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#1 ylafont

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:53 AM

I created a script for Paragaon Mananger 11 (attached), however I am having a problem in loading hdm.dll; all the files have been copied to the build and the appliation splash screen (launcher.exe) starts up with no problems. However when I select one of the option of the splash screen it give me an "could not load hard disk manager library (hdm.dll)". the dll is in the applications folder. do i need to do something special to load when livexp loads?

Script - http://www.mediafire...a8605zz53teo6kn

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 01:25 AM

Forgot to add that when i try to register the dll within Livexp I get the following error Load Library error.

http://www.mediafire...w013d7jci4t2dcm

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 11:25 PM

Is there a script for this app? or does anyone know the problem?

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:51 AM

you missed at least 2 files in System32 folder.
Use installRite2.5 and search which files and registry entries are needed.
You can download InstallRite 2.5 as following link.
http://www.filewatch...113439.0.0.html

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#5 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:51 AM

"Paragon manager" is meaningless. :D

Paragon Hard Disk manager is a product.
Paragon Partition Manager is another product.

There should be .scripts around for older version, most probably by reviewing them you should be able to find the issue.

It is possible that that .dll needs to be registered. :cheers:

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 04:05 PM

Thanks for the response guys.

I initialy used InstallRite to gernerate the first report. Then I used WinInstall to double check. They were pretty much the same. I may have missed a file, but i don't think that is the case. I double checked the installation to make sure. This moring I extracted all the files from the Paragon MSI file (I havent compared them yet, will do that tonight.)

I think it has to do with the dll registtration just like Wonko suggest. I imported all the registry entries and have verified that they are in the livexp registry. I am doing something wrong,, have i missed a step?

Is there a proper method of registring a DLL, Shouild i be doing anything diferrently, I registrerd the DLL manually in liveXP, but recieve a load library error. Please le me know your thoughts


Thanks for all the assistance!

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 04:46 PM

It may also be related to some sub-system not running in the PE, like (just examples - don't take my word for this - WMI or VSS).

Maybe running Dependency Walker and profiling the app (once in the "working OS" and once in PE) may help. :frusty:

But still, is it "Paragon Hard Disk manager" OR "Paragon Partition Manager" ?

Running Regsvr32 should work, but not *all* .dll actually *need* to be registered, and some of these will also "say" so with an error.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 05:06 PM

It is paragaon Partition manager 11, (idiot me forgot the full tittle name)..

I am going to try the dependecy walker suggestions above tonight when i get home. Hopefully this will give me more hints on what the problem is.

thanks for the feedback.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 05:26 PM

The good news are that you are not the first one to fall for it. :whistling::
http://reboot.pro/6023/page__st__36

Do review also the "old version" .script, maybe you find something.
8.5:
http://reboot.pro/2008/

There used to be a 9 .script, but was lost in one of the internal boot-land wars:
http://reboot.pro/6023/page__st__34
maybe you can post a request, soem of the most aficionados VistaPE fans may have a copy. :frusty:

MInd you there may be others "around", *somewhere*.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:12 PM

Hi ylafont,

You might be right.
But my portable one doesn't need any file to register and working well.
May be wrong version :frusty:

1.jpg

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:29 PM

May be wrong version :whistling:

The screnshot you attached is for Paragon HARD DISK manager:
http://www.paragon-s...ess/hdm-server/

We finally got that ylafont is talking about Paragon PARTITION manager:
http://www.paragon-s...ness/pm-server/

Can you spot the difference? :frusty:

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:48 PM

That's why I've already mensioned that may be wrong version or something. :whistling:
Exactly, no need to register any file for Paragon Partition Manager 11 free edition.
Tested already so many times, :frusty:

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:19 PM

Good. :frusty:
You just introduced another variable. "Free edition" (vs. "Server").

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#14 Aye Htay

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 08:27 PM

You are just talking about variables :whistling:
I'm talking about my experiences :happy_dance2:
I've been using Paragon software many versions and editions with portable. No one is needed to register a file. So I thought logically, there should not need to register a file.
Unfortunately, I don't have the version he expressed. So I can't prove in this state. :white_flag:
Paragon HD Manager 9 professional:
9.jpg

Paragon HD Manager 10 Server.
10.jpg

Paragon Partition Manager 11 free edition.
11free.jpg

:buehehe:

ah

#15 Aye Htay

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 10:19 PM

That is a proof of my variables.
Paragon Partition Server 11 Demo version.
11.jpg

ah

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:14 AM

Very good. :white_flag:
Why you don't post your .script's for these you have working?
Maybe this way ylafont can spot what is missing from his one. :whistling:

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 12:13 PM

Hi JCZ,

It is a fun to play.
If I told which files are needed straight away, it was not interesting like that. :white_flag:
It needs only 2 files.
1. wnaspi32.dll
2. qtp-mt334.dll

Put into program folder and it is :whistling:
Sorry, forgot to answer.
I have no mood to create a script at the moment. But I did many in the past.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 12:25 PM

Also prgiso.dll

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 12:27 PM

You will also need to install a driver - hotcore3.sys - if you want Paragons hot processing to work. That one can be a challenge to get working in PE.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 12:46 PM

Perfect.
Thanks Paraglider.
PS - prgiso.dll is already in the program folder in later versions as I know.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:25 PM

I think we are all right on this one guys, Aye Htay was correct there awas a file missing. MSVCIRT.DLL is not included in the installation of "Partition Manager Server 11 (not free)". I took me a little time to figure out it was this file as depenndacy walker was also reporting that other files were missing like msjava.dll. I had to go back and forth between machines to see what files were installed on the clean machine and which were not and then compared them to the one in liveXP.

They were .Dll registry entries in the in the after snapshop of WinInstall. I imported then and one of those entry was HDM.DLL so i am not sure if it needed to be resistered.

I am cleaning up the script file and removing the help and other stuff they is not needed. Will posted it, once i am done.

thanks for everyone assitnace. I would have surrely not happened it you guys did not chime in. thank you.

Edited by ylafont, 24 May 2011 - 05:27 PM.


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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:31 PM

I took me a little time to figure out it was this file as depenndacy walker was also reporting that other files were missing like msjava.dll.

Sometimes reading answers to FAQ's does help, you know, like :cheers::
http://www.dependenc...er.com/faq.html

Q. Why is MSJAVA.DLL showing up in yellow (missing module) and I get a "Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found" message?
A. The MSHTML.DLL module that was released with Windows XP SP2 and Windows 2003 SP1 has a delay-load dependency on MSJAVA.DLL. Missing delay-load dependencies are not a problem as long as the calling DLL is prepared to handle the missing module. Dependency Walker flags all potential problems as it cannot detect if an application intends to handle the issue. In this particular case, MSJAVA.DLL is an optional module, and MSHTML.DLL is prepared to handle it. This warning can be ignored. See the "How to Interpret Warnings and Errors in Dependency Walker" section in help for more details.

:confused1:

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:12 PM

Ouch!

But you are right Wonko~

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 09:09 AM

Ouch!

Naah, don't feel bad :), I would say that half the people that ever used Dependency Walker has fallen for that, including yours truly ;).
Actually, I had used it on 2K for years without ever a problem, then the first time I had to use it on XP (already SP2) and I started getting the stoopid missing MSJAVA.DLL, it took me several hours before I realized that the info was there.


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Posted 25 May 2011 - 06:13 PM

I know it can most like use some improvements, But it works. I haven't gotten used to the scriting syntax.

here is the script for Paragon Partion Manager 11, in the event anyone needs it.


http://www.mediafire...4b6if44m4w1555c