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#1 Nuno Brito

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 11:39 AM

Hello!

We now have a forum section dedicated exclusively to WinBuilder projects based on Windows 8.

You find it at http://reboot.pro/forum/133/

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 12:43 PM

Hi Nuno Brito ;)
May be small but a big step to the future. I wish good luck to everyone for new projects. Because the people of this forum deserve better projects. Best regards :hi:
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 02:03 PM

Nice idea, I was thinking about a Windows boot for Windows 8 earlier today. Microsoft developers at the BUILD conference in Seattle were actually given 32GB USB keys with portable Windows 8 on them. I'm still wondering how you'd be able to put Windows 8 on a USB, but I heard about something which they've now named "Windows 2 Go"?
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 02:06 PM

Yes, running Windows from USB is getting a whole lot easier. Comes late when compared to other OS but still a very desirable feature.

I am downloading the Windows 8 preview as we speak. Will try out later tonight at my personal computer to see how it works.

Thanks for the screenshots you posted earlier.

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 02:48 PM

It might be a good idea to add Windows 8 branch to Windows Support section too. Otherwise ppl will randomly place Win 8 testing & 1-st impressions staff everywhere. :)
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 02:53 PM

Very good suggestion. A new forum section was added at http://reboot.pro/forum/134/

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 03:12 PM

Thanks Nuno! May I kindly suggest to rename Windows 7 branch as Windows 7 / 2008 R2 to include Windows Server 2008 R2 into consideration. The Server is very popular among those who know its advantages over Win 7. :)

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 03:23 PM

Does it need to add the "R2", won't a R3 appear in the future?

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 03:43 PM

release number shouldn't be necessary.
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Posted 19 September 2011 - 03:48 PM

Also noted, there is already a section for Windows 2008, it was added with Vista: http://reboot.pro/forum/86/

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 06:06 PM

Wikipedia:

"Windows Server 2008 R2 is built on Windows NT 6.1, the same core operating system used with the client-oriented Windows 7". :)

It would simply be more accurate not to mix up Vista and Win 7 cores, since there is significant difference btw 2008 and 2008R2 Servers setup, features and operation. That is obviously not related to Service Packs: now its SP1 for R2, there will be SP2... But there will be no R3, unless based on Win 8 core.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:52 AM

Since Vista and 2008 came out during the a very close time span, they were grouped together. A bit like XP and 2003.

Under 7 there is no successor for the server industry after 2008.

Funny enough that even the Windows 8 preview comes identified as NT 6.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 01:33 PM

Since Vista and 2008 came out during the a very close time span, they were grouped together. A bit like XP and 2003.

Under 7 there is no successor for the server industry after 2008.

Funny enough that even the Windows 8 preview comes identified as NT 6.

the version number for 8 is 6.2 where 7 is 6.1 and vista is 6.0
suggesting that 8 is considered and incremental update to Win7
if that interests anyone...

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 02:13 PM

Wow.. :huh: had never noticed that detail. How silly can this be?

Since XP came in NT5, Vista as NT6 then shouldn't Win7 be NT7 as well as Win8 use NT8?

Oh well.. Thanks for the tidybit of information.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 02:34 PM

XP was NT5.1!
Win2k was NT5.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 03:33 PM

I know that, but the point is that neither XP nor Win2K were called Win4 or Win5.

We did had a Win 3.5 and 3.11 along with a Win2 or Win1.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 04:04 PM

Windows timeline:
Windows 3.11
Windows 3.5
Windows 4.0
Windows 7
Windows 8
A long time later!
Windows 95
Windows 98

A long, long time later!

Windows 2000

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:10 PM

Windows NT timeline:
  • Windows NT 3.1
  • Windows NT 3.5
  • Windows NT 3.51
  • Windows NT 4.0
  • Windows 2000 (NT 5.0)
  • Windows XP (NT 5.1)
  • Windows XP x64 (NT 5.2)
  • Windows Vista (NT 6.0)
  • Windows 7 (NT 6.1)
  • Windows 8 (NT 6.2)

Nice Graphic ----> http://upload.wikime...Family_Tree.svg
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windows 7 isn't really even windows version 7 even if you only could NT based releases.
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 11:26 PM

One thing I don't like about Windows 8 is the explorer view, what happened to the navigational tree-view? I've disabled the metro UI on my Developers preview to get my Windows 7 style start menu back, but you loose the fancy task manager in doing so :(

Thanks for the NT timeline homes32 :)

-- I actually forced a BSOD on Windows 8 and noticed they tried to make it look less intimidating lol, I have a screenshot of it somewhere... I extracted the crash dump back over to my Windows 7 desktop for analysis and it seems nothing has changed with the log

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:19 AM

-- I actually forced a BSOD on Windows 8 and noticed they tried to make it look less intimidating lol, I have a screenshot of it somewhere... I extracted the crash dump back over to my Windows 7 desktop for analysis and it seems nothing has changed with the log

metro is garbage. very cumbersome and unproductive on a desktop PC

Haven't looked at the BSOD or crash reporting stuff yet. but Kernal panic will always take the cake for most intimidating death screen! :)

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 01:01 AM

I analyze crash dumps myself with a debugger. Although I would agree the Metro UI is nothing special for a desktop. I absolutely dislike it. They intended to build Win8 OS for an iPhone or something would be my first impression. I have disabled it, but without it, it's almost identical to Windows 7 again.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:34 PM

Is it possible to add a new Virtualization section to Windows Support section?

There will be progressively more forum publications coming about using VMs like Hyper-V, VMWare, Virtual PC, Qemu etc., booting virtual and physical disks in various environments, system deployment by using virtual disks, and virtualized computer infrastructure. So its better to gather all that material in a single section for easier accessibility.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 01:48 PM

Hi Sambul,

We already have a section entitled "PC Emulators" at http://reboot.pro/forum/62/

How about if we rename this section to "virtualization" and move it to the Windows section?

Or a new section makes more sense?

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 02:52 PM

Sorry, I missed it - for some reason its formatted in Plain text. IMHO, for now this section is enough, but renaming it to Virtualization would make it more intuitive and broden its scope. :)

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 02:54 PM

Done. :)





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