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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:10 PM

Hi all, i have a 3.0 usb and i use grub4dos on it to boot iso files.

This is on my usb:

- grldr

- MESSAGE (contains my grapical display/background)

- menu.lst

- some ISO's.

- Windows-8.iso

 

now i have this problem, i want to install windows 8 on my HP Pavillion 17 laptop (64 bits NL (dutch) version)

but it always gives me a error saying cant install becoase there are no drivers found.

 

this is in my menu.lst:

debug off
gfxmenu /message
configfile (bd)/menu.lst

title Paragon Backup & Recovery
map /Paragon.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)

title Installeer Windows 8
map /Windows-8.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)

title Installeer Windows XP (Slipstream)
map /Windows-XP.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)

title Windows starten
root (hd1,0)
chainloader +1

title Computer opnieuw opstarten
reboot

title Computer uitschakelen
halt

what is the right command to install windows 8 on my harddrive.

or is there something else wrong?

 

the iso is correct becoase i can install windows 8 with a CD, but i want to do it with usb.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:28 PM

Right now i think i need to extract the iso into a folder onto my usb and then load/boot the setup.exe

does anyone know the menu.lst code to do that ?



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:11 PM

extract whole ISO to USB drive

 

title Win8 Setup

chainloader /bootmgr



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 08:55 AM

I just wanted to let you know i used to make this usb bootable with RMPrepUSB, maybe you could help me.

Now i have done what you told me to do and i get this error:

 

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 08:59 AM

Does \Boot\BCD exist?

You cannot extract the ISO files to a folder on the USB drive, you must copy them to the root of the USB drive.

 

\boot

\sources



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:08 AM

I forgot to post a image of my original problem, this picture is from the web in english, becoase i dont think you can read dutch  :book:

 

win8drivererror.jpg?w=604&h=270&crop=1

 

Yes it exist in: Windows-8\boot\bcd

why cant this work with a folder?

doesnt my laptop automaticly boot windows 8 if i extract it on the root of my usb, instead of grub4dos ?



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:11 AM

i have tested it and it works now, can i do this for windows xp to ?

what is the menu.lst code for it ?

 

 

is there also a other way to make this work with a iso?

so i just have 1 file on my usb and not all this extracted files..


Edited by ErikUSB, 13 October 2013 - 09:13 AM.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:13 AM

XP is more tricky.

 

Why not make an Easy2Boot USB MultiBoot drive. Then you can copy all the XP/Vista/7/8/SVR2012 ISOs you want to it and install any of them?

Also all linux ISOs, etc. too!



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:15 AM

and not getting this error ?

i have already tried it, but somehow it wont work, could you show how i can make this? and can i use my menu.lst for this with background or must i create a new one? with other commands.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:17 AM

My signature has all the links you need, including videos and full instructions.

You can use any background you like - watch the video!



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:31 AM

ah i see.

what i want is the minimum files on my usb drive.

with grub4dos i have just grld, menu,lst and message + iso

 

now i will get autounattend, unattend, readme (i could remove right?) grldr, menu.lst, _ISO

and in this ISO are allot of files.

could you tell me if i can delete many of them so my iso's still work.

 

what about removing autounattend and unattend, where are they for?


Edited by ErikUSB, 13 October 2013 - 09:31 AM.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:12 AM

readme can be removed. You can remove some files under \_ISO - e.g. docs folder.

xml files are needed for Win7/8 etc. ISO installs - that is why you do not get a 'CD/DVD drive driver missing' error with E2B!

 

You can have two partitions on a flash drive and keep all E2B files on the 2nd partition that way they will be hidden from a Windows user - but you must swap back the partitions using a menu entry before you run a Win7/8 ISO install.

 

You can also set the file attributes as 'Hidden+System' if you like so they are not easily seen by a Windows user.

 

If were going to extract the Win8 files - that would create a load of extra files and folders anyway...??


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:41 AM

i have it working, only i cant get my own menu in it, just the background.

all those submenus i dont want.

my old grub4dos was simple, just boot, you see menu and you boot iso's. (no debug info and all)

how can i use windows xp iso on grub4dos not E2B ?



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:50 AM

http://www.rmprepusb...-xp-from-an-iso

 

but does not have auto-mass storage driver feature.

 

E2B is configurable. You can remove all the menu options if you want - just read the documentation and make your own MyE2B.cfg file.

To add you own menu entries, just add a .mnu file with your entries in it to \_ISO\MAINMENU.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 01:41 PM

Yheah thank you for the trouble my friend.

I am thinking about deleting my own iso of xp slipstream that i use for the last 10 years, and go to windows 8 and slipstream this one acording to my likings.

 

So all i want to have right now is, windows-8.iso to install without extracting it onto my usb, with grub4dos is this possible?

or maybe if i put it all under 1 folder (extracted) and then boot it with a command? how ?



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 02:39 PM

So all i want to have right now is, windows-8.iso to install without extracting it onto my usb, with grub4dos is this possible?

No, it's not possible. Ät least without addional files.
Read given links for a work around.
 

or maybe if i put it all under 1 folder (extracted) and then boot it with a command? how ?

No, it's not possible.

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 03:02 PM

http://www.rmprepusb...ials/firawiniso

 

This allows you to install from an ISO, but you need a bunch of extra files.

A similar technique is used in E2B.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 04:38 PM

so it is not possible to do this from a folder ? or even other partition of the usb.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:17 PM

so it is not possible to do this from a folder ? or even other partition of the usb.

Can we start again from scratch?

 

What are the results you wish to have?

Like:

  1. A multi-boot USB thingy capable of booting *anything*?
  2. A multi-boot USB thingy dedicated to be used as an install media only (for which OS?)?
  3. Something else?

 

And HOW would you like to get to that result, like:

  1. by running an automated tool?
  2. by learning how to setup the thingy manually? 

What other *needs* you have, like ;):

  1. I want to keep my current grub4dos setup and have nothing to do with a zillion automated menus Easy2boot creates

 

The error that you posted an English screenshot is most probably the Windows 8 equivalent to this Windows 7 issue:
http://reboot.pro/to...required-cddvd/

this particular issue can be resolved by using a "virtual" disk driver to mount the .iso.

 

Steve6375 "condensed" all the previous experience in the Easy2boot thingy which may anyway be more complex and do "more" than what you wish, i.e. while being a very "easy" solution it may be not what you are looking for, which you can find in previous Steve6375's tutorials and/or here on the forum.

 

:cheers:

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:28 PM

i want a usb that boots grub4dos with my own menu and GFX.

i only want install windows 8 from usb to laptop harddrive

and i want to boot paragon backup software, but this one already works.

i do not want any other menus like you wrote.

just plain and simple menu, select install windows 8 end it begins the install proces.

+ i want to boot it from a iso file or, my windows 8iso extracted into 1 smalle folder



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:38 PM

You cannot install Win8 from an ISO without extra files (or modifying the ISO and adding the files to it inside the boot.wim)

You cannot have an extracted ISO into one folder (again without extensive modification of the Win8 files and possibly source code!).

 

If you could do what you are asking for, don't you think that one of us would have done it? Why do you think we have to use 'tricks' like using AutoUnattend.xml or a flat-file boot from folders in the root to get it to work?

 

Tut 43 shows you how to have a grub4dos USB Flash drive and install from an ISO.

Why not follow that and then add you menu items and GFXMenu message file?



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:46 PM

Good, so all you need is the Windows 8 .iso and to use the info from the thread I gave you (see also the tutorial: http://www.rmprepusb...utorials/winiso ) or the tutorial Steve6375 posted a link to:
http://www.rmprepusb...ials/firawiniso

The key info is that you need a "virtual CD driver", the two tutorials above are (respectively) about using IMDISK or FIRADISK, but of course you can use other similar drivers, if you are going to do experiments.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:31 AM

ErickUSB

 

Or you can just make a WinPE ISO, I sugest: http://reboot.pro/topic/18917-mistype/

The resulting PE is very little about 160 MB

 

Copy the MistyPE.iso, Then add your Windows ISO to your USB and a little program:  http://www.msfn.org/...winntsetup-v23/

(I make an Isos file in the root of my USB and put all them inside this file with all my ISO's).

 

Procedure:

 

Make an entrance in your menu.lst for MistyPE:

 

title Run MistyPE\nBoots MistyPE from file Isos on USB
##ISO file must be contiguous on disk in this case, use Sysinternals contig.exe
map (hd0,0)/Isos/MistyPE.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)

 

Boot from it and go to your Isos file run WinNTSetup and select the Win ISO you want to install and where to.

 

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Edited by alacran, 14 October 2013 - 01:47 AM.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 07:11 AM

Hi, I'm your new friend come from China.

These days i met the same question.

Also i tried to use the "MEMDISK". (search "syslinux")

 

Now, I am trying to use the "MEMDISK" and "WinVBlock"(by the "Syslinux Wiki") to solve the same problem.

Maybe, searching the "WinVBlock" could help.

Good luck!



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 09:35 AM

I downloaded the WinVBlock zip file, but it does not got a RamXP.HDD file in it.






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