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#1 Nuno Brito

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:45 PM

Hmm..

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I wonder what might be happening.. :hyper:

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:43 AM

I wonder what might be happening.. :)


Word of mouth in the underground about a rave :hyper: at boot-land? ;)

:)

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 10:42 AM

Sure, why not? :hyper:

My guess is that they were all bots attending a party since they were not accounted by the statcounter javascript and therefore crashed the party somehow.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:00 PM

My guess is that they were all bots attending a party since they were not accounted by the statcounter javascript and therefore crashed the party somehow.


If so, then being a member can be made mandatory to surf boot-land pages. Otherwise, enormous boot-enthusiasts will eventually choke the server bandwidth resulting in a poor response time for legitimate members.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:04 PM

If so, then being a member can be made mandatory to surf boot-land pages. Otherwise, enormous boot-enthusiasts will eventually choke the server bandwidth resulting in a poor response time for legitimate members.

If they become members willingly, its way better then forcing users to submit a form :) eventually, I couldn't resist posting the reply (had to register to get identified). Anyhow, daily few eggs will be popping out becoming new members :hyper:

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:16 PM

If so, then being a member can be made mandatory to surf boot-land pages. Otherwise, enormous boot-enthusiasts will eventually choke the server bandwidth resulting in a poor response time for legitimate members.


NO. :)

This is an "open community". ;)

People have all the rights in the world to browse the forums for as long as they wish before (and only if they want to) eventually registering as a member.

Nuno :hyper: is also so kind (something that I don't personally approve of :)) to keep a handful of bugmenot accounts "live" to allow people to access some downloads without bothering to register, as a further step to make the board "as open" as possible.

To be exact, my personal opinion is that the bugmenot accounts are OK, as long as they are easily distiguishable from other members, by means of a "bugmenot" flag, and/or easily identifiable names, like (examples) :w00t::
  • Anonymous Coward
  • BugMeNot Leecher
  • IWontTellYouMyName
and similar ones...

BTW there is no such thing as a "legitimate member", there is either "a member" or a "non-member" and NO "UNlegitimate members". :)

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:27 PM

People have all the rights in the world to browse the forums ..............


:hyper: & the BOTS, too

BTW there is no such thing as a "legitimate member", there is either "a member" or a "non-member" and NO "UNlegitimate members".


A few days back, Nuno removed a couple of members who were spammers in disguise . Though, they passed through the same registration process as other members, I personally do not consider them as "Legitimate"

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:33 PM

:) & the BOTS, too

Yep, life is tough, but how do you think that future members can find boot.-land if you prevent access to bots (like google or yahoo)? :hyper:

A few days back, Nuno removed a couple of members who were spammers in disguise . Though, they passed through the same registration process as other members, I personally do not consider them as "Legitimate"

Sure ;) , and as a matter of fact they are "non-members" since Nuno "removed" them :).

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:38 PM

Sure :hyper: , and as a matter of fact they are "non-members" since Nuno "removed" them :).


They were ILLEGITIMATE members for the tenure between "their registration process got successfully completed" & "they managed to make a couple of posts with a fake URL as their signature text"

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:55 PM

Hmm..

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I wonder what might be happening.. :)


that's it - 12 000 ..... Now the server can theoretically to receive 40 000

changed --------> server.max-fds = 40960

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 01:23 PM

How can one detect and prevent forum bot spammers? Add "image Captca" for non-members? (then they win first step in chess)


Almost every websites i've visited, provide external links for downloads these days but then forums makers became smart too, auto-removing links, then again link posters becomes smart by adding h**t:// :hyper: (instead of http). Forum administrators are very greedy, making users to forcefully submit email address (which they spread to ad rascals) and then we receive those ;) "Enlarging" messages!


:) I've created 2 special mail.ru email address (biggest spammers). Any one knocking their doors ends having machine gun pointed at them. Second account automatically retrieves + deletes all first account's mail(s) AFTER 1 day ONLY. Second email is set to automatically delete and empty all mails after 15 days. While the first account is only for public (forum, anonymous private emailing, etc) for personal matters i've another :)

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 01:26 PM

They were ILLEGITIMATE members for the tenure between "their registration process got successfully completed" & "they managed to make a couple of posts with a fake URL as their signature text"


Well, nice try :hyper: , but unfortunately not good enough. ;)

There are some slight differences that you seem like not having entirely got, I'll make you an example, I hope this would make things more clear :).

Someone decides (or unfortunately needs :)) to expatriate to another country.
  • If he/she enters this other country "officially" using a passport and (where needed) an appropriate Visa, to the authorities of this country he/she is a legal (or legitimate) immigrant.
  • If he/she enters this other country "UNofficially" without using a passport and (where needed) an appropriate Visa, to the authorities of this country he/she is an illegal (or illegitimate) immigrant.

This won't change the fact that if he/she commits a crime in this new country he will likely be sent home.

I.e. you can have:
  • a legitimate immigrant behaving lawfully
  • a legitimate immigrant behaving unlawfully (that is likely to be sent home or "banned")
  • an illegitimate immigrant behaving lawfully (that is also likely to be sent home, but only because he didn't comply with immigration rules, not because he committed any crime)
  • an illegitimate immigrant behaving unlawfully (that is likely to be sent home or "banned")

The cases you listed are about "legitimate members" (since they entered the board "officially" by registering "normally") that behaved "unlawfully" and were "punished" for this "unlawfil" behaviour becoming "non-members", NOT by someone who managed to by-pass the registration page and enter nonetheless the board as a (illegitimate) member, we are in case #2 above, and not in any of the other three.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 01:50 PM

The cases you listed are about "legitimate members" (since they entered the board "officially" by registering "normally") that behaved "unlawfully" and were "punished" for this "unlawfil" behaviour becoming "non-members", NOT by someone who managed to by-pass the registration page and enter nonetheless the board as a (illegitimate) member, we are in case #2 above, and not in any of the other three.


Nice logic, I liked it.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 02:12 PM

Almost every websites i've visited, provide external links for downloads these days but then forums makers became smart too, auto-removing links, then again link posters becomes smart by adding h**t:// (instead of http). Forum administrators are very greedy, making users to forcefully submit email address (which they spread to ad rascals) and then we receive those "Enlarging" messages!

Come on, this is a very unfair comment as we are not greedy!

Just imagine how your wife/girlfriend will be happy after you follow our enlarging tips for 9.99 USD. This is actually a one time offer to make your life better for an amazing price - http://boot-land.net...rlifebetter.php


I've created 2 special mail.ru email address (biggest spammers). Any one knocking their doors ends having machine gun pointed at them. Second account automatically retrieves + deletes all first account's mail(s) AFTER 1 day ONLY. Second email is set to automatically delete and empty all mails after 15 days. While the first account is only for public (forum, anonymous private emailing, etc) for personal matters i've another

I only use gmail and have the same account for 5 years now. Really rare to see any spam even though I always use the same addresses everywhere I register.

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Indexing bots are good, they ensure that we get listed on google and other search engines. The only bots we don't want around here are DDoS bots and typically, a bot intended for attacks will do a GET request and also run to Javascript to ensure extra pain on the attacked website.

So, my guess is that these bots were more interested in crawling content than anything else. Maybe within a few weeks we see a new forum surfacing like http://boot-camp.net with brand fresh topics about boot disks.. (small tip: if you visit boot-camp.net do circle the mouse around the women's picture on site..) :hyper:


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Posted 12 September 2010 - 07:07 PM

Come on, this is a very unfair comment as we are not greedy!

Just imagine how your wife/girlfriend will be happy after you follow our enlarging tips for 9.99 USD. This is actually a one time offer to make your life better for an amazing price - http://boot-land.net...rlifebetter.php

:) HO K, you sound just like them!

I only use gmail and have the same account for 5 years now. Really rare to see any spam even though I always use the same addresses everywhere I register.

I've gmail, they did a very sick thing on my external pop email accounts. I did a setting in my gmail account to retrieve emails from other pop3 emails and gmail started sending spam to everyone using my external pop3 (they banned my pop3 saying use your ISP's pop3). I tell you, don't go on my words, do it yourself and get surprised.

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Indexing bots are good, they ensure that we get listed on google and other search engines. The only bots we don't want around here are DDoS bots and typically, a bot intended for attacks will do a GET request and also run to Javascript to ensure extra pain on the attacked website.

So, my guess is that these bots were more interested in crawling content than anything else. Maybe within a few weeks we see a new forum surfacing like http://boot-camp.net with brand fresh topics about boot disks.. (small tip: if you visit boot-camp.net do circle the mouse around the women's picture on site..) :hyper:

;) You're a hungry man, then again your last avatar was like you holding your kiddie? :w00t: Fortunately, There is a tiny problem with your plan, i've something called Firew-ALL installed (firing every women at my will)

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:44 PM

You're a hungry man, then again your last avatar was like you holding your kiddie?

Yep. On that pic you could see my first descendant. I'm really proud of the kid.

I've gmail, they did a very sick thing on my external pop email accounts. I did a setting in my gmail account to retrieve emails from other pop3 emails and gmail started sending spam to everyone using my external pop3 (they banned my pop3 saying use your ISP's pop3). I tell you, don't go on my words, do it yourself and get surprised.


I redirect all mail in my other inboxes to the gmail one so I don't really need POP.

Fortunately, There is a tiny problem with your plan, i've something called Firew-ALL installed (firing every women at my will)

Yes. That is the problem. You need to disable the firewall and click yes on all questions that appear on your screen. This should work.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 09:28 AM

12244 users are online :dubbio:

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 10:23 AM

12244 users are online :dubbio:


..and still Alexa rating is not that good .... :whistling:
http://www.alexa.com...info/reboot.pro



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Posted 31 August 2011 - 12:40 PM

..and still Alexa rating is not that good .... :whistling:

http://www.alexa.com...info/reboot.pro

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I think you're absolutely right.

I'll pay a couple of Russians - to fix that. :rofle:

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 02:40 PM

I think you're absolutely right.

I'll pay a couple of Russians - to fix that. :rofle:


I am told that peeps from Pakistan and India have lower rates..... ;)

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 02:42 PM

I am told that peeps from Pakistan and India have lower rates..... ;)

Do you have stats for Italy? :dubbio:

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:48 PM

Do you have stats for Italy? :dubbio:


Naah, but we have a loooong history of having NOT cheap skilled labour ;):

Spoiler


This is where I got the hint that peeps from India had the capabilites at an affordable price (admittedly not the most reliable source):
http://slashdot.org/...blem-With-Alexa


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:58 PM

This is where I got the hint that peeps from India had the capabilites at an affordable price (admittedly not the most reliable source):
http://slashdot.org/...blem-With-Alexa

Nice, informative link. :thumbsup: Don't know why you need to be 'hammered' to vomit out something useful.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:59 PM

Nice, informative link. :thumbsup: Don't know why you need to be 'hammered' to vomit out something useful.


Well, I wonder WHY you don't do some research before senselessly "hammering". :dubbio:
Not really hidden:
http://reboot.pro/10024/
http://reboot.pro/10024/page__st__4

If you missed it, these are:
http://reboot.pro/6832/
http://reboot.pro/11055/
http://reboot.pro/13381/
http://reboot.pro/13719/
http://reboot.pro/pa..._/about/helping

all parts of the everlastiing war between "common sense" and "senseless Alexa ratings".



:cheers:
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Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:22 PM

Well, I wonder WHY you don't do some research before senselessly "hammering". :dubbio:

Answer is simple. 'Hammering' or 'criticizing' someone (especially Wonko) is far easier than finding out info on my own. Since it saves my time (which I'm really lacking in these days), it makes sense. :loleverybody:




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