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#1 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:47 PM

I see that once again the so-called "friendly names" have been enabled on the board. :censored:
This makes 2/3 to 4/5 of all links to threads or posts posted on the board INvalid. :frusty:

It's not one of those days I feel like diplomatic (as I usually am ;)), so I will plainly state how IMNSHO doing ALWAYS THE SAME MISTAKE is plainly STUPID.

For those not being able to have working links, a link of the kind:
http://reboot.pro/index.php?showtopic=5041
is still working, while a link (valid until yesterday) of the kind:
http://reboot.pro/13675/
needs to be "converted" to the previous Syntax, i.e.:
http://reboot.pro/index.php?showtopic=13675

As well a link to this subforum, that was good until yesterday:
http://reboot.pro/forum/75/
needs to be "converted" to:
http://reboot.pro/index.php?showforum=75


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:02 PM

Great! :rolleyes:

Maybe we should just shoot the board and put it out of it's misery.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:41 PM

Maybe we should just shoot the board and put it out of it's misery.


It seems to me like the little poor thing :( is already under fire, and coming from all directions :ph34r:(including "friendly fire")

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:05 PM

We are already lucky to be running as it is. This morning I woke with the board offline, still didn't had time to restore the URL.

Mikorist did a great work, but still there is indeed a lot of fire coming onto the site every day. Sometimes it takes longer to bring things back to order.

Sorry about this.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:32 PM

We are already lucky to be running as it is.

Sure :), it's not that bad, it could be raining....
Spoiler


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:51 PM

Talking of server problems I recently aquired two Proliant servers, ML370 and 6400r, yes they,re old but what an Ideal place to start.
My first ever encounter with servers,
I like a challenge so my objective was to boot them up fully, both running Server 2003,
Just as a challenge as they were both password locked Admin and domain , I managed to get the 370 working but not the 6400r which has a 3200 Smart Array controller, anyone any ideas which driver I should use for this ???
Any answers appreciated, I have delibirately not mentioned the software/script I used, PM me if necessary ! Running out of Ideas.
P.S. cciss doesnt work.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:28 PM

@saddlejib
Talking of ideas, why don' t you start a new thread, aptly titled for your issue/problem/question like all other people do?
You know the old habit of having threads, and aptly titled at that, is because they normally tend to give better visibility to a question than a passing-by post on a completely unrelated thread.

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#8 Nuno Brito

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:29 AM

Resistance seems futile.. We will forcefully start using the "friendly" links by default.

In the current state, new upgrades to the forum break our functionality and give more hassle than advantages.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

Resistance seems futile.. We will forcefully start using the "friendly" links by default.

You do understand that:
  • this vanifies several years of work
  • seriously undermines the visibiity of the board as most external links and results of google, etc. will use NOT "friendly names"
  • that unless "fixed" the "friendly names" cause that when a thread has it's title changed ALL links to it become invalid
don't you? :unsure:


You do know:
  • that MSFN board - that uses the same software -had the same issue initially, and that was solved in such a way that BOTH "friendly names" and "normal" links work allright (besides the "canonical" ones)
  • the "offset" syntax (that does work perfectly on MSFN) does not work here at all
don't you?

In the current state, new upgrades to the forum break our functionality and give more hassle than advantages.

Really? :dubbio:
I must remember to post this under "news". :whistling:
http://reboot.pro/15275/
(just as a reminder ;), soon it will be Christmas time AGAIN :w00t:)



That the good guys developing the software are a bit tough (and definitely UNLIKE "friendly/open to listening") we already had some hints about:
http://reboot.pro/16746/
but still if the same software works on another board, there must be some settings that do work.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:13 PM

Hey! Someone better fix this url nonsense.
I just found out, that all my reboot.pro bookmarks get me a "Sorry ...." meassage.

I can live with (sort of) that 'going to unread post' doesn't work. But not that non of my rb.p bookmarks work anymore!

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#11 Nuno Brito

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:09 AM

Hey! Someone better fix this url nonsense.
I just found out, that all my reboot.pro bookmarks get me a "Sorry ...." meassage.

I can live with (sort of) that 'going to unread post' doesn't work. But not that non of my rb.p bookmarks work anymore!

Let's try to get this fixed. Can you please provide me with examples of URLs that were working before and don't work anymore?

I will use these examples to get them working.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:51 AM

As far as i can tell, all which point to a specific post and not just a thread are broken.
This still works: http://reboot.pro/9830/

Those do not. (hope i covered all variations)
http://reboot.pro/13...062#entry115062
http://reboot.pro/12...165#entry131058
http://reboot.pro/11..._90#entry123752
http://reboot.pro/13...249#entry120249
http://reboot.pro/8804/page__st__500

Interestingly, the old Boot-land shortcuts do not seem to have been affected.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

As far as i can tell, all which point to a specific post and not just a thread are broken.
This still works: http://reboot.pro/9830/

Those do not. (hope i covered all variations)

http://reboot.pro/13147/page__p__115062#entry115062

http://reboot.pro/12660/page__pid__131058__st__165#entry131058

http://reboot.pro/11898/page__st__90#entry123752

http://reboot.pro/13618/page__st__15__p__120249#entry120249

http://reboot.pro/8804/page__st__500


Interestingly, the old Boot-land shortcuts do not seem to have been affected.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:32 PM

This is a matter of testing and creating the correct rules on .htaccess to do these forwards.

Using the first link from your list as example, I suppose one single new rule for all links should work:
old: reboot.pro/13147/page__p__115062#entry115062
new: reboot.pro/topic/13147-test/page__p__115062#entry115062

When applying the changes in bold to all other links in your list, they work as intended.

Will later get this sorted, I'm not so experienced with regex rules.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 02:56 PM

Hi my friends,

If possible, I need your help in getting the RegEx combination right. Here is what is I have right now for .htaccess:

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/([0-9]+)./(|[0-9A-ZA-z#_]+)$

RewriteRule ([0-9]+) http://reboot.pro/topic/$1-read/$2 [R=301,L]



RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/forum/([0-9]+).(/)$

RewriteRule ([0-9]+) http://reboot.pro/forum/$1-read/ [R=301,L]

With this code, the broken links mentioned by MedEvil go to the correct topic, however they still don't go to the correct entry.

This is where I need help, if someone can advice on .htaccess regex rules do let me know.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 03:49 PM

Woild this be of help? :unsure:
http://corz.org/serv...s/htaccess2.php

Also, you could PM xper over at MSFN : there were there the SAME issues (including the ones about "post offset") and they were fixed.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 04:16 PM

Woild this be of help? http://corz.org/serv...s/htaccess2.php


That is a very straightforward tutorial, thank you.

Also, you could PM xper over at MSFN : there were there the SAME issues (including the ones about "post offset") and they were fixed.


Ok, will do. I have the feeling that the current configuration is close to be functional, just missing the final touch from an expert.

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