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#1 Balubeto Balubeto

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 05:55 PM

HI

I have a computer with Windows XP Pro SP3.

Using Tftpd32 and grub4dos, I would like to create a PXE server to install XP Pro SP3 on the clients without using the RIS service.

How do I do this?

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#2 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 09:36 PM

You cannot :cheers:, but you can boot a PE of some kind and install from it "normally" with WINNT32.EXE or one of the other available installers (JFX/Fujianabc).
(or use DOS, install to FAT32 with WINT.EXE and later convert the volume to NTFS - NOT advised)

WHY not using RIS? :thumbup:

It was made for it. (Remote Installation Service).

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 12:36 AM

hydeist tried a method: http://reboot.pro/81...post__p__127781

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:28 AM

You cannot :cheers:, but you can boot a PE of some kind and install from it "normally" with WINNT32.EXE or one of the other available installers (JFX/Fujianabc).
(or use DOS, install to FAT32 with WINT.EXE and later convert the volume to NTFS - NOT advised)

WHY not using RIS? :thumbup:

It was made for it. (Remote Installation Service).

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How do I configure the RIS service on XP Pro SP3 because, on my LAN, I do not have a computer that has Windows Server?

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 02:09 PM

How do I configure the RIS service on XP Pro SP3 because, on my LAN, I do not have a computer that has Windows Server?

Maybe you can adapt Sherpya's work to your needs. I did; I use it on Windows instead of Linux... :thumbup: Ironic. I think I just needed Python.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 05:27 PM

Maybe you can adapt Sherpya's work to your needs. I did; I use it on Windows instead of Linux... :thumbup: Ironic. I think I just needed Python.


Sherpya has done a excellent work using a computer that runs Linux.

Has anyone done the same work using a computer that runs Windows XP Pro SP3?

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 05:39 PM

Sherpya has done a excellent work using a computer that runs Linux.

Has anyone done the same work using a computer that runs Windows XP Pro SP3?

Did you read this part of the post?

I use it on Windows instead of Linux... :thumbup: Ironic. I think I just needed Python.

I use Windows XP Pro SP2 as my "RIS server", using Sherpya's fine work.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 07:19 AM

The interesting part :buehehe: is that this thread started after Balubeto Balubeto already found diddy's guide:
http://reboot.pro/14401/
http://diddy.boot-la...t/pxe/index.htm
Which details, step by step, how to setup (among other things) a PXE RIS server by using Sherpya's BINL service and TFTP32 (NO need for a Windows "Server" edition) on a PC running Windows XP.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 08:08 AM

The interesting part :buehehe: is that this thread started after Balubeto Balubeto already found diddy's guide:
http://reboot.pro/14401/
http://diddy.boot-la...t/pxe/index.htm
Which details, step by step, how to setup (among other things) a PXE RIS server by using Sherpya's BINL service and TFTP32 (NO need for a Windows "Server" edition) on a PC running Windows XP.

:)
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Apparently, the procedure described here http://diddy.boot-la...xe/files/xp.htm requires a Windows Server with the RIS active. Am I wrong?

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 06:06 PM

Apparently, the procedure described here http://diddy.boot-la...xe/files/xp.htm requires a Windows Server with the RIS active. Am I wrong?

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Yes you are wrong. :clap:
And No, apparently the guide does NOT require a NT Server OS.
http://diddy.boot-la...files/intro.htm

This guide contains a detailed walkthrough with instructions for creating a tftp server using a Windows XP system. It has been based on Gianluigi Tiesi's "OpenSource Implementation of MS RIS Server"


The whole point is that by using Freewware tools you can have RIS working on a "normal" XP system (which acts as PXE and RIS server).

Or are you talking about the requirement of the 2003 files detailed here? :clap::
http://diddy.boot-la...les/xp_hack.htm

Maybe it applies only to grub4dos/pxelinux :clap:

Just in case, go here:
http://www.windowsdr...com/winner.html
and try it.

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 05:54 PM

I must download the LAN or LAN RIS DriverPack for XP?

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 07:26 AM

I have to download the LAN or LAN RIS DriverPack for XP so that XP Pro SP3 can recognize the network cards of the various client computers?

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 08:11 AM

I have to download the LAN or LAN RIS DriverPack for XP so that XP Pro SP3 can recognize the network cards of the various client computers?

That might help. If you use Sherpya's work, one of the programs parses .INF files and builds a database from it, for use with the Sherpya-"RIS".

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:50 AM

HI

I'm following the guide to manage the DriverPack_LAN-RIS package. But, when I run the "C:\PXE\tools\7za.exe e "D:\Documenti_pubblici\Server_PXE\tools\DriverPack_LAN-RIS_v10,11\DP_LAN-RIS_wnt5_x86-32_1011.7z" -o"D:\Documenti_pubblici\Server_PXE\temp" *.zip -r" command, the message


7-Zip (A) 9.20  Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov  2010-11-18



Processing archive: D:\Documenti_pubblici\Server_PXE\tools\DriverPack_LAN-RIS_v1

0,11\DP_LAN-RIS_wnt5_x86-32_1011.7z





No files to process



Files: 0

Size:       0

Compressed: 2248506


is displayed. Why?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:12 AM

Open the file in "normal" (GUI) 7-zip. :loleverybody:

Does it contain .zip files?

Or the format of the files inside was changed and they are not anymore contained in .zip files? :whistling:

Or maybe diddy used some "repacked" version? :smiling9:

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 11:06 AM

Open the file in "normal" (GUI) 7-zip. :w00t:

Does it contain .zip files?

Or the format of the files inside was changed and they are not anymore contained in .zip files? :cheers:

Or maybe diddy used some "repacked" version? :rofl:

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The structure of the DP_LAN-RIS_wnt5_x86-32_1011.7z archive is this:

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Now, how do I manage it?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 11:35 AM

You need to "evolve" and learn besides using the tools you have at hand, to understand the ideas behind a suggested procedure.

Let's see:
(original diddy's) #1:

Start a command prompt and extract all .zip files from DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z to C:\PXE\binl\temp\ by entering the following command -

C:\PXE\tools\7za.exe e "C:\PXE\tools\DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z" -o"C:\PXE\binl\temp" *.zip -r

This does:
  • get all .zip files inside C:\PXE\tools\DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z and put them into C:\PXE\binl\temp

Then (original diddy's) #2:

Extract .inf files from the .zip files extracted in the previous step to C:\PXE\binl\INF\ by entering the following command -

C:\PXE\tools\7za.exe e "C:\PXE\binl\temp\*.zip" -o"C:\PXE\binl\INF" *.inf -r
This does:
  • get from EACH .zip files inside C:\PXE\binl\temp\ all .inf files and put them into C:\PXE\binl\INF

Then (original diddy's) #3:

Extract all .inf files from C:\PXE\tools\DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z to C:\PXE\binl\INF\ (and rename any duplicate files) by entering the following command -

C:\PXE\tools\7za.exe e "C:\PXE\tools\DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z" -o"C:\PXE\binl\INF" *.inf -aour
This does:
  • get ALL .inf files inside C:\PXE\tools\DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z and put them into C:\PXE\binl\INF

Then (original diddy's) #4:

Extract all .sys files from C:\PXE\tools\DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z to C:\PXE\binl\DRIVERS\ (and overwrite any duplicate files) by entering the following command -

C:\PXE\tools\7za.exe e "C:\PXE\tools\DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z" -o"C:\PXE\binl\DRIVERS" *.sys -aoar
This does:
  • get ALL .sys files inside C:\PXE\tools\DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z and put them into C:\PXE\binl\DRIVERS

So, if you can sum up the above it resolves to:
Get ALL .inf files inside .7z files (no matter if inside a .zip file) and put them in C:\PXE\binl\INF
Get ALL .sys files inside .7z files and put them in C:\PXE\binl\DRIVERS

Since apparently your "source" .7z does not contain any "zipped" .inf file, simply continue with #3 and #4 (skipping #1 and #2).

Had you actually read this part:

If you cannot find the drivers for your network card or want to include numerous drivers, download DriverPack LAN and save the .7z file in C:\PXE\tools\ directory. Version 8.12.1 DP_LAN_wnt5_x86-32_8121.7z is used below. The steps below can be automated by running 5a_LAN.cmd


And checked the actual 5a_LAN.cmd:
@echo off

call "%~dp0_parameters.cmd"



::__________





::Extract all .inf files from driver pack and auto-rename any duplicates

%TOOLSDIR%\7za.exe e "%TOOLSDIR%\%LANPack%" -o"%BINL%\INF" *.inf -aour



::Extract all .sys files from driver pack and overwrite any duplicates

%TOOLSDIR%\7za.exe e "%TOOLSDIR%\%LANPack%" -o"%BINL%\DRIVERS" *.sys -aoar







pause

You could have noticed how only steps #3 and #4 are performed.

But (question) have you actually downloaded the downloaded version and tried using the pre-made .cmd batch files? :w00t:

If I were you I would try them before (or concurrently) with the "manual" way, they only need to have an initial configuration:
http://diddy.boot-la...les/scripts.htm

:cheers:
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