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#26 BiTByte

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 07:54 PM

It works like that.
Once Plop takes over there is only support for USB-Massstorage but not anymore for USB-Mice or keyboard until Windows boots up and starts using own drivers.

So you can not have any menu between plop and windows start.

:cheers:


you can have a menu between, but it must have a timeout for one preferred system to boot, because you cannot press enter

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 08:31 PM

Or like that. :cheers:

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 08:38 AM

you can have a menu between, but it must have a timeout for one preferred system to boot, because you cannot press enter

And by *cleverly* using the "default" grub4dos settings, you may even be able to cycle through several choices by simply booting a number of times.... :dubbio:

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 04:41 PM

Hi
Some funny things with plopboot.
Haven't used latest yet.
Basically, plop driver stays loaded after a ntldr/warm reboot/ grub.
At the moment I am booting off floppy (just mentionning in case it changes something), cause my mbr is
down again /still.
I boot with a grub floppy. Then I can either go to normal Windows xp or choose stuff on floppy.
Ok, boot plpbt.bin. Then boot usb (fat 32, ntldr, boot.ini). There I try to load a c:\cmdcons.mbr
from boot.ini. There is a prob, maybe the cmdcons.mbr is not good (but maybe it's because C:\cmdcons).
The system reboots. I get back to grub floppy. I go back to plop.
There Plop shows usb drive as hda :P :)

Plus, the hda is shown hda1, hda2 is an unpartitionned thing, because usb stick is fake (search rmprepusb :dubbio: :cheers: if you don't know).
Hda2 I don't know, maybe other usb stick, maybe real harddrive?
Usb option hangs.
Internet time running out
Will continue

#30 betrand

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 04:55 PM

Ok :dubbio:
Updated internet thing..:cheers:

Try a few things,
boot hda1, boots ntldr (on stick) sure. Ntldr boots grub on stick? cant remember.
Hda2 :P unformatted so anyway..
hda1 (once again ubb partition1)>ntldr>cmdcon.mbr hangs.

So yeah, it's cool, haha! Driver of plop stays in mem.
Can we do something about it? with it?

On a different note, and by the way I boot from disquette so it boots,
The mbr of real hd is F***ed (edit: so it won't boot) I mean the hd doesn't boot after the scenario described. :/
With a dos ntfs floppy, ntfs Hd not recognized.

Ok, easy (if you can boot from floppy, or cd) (or usb) (my usb not supported)
to put things back with testdisk dos version. (write mbr)

Hu:)Tada, drive ok again:P

Edited by betrand, 25 April 2011 - 05:02 PM.


#31 betrand

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 05:15 PM

Ok, I was gonna write, 'hey, answer! I want reply:)

but in fact the scenario is so ..what, not easy to reproduce? that..
One might provide more info, or see what qestions (not answers, I 'm no expert in these things :) :cheers:) are possibly askable.

Ok, the info that might be ok,
that the c:\cmdcons.mbr points to c, so maybe (is a question) it tries to find/mount/load
the real hd partition, which is, as I said, f***ed. That might be why then (warm reboot) it is hidden in plop (hd not shown in plop menu)(just hda1 and hda2 -usb stick).

Question, a warm-reboot with ntldr?, cool:)
+ ++questions

By the way, :cheers: , all :dubbio:

edit:
quote myself:

(not answers, I 'm no expert in these things )

I meant no expert in drivers, not 'no expert in answers', that sounds funny, though it's applicable too :P :rofl:
Anyway, go out in the sun, I'll have much more fun...!

Edited by betrand, 25 April 2011 - 05:21 PM.


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Posted 25 April 2011 - 05:33 PM

I feel a need to start again!


Hello, all you guys and girls!!
Its nice to be back on the forum :dubbio:

(cause I started just quote Hi)

Ok, plus I am sure the floppy/grub/plpbt/usb/ntldr-boot.ini/cmdcons.mbrbs (a cd bs) is
loaded in memory as it says, in a familiar tone, disk error, please press any key
to reboot. I hexed the file, the text is in it.

Now go out take suntan

Edited by betrand, 25 April 2011 - 06:24 PM.


#33 betrand

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 05:41 PM

:P
Really I feel like Fleming discovering Penicillin :cheers: :dubbio:

:) :cheers:

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 06:36 PM

I was wondering if "the ones who know" ;) might know if it is useful, in
the lines of reuse the driver for another purpose once loaded,
or vice-versa (?)
But prbably getting ahead of myself.. :/

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 07:26 PM

Update

after floppy grub plop usb ntldrboot.ini cmdcons.bs, reboot, floppy/grub plop ntldrboot.ini ,grldr, grub does see hd1,0 as ntfs, and lists files ok.

;)

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 08:20 PM

Yeah, I know, still squatting topic (plop boot manager 5.0.1.2 release and not 'things in ram').
Just to ad, as I was on 'driver stays loaded',
one can read
that topic along with it. (grub to dos to grub)
r.

Edited by betrand, 30 April 2011 - 08:21 PM.


#37 betrand

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 04:12 PM

To clear things, though I -really really want to start in another thwread, the cmdcons.bs I refered to, previously,
is really a mistake by me, in that I had in the past edited a ntldr.bs to cmdcons, in the msdos4.0 section at the beginning of the file.
I had left a trailing 0, therefore there was a prob for the boot-sector file to understand.
So it rebooted. :thumbup:

Edited by betrand, 04 May 2011 - 04:14 PM.





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