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#1 BustyLoli-Chan

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:29 AM

So I'm coming across a little issue...

I have one hard disk, it's an SSD

grub4dos is installed onto the MBR

Windows7 (NTFS file system) is installed onto the first partition of the disk (100 GB)

second NTFS file system (10GB) reserved for a web server is sitting on the back end of the disk

 

 

when I go to boot I am brought first the the grub info screen

after hitting a bunch of enters I come to

grub>

 

now at this point I need to (at least manually, and hopefully in the future "teach") grub to chainload my windows7

 

now windows7 is sitting on (hd0,0)

I can

 

root (hd0,0)

 

 

I can even

 

find --set-root/foo.txt

 

(my own tag file)

 

and I can even

 

find --set-root/bootmgr

 

and get (hd0,0)

 

now I can type

 

chainloader /boot

 

hit TAB

and see

that Boot bootmgr BOOTSECK.BAK are all available

 

but when I

 

chainloader /bootmgr

 

 

I get

 

Error 15: File not found

 

 

I've also tried to

 

chainloader (hd0,0)/bootmgr

Error 15: File not found

 

 

...

I know the file is there

I know it exists

 

I even made BOOTMGR

and boot/bootmgr

but none of them launch...

I don't know what to do

 

I can get my windows recovery disk and reinstall the windows loader to the MBR

but that's not what I want

I want grub to do it

 

why can't grub find the file that itself can find and see exists?

any ideas and help with this would be truly appreciated


Edited by BustyLoli-Chan, 17 January 2013 - 07:37 AM.


#2 Sha0

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:52 AM

Windows7 (NTFS file system) is installed onto the first partition of the disk (100 GB)

second NTFS file system (10GB) reserved for a web server is sitting on the back end of the disk

...

when I go to boot I am brought first the the grub info screen

after hitting a bunch of enters I come to

grub>

...

why can't grub find the file that itself can find and see exists?

any ideas and help with this would be truly appreciated

Why not share the errors messages?  Try sharing the output of geometry (hd0)  This could be a BIOS INT 0x13 limitation, since the HDD is so large.



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:56 AM

find --set-root/bootmgr

 

Wrong syntax. It lacks the required space. It should be

 

find    --set-root    /bootmgr

 

or even better

 

find   --set-root   --ignore-floppies   --ignore-cd   /bootmgr



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:08 AM

Why not share the errors messages?  Try sharing the output of geometry (hd0)  This could be a BIOS INT 0x13 limitation, since the HDD is so large.

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The geometry

 

 

Wrong syntax. It lacks the required space. It should be

 

 

find    --set-root    /bootmgr

 

 

or even better

 

 

find   --set-root   --ignore-floppies   --ignore-cd   /bootmgr

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the syntax seems fine

in fact... if I put the space... it fails

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the file is just there... but not found


Edited by BustyLoli-Chan, 17 January 2013 - 09:15 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:09 AM

when I go to boot I am brought first the the grub info screen

after hitting a bunch of enters I come to

grub>

Can you explain this? grub4dos usually just goes straight to the console shell if it cannot find a menu.lst file - so what messages do you get?

What version of grub4dos are you using (what is the date of the grldr file)?



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

Can you explain this? grub4dos usually just goes straight to the console shell if it cannot find a menu.lst file - so what messages do you get?

What version of grub4dos are you using (what is the date of the grldr file)?

I seem to be brought straight to the info dialogue

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I don't have access to the grldr, (The developer of the software that installs this loader said, "You won't find grub.exe or even a menu file as our versions built to be standalone. However, these types of bugs are all their issues as the standard G4D would have the exact same problem.")


Edited by BustyLoli-Chan, 17 January 2013 - 09:28 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

What software?

Standard grub4dos will work - therefore it is this 'software' that is the problem. Please tell us the whole story?



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:45 AM

What software?

Standard grub4dos will work - therefore it is this 'software' that is the problem. Please tell us the whole story?

To be perfectly honest

It's a software that injects SLIC into windows upon boot in order to trick windows 7 into believing that it is an activated OEM copy

 

Now I have used this software on machines in the past (even on this machine), with success, but I recently removed an old partition of windows from my hard disk drive since I noticed that apparently the system was still using it as its boot loader for some reason

I did not want this, and set out on a mission to "fix" it

 

The main system right now is installed on an SSD

So with the other drive (partition I should say) not wanted/needed I pretty much tore it out (formatted it) with gparted and I installed the default windows bootloader (without SLIC injection) onto the SSDs MBR)

 

Now when I booted windows it was no longer booting from grub with SLIC injection and it saw that it was ungenuine

So to fix it and trick it into believe it was genuine again I went to reinstall the loader

the loader installs grub4dos in it's SLIC injecty mode and reboots,

with one problem... it fails to chain load

and I've now been facing this mess for about 8 hours

 

 

worst case scenario I can reinstall the official windows boot loader and get into my ungenuine copy of windows

try to reinstall, mess around with stuff.. repeat

 

ideally, I get this loader to work and stay legitimately illegitimate

 

 

and at one point I almost did fork out the cash for windows, because of the headache involved in all of this, but it turns out a legitimate copy of Windows 7 Ultimate runs for about 320 USD, meanwhile... Windows 8 (the newest OS) retails for about 40...

I think I'll stick with my headaches and my illegitimate methods...

 

EDIT:

Even upon reconsidering, I can't even find a single place on the microsoft site that sells Windows 7

Everything is plastered with Windows 8 and that's seriously not an option


Edited by BustyLoli-Chan, 17 January 2013 - 10:03 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

We don't support illegal activities on this forum!



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:10 AM

We don't support illegal activities on this forum!

I honestly assumed this, which is why I didn't mention it until you asked...

most forums don't (at least not publicly) as a way of covering themselves in the event of legal action

 

 

but even if the bootloader were just a bootloader not one that injected SLIC or anything illegal like that

Why would something like this happen?

Why is the file there, but not found at the same time?



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:57 AM

Why would something like this happen?

 

Possibly because the grldr is too old and buggy. Also possible is that some normal features were disabled by the developer of the special grldr.

 

Too many possibilities.

 

Why is the file there, but not found at the same time?

 

It might be a bug in your version of grldr.



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:51 PM

Possibly because the grldr is too old and buggy. Also possible is that some normal features were disabled by the developer of the special grldr.

 

Too many possibilities.

 

 

 

It might be a bug in your version of grldr.

 

I'm told it was "compiled against chenall's source at r310" and that nothing was changed about it

 

 

but! Also related

with Debug 1

I get a lot of these

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and quoted from an old thread on here

 

 

The "affected" (actually it is by design :ph34r:) systems map internal hard disks as having a geometry of n/240/63 whils ALL USB enclosures/controllers will map a hard disk as m/255/63

tUx65.jpg

 

so perhaps this is entirely a geometry issue?



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 11:15 PM

I think it should not have big difficulties just trying out with the latest grub4dos release(chenall).







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