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[pscEx]

I moved the checkboxes to the options tab and placed the buttons on the bottom, this way they can be wider and fit the translated text as expected..

Sounds good.
But then you should also move the 'options' tab from tools to the main window.

Peter

[was_jaclaz]

A second complain: Some translations are longer then the English original (It is well known that an English sentence translated into German usually has about 50% more letters)

Yep, as Mark Twain said, "Some German words are so long that they have a perspective."

Just for fun, Italian longest word is traditionally "precipitevolissimevolmente", a VERY RARELY used adverb, that with it's 26 letter is "beaten" by the longest accepted English word "antidisestablishmentarianism" (28), but nothing of course compares with:

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

63 letters meaning "beef labeling regulation & delegation of supervision law"

though sometimes this word (80 letters):

Donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengessellschaft

"association of subordinate officials of the head office management of the Danube steamboat electrical services" (the name of a pre-war club in Vienna) is cited as the longest one!



jaclaz

[pscEx]

Yep, as Mark Twain said, "Some German words are so long that they have a perspective."

From my German point of view:
While the second word is a (nonsence) joke, the first word really is something which could have been invented by administration.

And

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

really could be expanded to

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetzesvorlage

Peter

[smiley]

Donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengessellschaft

I know that German words are too long but not soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long

[pscEx]

I know that German words are too long but not soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long

You should learn German. There sometimes exist also short words like 'Bundeskanzleramtsvorsteher'

Peter

BTW Just to explain:

Bundeskanzler: Our Prime Minister
Amt: His (currently her) office
Vorsteher: The administrative boss of the office

[Nuno Brito]

Completely off topic too, but the longest word in portuguese that I know of is: "pneumoultramicroscopicossilicovulcanoconiótico" proudly using 46 words, one more than it's english equivalent: pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

Still no match for the above mentioned german word..

http://pt.wikipedia....ngua_portuguesa

[was_jaclaz]

Nuno, you are cheating , "scientific" words don't count, the word must be found and "usable" in a normal dictionary, on a diffused book/newspaper or on national laws or norms.

pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanokoniosis
(45 letters) "lung disease caused by breathing in silica dust" - Linguists claim this is an artificial word, and it does not deserve true "longest word" billing.

Technical words: There are many English technical and medical terms that qualify as long words, but they are usually excluded from the longest-word game.

http://german.about....blwort_long.htm

Peter

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

actually IS a real word, it won the 1999 Word award!

jaclaz

[Nuno Brito]

Well, it's funny to see how many people still try to spell it correctly, so I guess it will *likely* become an accepted word mostly because of the challenge of trying to pronounce it, don't you think?

pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

[TheHive]

lol!

[MedEvil]

cute!

[paraglider]

Actually the longest non-technical english word is:

flocci­nauci­nihili­pili­fication

which is 29 letters and means 'the act of estimating something as worthless'

[MedEvil]

Thank god, this forum is not suffering from thread hijacking!

[Nuno Brito]

A new beta was uploaded to the first topic!

Here are the changes:

- added more support to allow internal program messages to also be translated
- fixed bug that forced lower case on variables like %projectdir% (should also fix the ftp folder create in lower cases)
- modified the "simple" function to find files to support vista and ignore system and hidden files wich are protected.
- added spaces on some labels to ensure that they are displayed correctly under vista
- reverted the load hive procedures to use a shell wrapper around reg.exe - to ensure that hives are loaded correctly under vista with administrative permissions
- Added vistape.boot-land.net/project to the list of available servers
- Fixed the ping command, the previous method was not working under some conditions
- Merged FTP client tab with the upload tab, creating a set of 3 tabs to allow using common definitions when uploading files
- modified fonts to support other languages
- Increased the size of tab titles to make them more easier to navigate
- Fixed the blank tab on the web tab when first acessing the page (delay was cause by a ping to the host to see if it is available before navigating)

The language support for the UI is nearly complete, but there are still some internal changes needed to be done on the FTP upload tab since it has been changed/merged and the texts need to be added.

I will also be working to add a simple upload method to allow things to be simpler to understand.

At the moment I've separated each module into it's respective sub tab, where a text with a quick how-to will be included to explain how it works.

This will also allow to use a single tab for defining you ftp settings and then use them both on the ftp client and the option to create a new webserver.

No other changes have yet been made to the ftp upload and it won't overwrite already existent files, the documentation is also very little on this, so I will be working to provide more example of usage.


Other changes include some UI works to support multiple language and the changes on the vista OS like default fonts and a few others.

On the script engine, the major changes include the way how hives are loaded - at this moment this beta is using a wrapper around reg.exe wich seems to give better results under vista. The API for loading hives is no longer working as on previous OS's (XP/2003/2000/Win9x)..

Under vista you should press the right click over the winbuilder.exe executable and select the option to run with administrative rights - not guaranted to work yet, better turn off UAC completely to keep things simple.


More changes will be brought soon, my priorities include fixing the ftp method, finishing the language support and fix a few more critical bugs on the interface editor (will try to recode this editor from scratch to make it work better)


Well, that's it for now - hope you enjoy this new beta!


(forgot to mention: most text labels were enlarged to support technical terms over 30 letters..)

[TheHive]

(forgot to mention: most text labels were enlarged to support technical terms over 30 letters..)

[TheHive]

In testing this version I have noticed that text labels are dissapearing like before in the past.

Im not sure if its Winbuilder or Scripts but when a script is over a 1-2MB the GUI takes a while to show up and Winbuilder seems to freeeze but since ive experienced this before I usually wait a while before it shows up. But thats not a solution.

[Nuno Brito]

Thanks for reporting - I have changed back some code in the hope to make it simpler, but ended up removing some refreshing methods that were needed to repaint the interface..

[thunn]

Nuno, can you disable WB phone home when scripts are running?

Peter (hopefully you're passing through. , Is it possible to leave buildmodel.exe extracted to a nuetral dir. so that individual scripts can make shortcuts etc. Having to start a new build to do a real test of one script is a huge time waster. thx.

[pscEx]

Peter (hopefully you're passing through. , Is it possible to leave buildmodel.exe extracted to a nuetral dir. so that individual scripts can make shortcuts etc. Having to start a new build to do a real test of one script is a huge time waster. thx.

I'm since some weeks working on that, but lowest priority.
I'm building a 'Produce and test ISOs' script where the user can build and test various ISOs w/o re-running the complete project.
What is finished right now, is not so much:

This includes the ability to add a script by just running it and then rebuild the ISO
(Change / remove a script is in my schedule, too. But that demands an 'Undo' functionality including storing registry changes etc. > later)

Please be patient ...

Peter

[Nuno Brito]

Nuno, can you disable WB phone home when scripts are running?

I completely overlooked it - guess it's because I work most times completely offline - even have to use an apache server installed on my laptop to test the web browser.

Will hopefully behave nicely on the next beta - also noticed that when someone is in the middle of the download process and wants to use the internal browser - once it returns to the download tab to check progress, the download process will be reseted as if it was being opened by the first time.

Will work on this!

[thunn]

Peter, Adding Another script just to test scripts, hmm.. In this case I would be greatfull if you could simply incorporate this ability into the buildmodel script.


Nuno, something a little more important this time.
Please delete your Windows %Temp folder, then try running WB.exe with a project using a logo.

sorry, not funny.

[Nuno Brito]

You mean that the extracted logo image doesn't get deleted from the temporary folder?

More things to fix, thanks!

[thunn]

No, I mean If the temp folder doesn't exist, WB hangs when first run because it can't unload the logo to the %tmp folder.
If you delete %temp% somehow, which I happened to do, no good.
Not common, most cleaners avoid this, even if you remove it from cmdline "temp" will still be there, empty.

It's only a problem is it gets zapped. Not sure why I did.
I suppose it's not that big a deal

Winbuilder just needs to create %tmp% if it does not exist.

[pscEx]

Peter, Adding Another script just to test scripts, hmm.. In this case I would be greatfull if you could simply incorporate this ability into the buildmodel script.

I think that you misunderstood:

• The project's target folder is built in the first run, including building the standard iso and maybe run in qEmu
  
• You want to test boot from RAM: Go into Produce&Test center, build the RAM ISO and run in ???
  Target folder is unchanged.
  
• You want to test SDIBoot: Go into Produce&Test center, ...
  Target folder is unchanged.
  
• You want to burn the CD now: Go into Produce&Test center, ...
  Target folder is unchanged.
  
• You want to add one app: Run the app's script.
  Target folder is updated. Go into Produce&Test center, ...

Peter

[Nuno Brito]

Beta 14 was uploaded and is ready to for testing..

- Fixed bug on right-click source code menu - selecting DirMove would place a DirCopy command
- Further improvements on the FTP section
- Some more UI language bugs fixed
- Modified FTP section - the only place to set user settings is on the respective settings tab - all FTP connections share the same settings (individual script upload, ftp client, new webserver tab)
- Fixed a bug wich prevented script.project files of displaying the correct version, author, contact and credits
- Credits box won't accept enter key to prevent unwanted end of line.
- Removed entry !#1274 from language list
- Fixed a language bug on setvar
- Fixed a bug when pressing the right-click button on the main window
- Fixed language tool tip bug on script editor - instead of show "Remove logo" displayed "Visit this page"
- Added a \ on the path when uploading single scripts
- Removed the right-click option to upload a script to avoid conflicts with the option available from the script interface.
- Fixed a bug wich kept the upload progress bar on the script interface visible when the upload was aborted by errors
- Users can now download files from the download center, use the web tab and then return to the download center withouth reseting the connection

At the moment I think that the web server upload function is not working anymore - I still need to debug and see the reason why it won't create new folders as expected. Altought it seems to upload files, they don't show up on the public folders or anywhere else.

Other than this detail, a lot of things were fixed up so I hope that the download center is more usable along with the web browser.

Peter, please let me know if the individual upload of scripts is now fixed - added the '\' as requested but haven't tested the results (yet)

Next step is getting the upload method working well and it should be almost ready to be released as stable version.


Have fun!!

[pscEx]

Peter, please let me know if the individual upload of scripts is now fixed - added the '\' as requested but haven't tested the results (yet)

The missing backslash is fixed, but now a complete new entry is made instad of overwriting the old one.

Peter