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Poll: Are you from US, or dumb, or both? (8 member(s) have cast votes)

Are you visiting from the US?

  1. Yes, I am from the US, I am male, 50ish, balding, and work as manure mixer (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. No, I am from Europe, make more than US100,000 /year, and I have two degrees and nothing better to do (2 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  3. None of the above applies. (6 votes [75.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

If you are from the US and male and NOT 50ish and balding, would you define yourself as:

  1. I am 50ish, but not balding, and I am a professional liar. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. I am balding but not 50ish. (1 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  3. None of the above applies. (7 votes [87.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 87.50%

How much do you make a year?

  1. less than 30 grands (2 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  2. more than 30 grands (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. more than 60 grands (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. much, much more than 60 grands, I am Bill Gates and simply love boot-land (2 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  5. That's none of your business, IRS is enough! (4 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

Please describe your formal education level:

  1. Elementary school (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. High school (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. College (Bachelor) (1 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  4. College (Master) (3 votes [37.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  5. Wadda youmean education, wanna make something of it? (4 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

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#1 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 06:28 PM

According to this ranking site (limited to US traffic):

http://www.quantcast.com/boot-land.net


boot-land is #259.996, scoring slightly ;) worse than #259.995:
http://www.quantcast...idaveywhips.com
a nice :exclamation: site that sells kangaroo skins bullwhips ;):
http://www.sidaveywhips.com/
(a most useful accessory every U.S. gentleman commonly sports/uses when in the countryside)

The interesting thing is that - according to that site - our US members/visitors are mainly :exclamation::
http://www.quantcast...et/demographics
  • male
  • over 50
  • without kids
  • "less affluent"
  • "people with no college"

Which all summed up describes - political correctness put aside - a dying race of poor uneducated bastards. :cheers:

I have the feeling that these ranking site is somewhat inaccurate :), just like any other around ;), so I would like to have a poll to check if the data is anyway near the actual reality.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

:cheers:

Wonko

#2 Nuno Brito

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 07:22 PM

What a bunch of crazy questions.

Alexa also has some demographic stats as well:
http://www.alexa.com...86#trafficstats

#3 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:16 PM

Sure :(, but on another page from the one you linked:
http://www.alexa.com...86#demographics



But, let's compare the actual ranking of boot-land:
http://www.alexa.com...o/boot-land.net
"general" Alexa Ranking #69,290
"US traffic" Alexa Ranking #36,455

Now let's see our competitor :):
http://www.alexa.com...idaveywhips.com
"general" Alexa Ranking #4,897,859 :exclamation:
"US traffic" Alexa Ranking N/A - too little traffic to qualify :exclamation:

Let's see the one just above (site ranked #250,994 in quantcast):
http://www.alexa.com.../europeword.com
"general" Alexa Ranking #235,189
"US traffic" Alexa Ranking #141,258

Let's make a quantum leap and try making a comparison of the first 100 sites:
http://www.quantcast.com/top-sites-1
http://www.alexa.com/topsites
(they are mostly the same, which should mean that BOTH rankings are accurate)

Let's go on comparing:
  • arizonalottery.com, #5,000 according to quantcast, #10,833 according to Alexa. :)
  • columbia.com #10,000/#13,316 :exclamation:
  • ebonystunners.com #50,000/#1,891,472 :D

I have a semi-random number generator that is on average more accurate than these clowns.

:cheers:

Wonko

#4 Nuno Brito

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:46 PM

They both using different metrics.

Alexa depends on those who install the alexa plugin and that will motivate webmaster related sites to go up the roof.

I don't know how quantcast ranks sites.

#5 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 09:29 AM

I don't know how quantcast ranks sites.

I don't know either (not that I am interested in it).

However quantcast itself was ranked :exclamation::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantcast
46th in the 2010 list of the World's Most Innovative Companies
http://www.fastcompany.com/mic/2010
(just before Microsoft)

And 3rd :exclamation: in the list of Web compamies:
http://www.fastcompa...e-web-companies

Quantcast

The 70-employee company, already the de facto standard for measuring Web audiences, sifts through its mountain of data to determine who's clicking on ads, visiting sites, and buying products online. Then, it markets users that have the same characteristics to media buyers -- 9 of the top 10 in the U.S. are customers -- as well as CBS, ABC, and MTV Networks. The company plans to double in size this year.


The good thing is that also how Alexa works is a trade secret, and continuously changing (what the comapny marketing department likes to define "evolving") , so that not only there is no way to verify it's accuracy, but also historical data are not comparable:
http://en.wikipedia..../Alexa_Internet

Accuracy of ranking by the Alexa Toolbar
Main article: Alexa Toolbar

Alexa ranks sites based on tracking information of users of its Alexa Toolbar for Internet Explorer and from integrated sidebars in Mozilla and Netscape.[15][16]

There is some controversy over how representative Alexa's user base is of typical Internet behavior,[17] especially for less trafficked sites.[16] In 2007 Michael Arrington provided a few examples of relative Alexa ranking known to contradict data from comScore, including ranking YouTube ahead of Google.[18]

On April 16, 2008, many users reported dramatic shifts in their Alexa rankings. Alexa confirmed this later in the day with an announcement that they had released the new Alexa ranking system, claiming that they now take into account more data sources "beyond Alexa Toolbar users".[19]
[edit]
Redesign and new statistics

On March 31, 2009, Alexa.com underwent a complete redesign with new metrics including: Pageviews per User, Bounce Rate, and Time on Site.[20] In the following weeks they added new features including Demographics, Clickstream and Search Traffic stats.[21]


Out of this page:
http://www.mark8t.co...ease-your-rank/
I'll quote the relevant points:

The problems with Alexa are:

  • Alexa does not get you much direct traffic (unless you get into the top 100). It gets mostly Ego searches from webmasters looking at their own domain.
  • Limited reach because toolbar needs to be installed. Most people will remove due to concerns about spyware. If someone has the Alexa toolbar installed chances are they are a webmaster, who knows what, and why they are installing. The average Joe and Jane will uninstall Alexa when prompted by their anti-virus software.
  • With a small sample audience minor changes in site traffic can represent huge changes in Alexa rating
  • In simplest terms, Alexa is truly biased toward a webmaster audience
Why do you hear so much about Alexa and why is it being promoted so heavily by some e-marketer’s?
  • Sorry to say, though, it’s mainly ignorance–most people don’t read the fine print about how the stats are being generated. The rankings aren’t worth much-except for ego.
  • Most people see graphs and rankings and think automatically it’s legit. Numbers can’t lie can they? (Note sarcasm) We get that it’s hard to believe. I mean who wouldn’t be concerned when you go to Alexa.com and see certain sites, maybe competitors websites, higher than yours. You are competitive and want your site to be higher. But really, who cares about rank, if you don’t actually get more business?
  • Another trick is the quick con of shady e-marketers by getting website owners to install the toolbar to inflate the stats by having them visit their own site, and sell the results back to them as being some kind of expert. People love numbers and graphs. Few ask questions on how the info is determined.
  • Think of this, if we were pushing you to install the Alexa Toolbar, and we know you are a regular reader of this blog, then my Alexa rating would also rise (along with your site). In short, a pyramid scheme of Alexa ranking.


As often happens, you won't be able to say "Noone told me", I did and now you know. :(

:cheers:

Wonko

P.S.: I see that Bill passed by, just wanted to say "Hi Mr. Gates, happy to see you here again". :cheers:




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