things with their name, you cannot really expect that I will buy as "your" kit  http://savepic.net/7593428.gifan image of a FIB you ripped from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia...ocused_ion_beam

 

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 02:40 PM

@ Wonko: Having had a very long run with the US criminal justice system, I can assure you that you are actually presumed as guilty until proven innocent (which is usually true anyway since most defendants are in fact guilty of the crimes they've been charged with), no matter what is claimed. I don't think it is something you would fully understand unless you are a US citizen, born and raised here. Since you're clearly an Italian national then this obviously isn't the case.

 

Microsoft has stated numerous times that they have never permitted (given) any govt agency a backdoor in BitLocker, not even the NSA, and I would say they're probably being truthful. However, that doesn't mean that these agencies haven't cracked it on their own, or at least had their jobs made easier for them by MS with certain actions/agreements (intentional weakening, not patching known exploits, etc).



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Posted 31 December 2015 - 03:54 PM

It makes better sense for the assumption to be made that these items are probably of illegal origin.


hi AnonVendetta,
IMO it does not but I no longer suffer from the same illusions of the legal matrix either

Unless and until the OP can provide conclusive proof that the laptop either wasn't illegally obtained or proof of ownership, then I would say no further efforts should be made to assist them.


the OP is not the one making the claim that it is stolen, burden of proof falls on the claimant.

The owners of reboot.pro could theoretically be held legally liable if the authorities were to discover that members here had helped circumvent the encryption.


theoretically, the earth could be flat too and technically it requires a license to make a legal determination. (decode the codes)

Interesting legal points :), all these years thinking that one of the fundamentals of the US Law system was about presumption of innocence, i.e. believe innocent until found guilty ... :(,


hi Wonko, yes very interesting and complicated by the law merchant guild since there is at least three definitions of the "United States" but there is an old saying that "The map is not the territory" and in much the same way, the distritcs are not the land. then you have the law of the land and the color of law of the districts (codes)

I think what you are referring to is the law of the land.

This doesn't mean that a selected, restricted number of three or more letters government agencies doesn't have some specialized hardware that may do some bruteforcing on a Bitlocker device,


or that real men or women acting as agents for legal fictions may have also.

@ Wonko: Having had a very long run with the US criminal justice system, I can assure you that you are actually presumed as guilty until proven innocent


for I concur, the "system" does indeed operate on presumptions and therefor I think it is best to properly rebut those presumptions.

(which is usually true anyway since most defendants are in fact guilty of the crimes they've been charged with)


I think it better to study The Truth for oneself in order to know what is "true" and what is a "crime" than to rely on others to define it for you.

and what is the difference between a "defendant" and a man defending himself? and might what you presume to be a "crime", in truth only be an infraction of a code? code = color of law. appears to be law, may even be presumed to have the force of law if not properly rebutted.




no matter what is claimed. I don't think it is something you would fully understand unless you are a US citizen, born and raised here. Since you're clearly an Italian national then this obviously isn't the case.


Ive found it best not to "under-stand" the legal matrix overlay of any land myself. i; a man, have standing. i do not stand under legal fictions.

"What is real?" -morpheous

I would agree to format that machine though, and not worth the time it would take to attempt any other options.

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 03:56 PM

@ Wonko: Having had a very long run with the US criminal justice system, I can assure you that you are actually presumed as guilty until proven innocent (which is usually true anyway since most defendants are in fact guilty of the crimes they've been charged with), no matter what is claimed.

Sure, that's practice, but in theory you cannot seriously accuse Ankur.k1991's friend of being either a thief or a "fence", wouldn't that be a form of libel?

I don't think it is something you would fully understand unless you are a US citizen, born and raised here. Since you're clearly an Italian national then this obviously isn't the case.

Yep, same as becoming President of the United States, you MUST be born there.

Microsoft has stated numerous times that they have never permitted (given) any govt agency a backdoor in BitLocker, not even the NSA, and I would say they're probably being truthful. However, that doesn't mean that these agencies haven't cracked it on their own, or at least had their jobs made easier for them by MS with certain actions/agreements (intentional weakening, not patching known exploits, etc).

Well, if they (Microsoft) did they won't tell you, and if they (NSA or other three or more letter government agency) can, they again wont' tell you, but everything known seems like making it (for the moment) improbable:
https://www.schneier..._nsa_bre_1.html
though the removal of "elephant diffusion" may be worth of note :unsure:.
In any case this won't male a difference for Ankur.k1991 or his friend.

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 09:36 AM

Ok !!!

 

My friend got the key (From Seller) and Now laptop working fine.  :2nd:

 

 



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Posted 03 January 2016 - 07:17 PM

@ Anker.k1991: I'm glad to see you got BitLocker removed. I was in no way implying that you're a thief, I was merely putting forth the possibility that this could be the case. It is something that must be considered when people post this kind of thread online. It is, of course, also possible to buy a laptop from a seller that had forgotten they had BitLockered the drive without informing the buyer. But this would make me suspicious.

 

@ Zoso: I in no way made a direct statement accusing either the OP or his friend of theft: Analyze the following statements:

 

1. "In all likelihood your friend bought a laptop of dubious origin (i.e. stolen) and the thief didn't inform about BitLocker or hand over the password........because they didn't know it. For them the laptop is useless while passworded, so they sell it to an unsuspecting victim for money to fuel a drug addiction, etc".

 

Keywords: IN ALL LIKELIHOOD

 

2. "Unless and until the OP can provide conclusive proof that the laptop either wasn't illegally obtained or proof of ownership, then I would say no further efforts should be made to assist them."

 

Translate to: Not an accusation, just an assertion that no further help should be provided, beyond the advice to format the drive.

 

3. Zoso said: "the OP is not the one making the claim that it is stolen, burden of proof falls on the claimant."

 

Agreed, but since no claim was ever made by me, either directly or indirectly, then I am under no such obligation to prove anything.

 

4. Zoso said: "theoretically, the earth could be flat too and technically it requires a license to make a legal determination. (decode the codes)"

 

WTF?! I had simply stated that this site and its' owner could be held legally liable if the authorities determine that OP had obtained the laptop illegally (which is true). And then you come way out of left field with a totally unrelated statement. Besides, famed astronomers Copernicus and Galileo already posited centuries ago that the earth isn't flat, and provided preliminary proof for their belief. Therefore your statement is invalid. A license? By who? Who would be authorized to issue said license?

 

5. Zoso said: "or that real men or women acting as agents for legal fictions may have also."

 

What a great laugh/grin you put on my face. There is undeniable proof that agencies such as the NSA exist, any rational/logical person would agree. Or maybe you are one of those nihilist or non-existentialist (opposite of existentialism) types that believe that nothing is real, life is an illusion, and that life serves no real purpose, etc.

 

6. Zoso said: "for I concur, the "system" does indeed operate on presumptions and therefor I think it is best to properly rebut those presumptions."

 

All of life operates on assumptions/presumptions, especially assumptions made by humans, yet it is partly necessary for our survival for us to make certain assumptions. Such as:

 

When you walk out your front door in the morning, you generally don't suddenly think that the earth's soil will suddenly collapse beneath you, sending you falling thru the planet and into the cosmos.

 

Or, unless you're schizophrenic, that the sky is falling/will fall.

 

Etc..........

 

7. Zoso said: "Ive found it best not to "under-stand" the legal matrix overlay of any land myself. i; a man, have standing. i do not stand under legal fictions."

 

Then you just go around failing to understand and not wanting to understand "legal matrix overlay" of wherever you happen to be. See if I care. As far as I'm concerned it is best to study the laws of the land you're in, to understand what is considered right/wrong (irrespective of your personal beliefs), your rights under those laws, etc. You don't need to study the laws enough to be licensed as an attorney, of course. This is a large part of being a decent law-abiding citizen. You also need to understand civics. And it is an accepted norm in society. To know how your govt works. Etc.

 

8. Wonko said: "Sure, that's practice, but in theory you cannot seriously accuse Ankur.k1991's friend of being either a thief or a "fence", wouldn't that be a form of libel?"

 

Indeed it would, but only if I had in fact made an accusation against them. I'm under the assumption that libel is a written/printed accusation (contents on websites could be considered a modern form of printing), whereas slander refers to an accusation when spoken aloud.

 

 The U.S. criminal justice system handles more criminal cases than all other nations/territories in the world *COMBINED* on an annual basis. We have more people in prisons/jails/correctional facilities than everywhere in the world combined. While the justice system is to an extent designed to punish criminals who deserve it, is is also designed in such a way innocent individuals are exonerated by a judge/jury/prosecutors dismissing charges. Oftentimes conclusive proof/witnesses cannot be furnished, and so, even though I partly disagree with a jury/judge's right to determine innocence/guilt, this is an acceptable method upon which to operate, since it is sometimes the only way a case will ever be resolved. Our justice system has also been partly perverted by those who would seek to make a profit by incarcerating people for as long as possible, regardless of innocence or guilt. It has been known for years here that the federal govt makes payments to states/counties/municipalities to keep people incarcerated and build more facilities ("compensation"). This provides an incentive to keep locking people up. Police have arrest quotas they must fulfill, regularly engage in profiling, commit acts of brutality, set up things like "bait cars"/drug deals/etc to entice people into committing crimes that otherwise wouldn't have happened. Drug offenders are simply incarcerated and treatment is a last consideration. Sex offenders are let off the hook with lenient sentences sometimes, and violent offenders sometimes don't get nearly as harsh a sentence as they deserve. As if this weren't enough, people that have been like convicted but sincerely want to change and be law abiding citizens, are usually ignored or not helped. They try to get employment but most employers simply don't want to give a 2nd chance to an ex-con regardless of past history. Landlords oftentimes don't want to rent to these people. Many people released from incarceration end up homeless upon release, because their prison counselors failed to help them plan in advance. Some people go right back into the same cycle of crime because they know it is difficult to get help, stay clean of addictions, etc. It is a force of habit for them. Society in this nation expects criminals to serve their sentences and be law abiding citizens, but at the very same time constantly shortchanges them and doesn't provide adequate help/opportunities. Then they act surprised and superior when the cycle of crime keeps repeating itself. It is due to a lack of understanding, capitalism, and other factors. I could go on, but wanted to paint a brief picture.

 

@ Zoso: And at http://reboot.pro/to...ypto-challenge/, you proceeded to falsely make accusatory implications against me concerning things which I had not actually stated myself, but which were instead based on your personal beliefs/conceptions. Then accused me of being an "Internet tough guy", probably based on some mistaken interpretation of what my username means. And so I believe you to be someone that is delusional, ignores things that have clearly proven to be either true/false in favor of your own opinions, prematurely jumps to conclusions without proper evidence, has a superiority complex, is most likely into some off-the-wall religious/spiritual BS that emphasizes ignoring logic/reason/rationality in favor of simply taking something as-is, and believing anyone outside of yourself/your group (that disagrees with you) to be "wrong" and an "enemy". I'm spiritual/philosophical myself, so I have nothing against those things at all. You clearly don't understand or refuse to try to understand proper English and grammar, and draw conclusions (about others) and as a result make statements about others based on your own twisted beliefs rather than considering what they have actually said themselves.

 

Someone may say as a rebuttal that I recently accused Wonko of being a spammer, and so I still would say that maybe he had no intention to spam, but in fact did so anyway​ as a result of his failure to not spam-click "Submit" multiple times. The forum may have been down, but I still believe it very unlikely that this forum would auto-post several identical topics by Wonko *if* he had not been careless/impatient (which is what I would say was probably the case). So he is not a spammer, per se, but the end result is that, intentional or not, the forum was spammed with several identical topics. Which would effectively make him a spammer for those particular topics.

 

If it appears that I have hijacked this topic (despite it being resolved) to turn it into a personal attack vector, then people may believe what they will and I don't/won't care, but I have simply did so in part to satisfy a personal vendetta/dislike against certain people, but mostly to put forth my opinions and what I consider to be valid points​.



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Posted 03 January 2016 - 07:54 PM

instead of shooting @'s, why not use a friendly greet instead.

hi everyone,


seems to me that there is a very good reason that forums such as this one have a quote feature/button. i see some quotation marks being utilized above but Im not sure what the author is attempting to convey or if there is a proper way to respond to it, so for now, i think it best not to.

I do like quotes though so here one from my favorite movie that seems fitting:

"Some people are not ready to leave the matrix, others will fight to protect it" -morpeous

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 08:06 PM

Why? Because I prefer to use @s instead of greetings. Why would I want to greet someone like you anyway? I don't even like you.

 

I should have used the quote function, but didn't being in a hurry and such. I used quotation marks simple to quote what others or myself had said previously. It is my way of doing things. If you don't like it, I don't care.

 

The Matrix is apparently so much your fave movie that you can't even spell one of its' stars' character names correctly.........Morpheus. And BTW Keanu Reeves sucks as an actor, from what little I've seen of him.






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