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#1 MedEvil

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:44 PM

How could we miss this earthshaking event?
The release of a new C64 after more than 2 decades!

http://www.commodore...t/CUSA_C64.aspx

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:10 PM

Hi Medevil,

Since these grand news are not directly pertinent to the site, I have moved your topic to the hardware museum forum section.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:42 PM

Unbelievable find. I know, Wonko will be happy with the upgrade. :idea:

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:58 PM

Unbelievable find. I know, Wonko will be happy with the upgrade. :idea:

Not at all, as you have been told by now several times, Wonko never used Commodores, never liked them, and there is no reason to change his mind now.
Should there be a new QL release, that would be interesting :smiling9:.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:14 PM

Since these grand news are not directly pertinent to the site, I have moved your topic to the hardware museum forum section.

Hardware museum? This computer was released in mid 2011 and is capable of running Windows7!



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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:18 PM

Well:
http://www.commodore...t/CUSA_C64.aspx

It houses a modern mini-ITX PC motherboard ....


Let's say it does not really belong to "New ideas" ;):
http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/c64/

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:25 PM

Hardware museum? This computer was released in mid 2011 and is capable of running Windows7!

According to me, things from 2011 belong on the museum. Good as relics from an interesting past.

Friendly advice, within some 30 years from now don't use the services from low-costs like RyanTimeFlight. They promised I'd go back 80 years in time for just 8999 European Dollars, but then felt short on their time estimations and now won't even listen to my complaints.

So, I'm left to put up with facebooks and keyboard-based computers for the next 10 years.. :glare:

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:27 PM

That's what it looks like inside.
http://i52.tinypic.com/28tgtom.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2017hv.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/30xit7m.jpg

And opposite to the build you linked to, the keyboard actually works.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:37 PM

:lol: They give a completely new meaning to barebones.

Look here: http://www.commodore..._C64Select.aspx

It's just the casing and the keyboard. For 349$!

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:38 PM

And opposite to the build you linked to, the keyboard actually works.

Wow, that's great :yahoo:, I would have never thought that an industrial manufacturer and it's engineers designing a new (BTW IMHO completely pointless if not for the C64 nostalgics) PC could manage to do better than a single guy with a hacksaw, a dremel and a small set of tools in his basement modifying some scrap parts he had around... :whistling:

It's just the casing and the keyboard. For 349$!

...and wait for the price of the Amiga reborn :ph34r::
http://www.computera...h-end-pc-range/

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:46 PM

Everyone around in the 80ies probably remebers, that those of us having a C64 were envyed by the ones, who had to put up with a VIC.

But i'd drop the new C64x for the new VIC Slim any day!
http://www.commodore...SA_VICSlim.aspx

@Wonko
Can you also give a link to someone, who has done that before with an ITX board? ;)

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:37 PM

Can you also give a link to someone, who has done that before with an ITX board? ;)

What "that"?
Fitting a mini-itx in an old model with a working keyboard using the old keyboard like this:
http://www.mini-itx....ojects/bbcitxb/
or installing in it a new keyboard like this:
http://www.mini-itx....jects/atari800/

Or fitting something else inside a keyboard?
http://hacknmod.com/...nto-a-keyboard/

Or more examples using a Commodore case:
http://www.amibay.co...ead.php?t=17728
http://www.techarena...39-c64-bit.html

BTW, and JFYI look what these German guys sell ;):
http://www.vesalia.de/e_keyrah.htm

or making a brand new pc in a keyboard form factor?
http://www.alibaba.c...eyboard_PC.html
http://www.cybernetm...-pc/Keyboard-pc
http://news.softpedi...ard-81532.shtml

or making a brand new pc fitting in a keyboard form factor and adding to it something else?
http://www.amazon.co...wwwgizmagcom-20
http://news.cnet.com...10286555-1.html


BTW expect great news from commodore usa guys (still not a really-really new idea):
http://www.gizmag.co...er-plans/16260/

Personally I'll wait until the new Commodore OS is released:
http://www.commodore...USA_Vision.aspx

"the latest and greatest Personal Computer Hardware and Operating System technology available today."

Our modern day AMIGA incarnation will feature "Commodore OS", a distinctive, attractive, advanced and stable Operating System experience, that will come pre-loaded with dozens of the latest and greatest productivity and creativity software the open source world has to offer. Featuring dozens of exciting 3D games, the latest web browsing technology, a Microsoft Word compatible Office Suite, advanced graphical manipulation programs, 3D ray-tracing software, advanced software development tools and languages, photo and movie editing and sound and music composition programs, there is no task too big or too small for a Commodore or AMIGA to accomplish. Commodore OS will also be classic Commodore compatible, with the ability to run classic 8-bit, 16-bit and 32-bit era software via emulation. All our machines will also provide optimum software flexibility with the optional extra to run Windows software either from a dual boot menu at start up, or seamlessly integrated within Commodore OS itself.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:20 PM

You're THE Finder!
Didn't knew that there existed other KeyboardPC, much less that they are already on sale.

Yes without the CommodoreOS, it's just another PC and that at a pretty steep price.
But i consider their approach to be better, than all the Amiga revamps, that put the computer into a PC tower case.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:29 PM

I just figured, i don't buy a Commodore.
I save my money for one of those: http://www.gizmag.co...picture/156098/ ;)

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:49 PM

I just figured, i don't buy a Commodore.
I save my money for one of those: http://www.gizmag.co...picture/156098/ ;)

That's the OLD model :w00t: with three lousy 19" screens, new trend in workstation chairs is curved panoramic screen:

http://www.pcworld.c...ng_display.html

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:11 PM

Love the setup with the 3 curved screens. If that becomes affordable, i might give gaming a second try. ;)

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:24 PM

new trend in workstation chairs is curved panoramic screen:

Wonko's definition of "new" is a bit fuzzy... The guy commented in 2009: "you could buy five 40" 1080p tv's and the video cards to run the whole mess for roughly the same cash ($6500)." :)

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:39 PM

Wonko's definition of "new" is a bit fuzzy... The guy commented in 2009: "you could buy five 40" 1080p tv's and the video cards to run the whole mess for roughly the same cash." :)

Sure you could buy separate monitors, just like the Emperor's workstation has, but you would have segments and not a curved, continuous screen.

The comment you cited is obviously from a reader of the linked to article,using nick "boden" i.e. not "The guy", and is nothing but a senseless truism.

Just like a post on a site about the new Mercedes class "x": "Ha! You can get 4 little Fiats for that amount of money".

Future will probably bring us three curved screens made into one, at a resolution of 8640x900 or better.

The comparison on the site is nice:
http://www.crvd.com/why.php

They also evidenced, for the less technically knowledgeable people one of the main differences:

Interrupted image
Bezel and screen gap interfere with image.


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:48 PM

The comment you cited is obviously from a reader of the linked to article,using nick "boden" i.e. not "The guy", and is nothing but a senseless truism.

I wish he could comment on your assessment of his abilities to express himself, and your findings on his gender. :lol: I don't think its fare to tell such things about people who can't reply to you.

The display itself is interesting, though the price shouldn't differ that much, given employed technology seems to remain the same.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:06 PM

The display itself is interesting, though the price shouldn't differ that much, given employed technology seems to remain the same.


Actually it is a completely different technology, as (very well hidden in the FAQ's):
http://www.ostendo.c...ort/faq.php?c=1

Q. Why does the CRVD have a depth?
CRVD uses multi-projection technology powered by RGB LEDs, hence a certain distance is required for the image to be formed and projected on to the screen. Multi-projection is the only way that is currently feasible and available to develop a continuously curved display like the CRVD. Ostendo is always searching for new ways to improve the performance of its products and will implement such improvements as they are feasible.


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:19 PM

I was assuming they just used curved press-forms, while screen and ICs remain the same. Apparently, there is a new projection approach to it. Would be nice to see if similar approach can eliminate the need in glasses in 3D displays. However, this approach is probably centered around work places and gamers, since in a living room its impractical due to various viewers locations. Say, a stock exchange workplace may benefit from such display, hence the price (and low production volume of course).

You shouldn't speak in a rude manner about other people though, who can't reply to you. :thumbdown: This damages forum reputation, and can reflect on its popularity.




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