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#1 Nuno Brito

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 10:55 AM

Do you like reboot.pro and would like to help? Then here are some things you can do help.


Write a review

You can write a review about our community at Alexa, the worldwide website ranking service or write blog post about your experience about what we do around here.

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#2 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 07:59 PM

Write a review

You can write a review about our community at Alexa, the worldwide website ranking service or write blog post about your experience about what we do around here.

Would it be advised to add in the review one's opinion on Alexa ranking ? :dubbio: :unsure: :ph34r:


Could you make a video illustrating how to write a review ? ;) :whistling:

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#3 sambul61

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 11:59 PM

For some Alexa ranking means nothing, while others (already) collected billions of dollars off this ranking.

Hope, everyone understands how to translate "billion" into real life "features" - no video needed. :money:

This website IMHO is a valuable source of info, and its a good idea to support it any way we can. :photo:

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:49 AM

For some Alexa ranking means nothing, while others (already) collected billions of dollars off this ranking.

Really? :dubbio:
How did they make these big bucks? :unsure:

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 12:41 PM

Ask advertisers, why they prefer to place ads on these sites... :dubbio: Then look at each of these sites' published annual reports and owner's financial status. After that you're free to use yet non-patented Wonko's Analytics Engine (if any). :victory:

Website Monetization - there's nothing wrong in striving to lawfully achieve financial glory, no matter how you slice it.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 12:58 PM

Ask advertisers, why they prefer to place ads on these sites... :dubbio: Then look at each of these sites' published annual reports and owner's financial status. After that you're free to use yet non-patented Wonko's Analytics Engine (if any). :victory:


If I wanted to ask them I would have asked them allright, rest assured, I was instead asking you if you have DIRECT, PERSONAL, data to backup your statement about the "others" (whomever they might be) that " (already) collected billions of dollars off this ranking" and if you were willing to share such information, including any available info about the RELATIONSHIP between the Alexa rank and the big bucks.

This seems to me - but if you have any meaningful data I am well ready to change my opinion :) - that it is an issue very similar to the egg and the chicken.
Are you really sure that site with Rank #1, i.e. Google has made big bucks BECAUSE it is rated #1 in Alexa (or would it be possible that it made big bucks "somehow else" and that it was listed as #1 BECAUSE it ALREADY made big bucks (offering web based servces, including it's Search Engine)? :unsure:).

Or, if you prefer, do you think that Google has it's volume of traffic BECAUSE it is #1 in Alexa? :dubbio:

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 01:04 PM

I would compare Website Monetization phenomena with a ROLLING SNOWBALL effect rather than EGG & CHICKEN dependencies. :beer:

Well, even if you wanted to ask leading web advertisers about their ad sites selection preferences, they might not be willing to talk with you. :dubbio: This privilege is reserved for members of forums like this - be realistic pls, and value this opportunity to express yourself for free. :)

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 03:18 PM

Well, even if you wanted to ask leading web advertisers about their ad sites selection preferences, they might not be willing to talk with you. :dubbio:

Sure :smiling9:, I never pretended that they would answer me, what I said was that if I wanted to ask them I would have done so, INSTEAD I asked you, since you made a statement without providing any meaningful detail.
Of course you are perfectly free to answer my question or ignore it, though this would confirm once again how you are here mostly to disseminate your pearls of wisdom which you arbitrarily assume as being so apodictical that they never need any explanation or data to support them.

This privilege is reserved for members of forums like this - be realistic pls, and value this opportunity to express yourself for free. :)

Yep :), this is why I asked you some info about your statement for which evidently you have NO backup whatsoever :whistling: (or you have them but you decided to NOT answer my question :dubbio:)


BTW, it is well possible that people mananging billions of advertisement budget are so gullible as to trust such a meaningless thing as Alexa rank is (IMHO), but wouldn't they be aware how you can seemingly "buy" some Alexa traffic?:
http://www.gettytraffic.com/
http://www.fulltraffic.net/alexa
http://www.signups.m...teed_alexa.html

Or are the above example simply fakes? :ph34r:

Another (very small scale) example/experiment that hints that Alexa is just b*ll§h1t:
http://w3blog.dk/seo...r-anything.html

Now, this is interesting:
http://www.buytrafficguide.com/
someone making (big? :unsure:) bucks for giving advice on people who make (big? :unsure:) bucks by increasing Alexa Ranking which makes (big? :unsure:) bucks by making "others" make (big? :unsure:) bucks..... :w00t:

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 04:02 PM

That's why I always enjoy communicating with you (while the opposite isn't necessarily true) and utmost value your generous Insightful-Sanity® lessons. :good:

Of course, this world is not perfect, and in its every corner the same order is in place: there are two sets of rules - special for rich & powerful and generic for everyone else. I was talking about the "generic" ones. But since you're rich and powerful, though "grumpy and cheap (but that is not relevant)", your vision is different from the Alexa counted masses'. :)

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 06:03 PM

That's why I always enjoy communicating with you (while the opposite isn't necessarily true) and utmost value your generous Insightful-Sanity® lessons. :good:

Actually you are not at all communicating with me.

I asked you a simple question and you completely failed to answer it, this is not "communicating".

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 06:58 PM

This is not a Q & A session, my dear, but a learning arrangements to take lessons from the (sane) MASTER. :dubbio:

How would you suggest a website owner (based on your huge practical experience :)) to make the website more popular in the eyes of an advertising bystander?

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 07:12 PM

This is not a Q & A session, my dear, but a learning arrangements to take lessons from the (sane) MASTER. :dubbio:

Good, then you are not communicating with me.

How would you suggest a website owner (based on your huge practical experience :)) to make the website more popular in the eyes of an advertising bystander?

Personally - but it's not at all my field of experience - I would suggest him/her to have better content in it and thus increase the number of visitors (real ones) as opposed to suggesting to increase a BIASed and meaningless ranking system.

Since you claimed that "others (already) collected billions of dollars off this ranking" I am very interested to know who they are, and more generally have from you some data to support your statement.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:09 PM

See - it goes along the same circle, as in our dialog. :)

First, a website strives to become more popular among advertisers by increasing its ranking by means available to the masses - i.e. using the ways you suggested and many others (its a whole new science now). Once it's collected enough cash to buy just about everyone, they buy a fair share of the ranking company to NOW control, what their ranking is - meaning ensuring stable revenue stream regardless of anything (more or less). Its like in our Carpenter's Union - entitlement depends on seniority. :dubbio:

For some old Masters, their seniority level should deliver some candy too, not only headache. :beer:

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:27 PM

See - it goes along the same circle, as in our dialog. :)

Actually there is NO dialog, and NO circle at all, as you insist on NOT answering me and going as usual on your own train of thought, babbling about something without providing anything to support your statements and more generally going off on a tangent....

I would say it's half-circle connected to a line (infinite) leading to nonsense.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 10:27 PM

I'm glad, you finally admitted it. :clapping:

Btw, last time you went to that Laundry and forget to empty your pants' pockets before dropping them into that nasty Washer - remember? When you finally took them out of that noisy Dryer, there was plenty of clean cash coming out of the pockets. :dubbio: That's how Wonko Inc. made startup capital. :)

On a serious note - what are you offering in place of hope to the forum runners? You claim the world we live in is corrupt - that's old news. Lets constructively help Reboot community the way we can. Similar way, it helps us when we need it. :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:43 AM

I just finished writing a review, and rated the site 5 stars :)

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 12:41 PM

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#18 sambul61

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 01:51 PM

I posted a Reboot.pro Review at Alexa some time ago, but it says "Your review of reboot.pro is being processed".

Wonder, if someone needs to approve a site review before its posted on Alexa - possibly the reviewed site's owner or Alexa stuff?


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