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[florin91]

So, you downloaded TeamViewer Quick Support. The file downloaded is an executable archive, extract it with 7-Zip. Inside it, you get $PLUGINSDIR and $[34]
Inside $[34] there is another $PLUGINSDIR and another tvqsfiles.7z archive. Extract it and you get executables and drivers for x86 and x64.

I hope I helped a bit! That was a quick inspection. I don't know if those drivers work in a pe or can be made to work.

[amalux]

Previous versions of Quick Support work in PE by adding avicap32 and sensapi dll's to system path (virtual e.g. ThinApp or real path) but what is the purpose? QS only allows another computer to connect, what is the point of remotely accessing a PE? It makes more sense to run TeamViewer from PE to access other machines.

[pscEx]

Has anyone been able to work out what other dependencies this programs requires?

Depends.exe tells you which other files are used by your app.

If they are not in the "Standard" PE files, your script has to add them to the build.

Caution: Do not just look whether they are in %target%.
It could be, that a different app script has added the file(s).
And when this different script is unselected next build ???

Peter

[amalux]

The Security team usually don't like dealing with newbies, like many forums.

Hey, not here! We love newbies around here

That's an interesting scenario I hadn't thought of, thanks for explaining.

[MedEvil]

Look into the log of teamviewer for what the problem is.

My guess it's the same as with the full package.
Read here: http://reboot.pro/16830/#entry153903

[MedEvil]

The problem is, that there is no Admin account in Win7PE_SE.

In the other thread, a few things are posted that might help.

[ChrisR]

Update: After copying the runas.exe to the runtime, I was able to make the shortcut, but it asks for the Administrator password and who know what that is.

I believe that there is no password by default for the administrator account.

On Win7pese, there's a thing for switching on the administrator account but it remains experimental
In the display script (tweaks folder), click on the Advanced options button and enable the 'Switch user'.
at startup, it will login into account system then automatically close the session to reconnect in administrator account (a bit long).
With "At startup automatically 'switch user'" enabled, the Administrator account is renamed to Admin (without password).

Log in as admin, I can have transparency, for example (as in this screenshot).



The solution is not ideal but it can perhaps help you.

[MedEvil]

Chris, wasn't it that the drivers needed to be installed before switching or they can't be installed, not to mention that transparency won't work without drivers installed first?

[ChrisR]

Yep, the driver must be loaded before switching and indeed without drivers, no transparency.

[SIW2]

In my build I can switch back and forth between Admin and System .

I can also load the drivers either way as described on this thread http://reboot.pro/16830/

#29

It works fine for me in both my x86 and x64 builds.

I am using pecmd and my build is not the same as Chris project.

If I get time I will have a look and see if I can get it to work in win7 pese.


I think if you use the Switch User option in Chris project when you make your build , then put in batch equivalents of my pecmd scripts - it should work.

I am not sure what you have in your builds to handle the Switch User option from the shutdown button?

Edited by SIW2, 14 June 2012 - 05:05 PM.

[MedEvil]

When you're loged into the Admin Account, can you still install drivers, does sidebar and wallpaper still work?

If you like to know, what's different, to get the switch user and the log off option, just get the script pack from dera, i linked to, and use them instaed of the original ones. Might even work, if you run them after the original ones, but not sure.

[SIW2]

The pecmd script relaunches explorer as system first - then installs the drivers ,transparency comes in after stop and start uxsms .it is quite quick and is all part of one little script.


It might work as a regular.cmd file something like this:

::Restart shell under system -there should be no space between system32 and tskill
%windir%system32 tskill explorer
%windir%system32psexec -i -d -s explorer
::load drivers
drvload.exe X:WindowsSystem32DriverStoreFileRepositorynv_lh.inf_x86_neutral_bbe628dbdd6fce25nv_LH.inf
drvload.exe X:WindowsSystem32DriverStoreFileRepositoryatiilhag.inf_x86_neutral_1d882551ede2c65batiilhag.inf
drvload.exe X:WindowsSystem32DriverStoreFileRepositoryigdlh.inf_x86_neutral_2d255f193700d214igdlh.inf
::stop and start uxsms
net stop UxSms
net start UxSms

Edited by SIW2, 14 June 2012 - 06:24 PM.

[MedEvil]

Why do you restart explorer in the system account? It's already running in the system account. when PE boots up.
Or is this different in your PE?

[amalux]

Trying to follow along...

This gets me from system to admin (TV7 and QS working OK)

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogonSpecialAccountsUserList" /v HelpAssistant /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f >NUL

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogonSpecialAccountsUserList" /v Guest /t REG_DWORD /d 000000 /f >NUL

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon" /v AutoAdminLogon /t REG_SZ /d 1 /f >NUL

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon" /v DefaultUserName /t REG_SZ /d "Administrator" /f >NUL

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon" /v DefaultUserName /t REG_SZ /d "LsaSetupDomainAdministrator" /f >NUL

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon" /v DefaultPassword /t REG_SZ /d "" /f >NUL

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon" /v DefaultDomainName /t REG_SZ /d "DOMAIN" /f >NUL

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon" /v ForceAutoLogon /t REG_SZ /d 1 /f >NUL

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon" /v StartMenuLogOff /t REG_SZ /d 0 /f >NUL

tsdiscon

and this gets me back to system

pskill explorer

psexec -i -d -s explorer

(of course I have the pstools setup in my PE)

So this seems to be a fine solution to TV7/QS.

Now I'll look into the transparency bit...

[SIW2]

Hi ,

Why do you restart explorer in the system account? It's already running in the system account. when PE boots up.
Or is this different in your PE?

It was in answer to this:

When you're loged into the Admin Account, can you still install drivers, does sidebar and wallpaper still work?

The answer is , no - the pecmd script above - puts you back in system first , then loads drivers, then stops and starts uxsms.

Edited by SIW2, 15 June 2012 - 01:10 AM.

[SIW2]

@Amalux.

Yes that is the equivalent to what I have been doing with pecmd script.

There is another way:

It is easier with pecmd - but it does work with Win7PE_SE_20120416 like this:

Under Tweaks, tick "Display"
in the script section on the right, tick "enable switch user" - I did not tick "At startup automatically switch user"

Under the Drivers tab, tick "original display drivers"
in the script section on the right, tick your driver ( or all 3 if you like ) - tick start menu box - I did not tick load at startup.


I think Chris normal way is :

1.Load your driver- ( using shortcut in start menu )
2.Switch to admin - ( either with switch user start menu shortcut, or switch user under shutdown button)
3.Switch back to system - (using Restart shell as system shortcut in start menu.)

You can't then go back to admin acct with switch user shortcut or by using switch user under shutdown button.

You can go back to admin with ctrl+alt+del, logoff.

You can then return to system with Restart shell as system shortcut - switch back and forth at will.

It is also possible to load drivers and get transparency after your first admin login like this:

Switch back to system using Restart shell as system shortcut, then run this

Relaunch.cmd:

"X:Program FilesPEShellPEShell.exe"
:: again - there should be no space between system32 and tskill
%windir%system32 tskill explorer
%windir%system32psexec -i -d -s explorer
drvload.exe X:WindowsSystem32DriverStoreFileRepositorynv_lh.inf_amd64_neutral_bc69f20e3115af59nv_LH.inf
net stop UxSms
net start UxSms

Works fine here - ( tho on one attempt I did end up with two instances of peshell running, one as admin and one as system.)

Edited by SIW2, 15 June 2012 - 01:13 AM.

[SIW2]

Ooops correction- posted the wrong file- the .cmd file should be only these three lines:

drvload.exe X:WindowsSystem32DriverStoreFileRepositorynv_lh.inf_amd64_neutral_bc69f20e3115af59nv_LH.inf
net stop UxSms
net start UxSms

Obviously it needs to point at your graphics driver. That one is for nvidia 64 bit

[amalux]

Hi SIW2

I had some troubles with your examples but saw what you were trying to do; thanks for pointing the way

[SIW2]

Glad you got it working - what build are you using your reg file in?

[amalux]

This one: http://www.mediafire...u9fztu4y4nnmb2p with the following changes. In Tweaks -> Display script, I enabled 'switch user' option; auto switch at startup is off because it caused problems. In fact, I don't use the switch user shortcut but rather the batch script to avoid manual login (logon?).

I have had troubles with this script's advanced options, most leaving me stuck at a login screen asking for a password I don't possess; unable to logon to Admin or Guest user offerings. I don't understand this behavior and assume the script is broken, ChrisR did say the thing was experimental

I have, as yet, not been able to get transparency working. I don't understand what driver is required; the ones you cite are obviously specific to your system. I don't have corresponding drivers in my source which are compatible with my old video card (transparency is not supported on this machine even in full Windows 7). I'm going to try on a different machine which does support transparency in Windows 7.

[MedEvil]

The answer is , no

Was just wondering if you got things working better than dera.

[SIW2]

Hi Amalux,

I use the standard drivers that are already in the win7 dvd.

Just copy them to Filerepository of your pe3 build.

Load them after you have booted up - these are 32 bit drivers on the dvd

WindowsSystem32DriverStoreFileRepositoryatiilhag.inf_x86_neutral_1d882551ede2c65batiilhag.inf
WindowsSystem32DriverStoreFileRepositoryigdlh.inf_x86_neutral_2d255f193700d214igdlh.inf
WindowsSystem32DriverStoreFileRepositorynv_lh.inf_x86_neutral_bbe628dbdd6fce25nv_LH.inf

If your video card drivers are not one of those - you might find you you can't load them in pe - it might require a reboot.

Those 3 above work for most setups.

Edited by SIW2, 15 June 2012 - 11:44 AM.