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#1 XspeedPL

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 12:38 PM

Hi

I did bulid my LiveXP with integrated Sp3 XP CD.
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- System drive as settings drive
- ProramFilesPE: %SystemDrive% as location
- Ramdisk drivers unchecked

Copied to USB using: U_XP_SET. Booting correctly, pointer appears, then logon window frequently appears for 1/4 sec. Nothing else. I can open task manager, where i can see XPELogon, TaskMan (of course), and critical XP processes.

What's wrong?

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 05:03 PM

Could be your source, can you try an untouched image for comparison/test?

'ProramFilesPE' ?? Is this what you entered under 'Set %ProgramFiles% folder name to' option (why?) or are you using standard %ProgramFiles% ("X:\Program Files")? Changing these settings can cause issues, be careful.

If 'Ramdisk drivers unchecked' you're using CreateISO finish script or WimBoot with supplied drivers?

A log will tell us more, save it, zip it and post here <_<

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 06:52 PM

Source is OK, installed XP from this CD not so long ago.

I did mean "Define %ProgramFiles% location".

I just unchecked the checkboxes under "LiveXP\Drivers\5 Ramdisk\".
Also unchecked:
"LiveXP\Finish\2 Create Image\"
"LiveXP\Finish\3 Emulation\"
"LiveXP\Finish\2 Burn Image\"

Where is the log file located?

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:49 PM

You can install XP from OEM or other disk but that doesn't mean it'll support LiveXP <_<

There are three scripts under "LiveXP\Finish\2 Create Image\", BootSDI, CreateISO and WimBoot (only BootSDI requires Ramdisk script selected); if you de-selected them all there's no ISO created :cheers:

The log file must be saved manually (by default) from the Log results tab when project finishes (or setup to save automatically in Tools options - recommended). The HTML log will be in the project base folder and needs to be zipped up before posting here.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 09:13 PM

Oh, didn't know that.

I don't need any ISO since i will copy files from "Target" directory directly to USB.

OK, here is the log: link

And i forgot to mention that i am using WinBuilder on MS Virtual PC - XP Mode since i am Windows 7 user.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 12:43 AM

I don't need any ISO since i will copy files from "Target" directory directly to USB.

You say you're using U_XP_SET to setup USB from Target dir of this project? I thought U_XP_SET needed an image file (img/iso), no? I remember using PeToUSB for a setup like this but haven't tried in a long time; I prefer images for speed and portability etc. Anyway, taking your word for it you can do it this way, I still think your nLited source is an issue. As a general rule, better to get a normal booting ISO before attempting the USB stuff just to know your build is OK.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 03:28 PM

I thought U_XP_SET needed an image file (img/iso), no?

ISO is not needed, but you can use it.

I think it's logon problem, since LiveXP stops at logon part.
Anyway i will try to get not nLited source...

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 12:50 PM

The source was the problem after all.
Works like a dream now, thanks!

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 03:47 PM

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 01:00 PM

LiveXP works OK, but there are no shortcuts in Start Menu and on desktop. Thats weird, because i have many programs enabled in LiveXP project (and i can find them in "Program FIles" directory).

And one more question: Is it possible for LiveXP to boot from CD and seve settings on USB drive? Booting from USB takes time and i want LiveXP to store settings and registry (makes new programs install correctly).

Edited by XspeedPL, 07 October 2010 - 01:02 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2010 - 08:48 PM

LiveXP works OK, but there are no shortcuts in Start Menu and on desktop. Thats weird, because i have many programs enabled in LiveXP project (and i can find them in "Program FIles" directory).

I think this has something to do with changing Program Files to LivePrograms, I will have to test to see if this is a bug or ?? May I ask why you need special Program Files directory?

And one more question: Is it possible for LiveXP to boot from CD and seve settings on USB drive? Booting from USB takes time and i want LiveXP to store settings and registry (makes new programs install correctly).

If I understand your question, you want CreateISO type build booting strait from CD (no RAM loading) but keep %temp% on removable UFD? Maybe possible but problematic and won't do what you want I don't think; things like registry changes are not saved in temp so would be lost etc. You can still have temp in RAM (FBWF) with CreateISO, you'll get strait boot from CD with writable temp but not saved for next boot. The only way I know of to actually save configuration settings, registry changes, 'installed' programs etc. between boots is using hybrid portables called ppAX talked about here.

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 12:55 PM

1. I am not using ProgramFilesPE anymore. Problem still occurs.

2. I just need .NET Framework on my LiveXP and i don't want to install it every time i run LiveXP.

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 05:24 PM

1. I am not using ProgramFilesPE anymore. Problem still occurs.

2. I just need .NET Framework on my LiveXP and i don't want to install it every time i run LiveXP.

1. I need the log of the project you're having trouble with.

2. Check this post: http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=5888 for adding NET to LiveXP.

Some portables include NET support, not sure if it would do what you need though.
nlite.1.4.6.0.Multilanguage.Portable.with.Net.Framework.2.0.Integrated
nLite 1.4.7 plus NET Portable

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 08:41 PM

1. Here is it: Link

2. Thanks, i check this out.

3. Portables won't do, since i have to work with 15+ .NET apps.

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Posted 09 October 2010 - 03:12 AM

There is no ModelRam.exe being created, I assume because you don't have any finish script selected. Without ModelRam.exe, afaik, there will be no shortcuts created. There are tools that can create shortcuts after boot, let me know if this is something you're interested in.

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Posted 09 October 2010 - 10:37 PM

OK, i modified the project: Link

And now i see an error:
"An unexpected error (-538038208) occured at line 1773 in d:\xpsp\base\boot\setup\arcdisp.c"

What is this?

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Posted 09 October 2010 - 11:11 PM

You need to supply source files for exFAT script you enabled (unchecked by default). See the script interface for details and download links.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:58 PM

Now i did boot LiveXP with exFAT files added correctly. Error appeared again.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 08:34 PM

Sorry to be this way but you need to supply a new log for each change made/new question/issue; otherwise I can only take your word that 'files were added correctly' (and no other changes made). If this is the case, there may be bug in that script and you'd need to start a new post specific to that issue. this probably wouldn't be a bad idea anyway, can I assume the original issue is resolved?

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I can't reproduce this error using exFAT, could it be related to

..forgot to mention that i am using WinBuilder on MS Virtual PC - XP Mode since i am Windows 7 user.

I don't have MS Virtual PC on Win7 to test right now.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 09:16 PM

I just get an idea of workaround for my problem. I only need 'ModelRam.exe', right?
I copied 'ModelRam.exe' to other folder, and set the project without 'Finish' scripts (like when boot was successful).
After i unpacked ModelRam.exe i did see 'Documents and Settings' directory and file named "ResShort.exe". What does this file do? Do i have to copy it to root of my USB?

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 10:33 PM

I just get an idea of workaround for my problem. I only need 'ModelRam.exe', right?
I copied 'ModelRam.exe' to other folder, and set the project without 'Finish' scripts (like when boot was successful).
After i unpacked ModelRam.exe i did see 'Documents and Settings' directory and file named "ResShort.exe". What does this file do? Do i have to copy it to root of my USB?

Wow, you do like doing things the hard way :cheers: , I don't see any way this will work; the ModelRam.exe is created based on the project you build. It will need to be re-created for each project to reflect changes made. What is the problem with just selecting a finish script (CreateISO etc.), you don't need to use the ISO (but nice to have).

Going back to...

The source was the problem after all.
Works like a dream now, thanks!

It was working like a dream but no shortcuts or did the shortcuts work at that point?

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 07:17 AM

1. I did test it. I unpacked manually ModelRam to root of my USB, then i did boot. Boot was successful (without errors) and shortcuts (also most importantly, autostart) are there on desktop, start menu, etc.
Looks like everything is OK, because ONLY changes in my project were that 'Finish' scripts, all programs, components and drivers wasn't changed in any way, so ModelRam didn't change, am i right?

2. There were no shortcuts (and most importantly, autostart).

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 04:18 PM

1. I did test it. I unpacked manually ModelRam to root of my USB, then i did boot. Boot was successful (without errors) and shortcuts (also most importantly, autostart) are there on desktop, start menu, etc.
Looks like everything is OK, because ONLY changes in my project were that 'Finish' scripts, all programs, components and drivers wasn't changed in any way, so ModelRam didn't change, am i right?

This is an unorthodox way of setting up your build and seemingly fraught with unpredictable outcomes but, hey, if it works for you who am I to complain? :cheers:

Glad it's working :D

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 04:20 PM

Forgot to say thanks for your help amalux :D .

Edited by XspeedPL, 11 October 2010 - 04:20 PM.


#25 amalux

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 05:00 PM

Hey, no problem, glad to help (I hope I helped :cheers: )

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