frugal mode installs in Unetbootin
Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:42 PM
I believe it means taking a linux iso, and using Unetbootin to install it to the HDD, rather than a USB stick. But can the install be to the same partition being used by Windows XP or 7 for example, formatted as NTFS?
I know that Puppy Linux has a frugal mode which will do just this but am unsure if Unetbootin's frugal mode does similar.
Or does it need to be to a separate partition just as a normal linux install would require?
And lastly, when the linux is installed is that all that is needed or is it then necessary to run the distro's installer?
Sorry for these basic questions but frankly Googling has failed to come up with any definitive answers.
The Unetbootin site suggests coming over here to get answers.
Glad I did as it's a really interesting site
Posted 01 February 2010 - 09:00 AM
Frugal install "definitions":
To simplify, it is a live-CD booting from hard disk (or USB stick or SD card or whatever) instead of CD/DVD.
What you have on the device can be (it depends on actual methods used and specific distro):
- a .iso file (image of a CD/DVD) - one single file added to the device filesystem
- a .img file (image of a hard disk or partition) - one single file added to the device filesystem
- a kernel + an initrd (initial ramdisk) - two or often more files added to the device filesystem
Posted 01 February 2010 - 01:21 PM
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I am familiar with DSL, TinyCore, and Puppy frugals...so I understand the concept of a frugal.
But I am still unsure if I can use Unetbootin to load the frugal iso (or vmlinuz/initrd etc) to a partition that has another OS installed that I want to keep (as Puppy linux's frugal can do) or whether it has to be a clean partition ( or one that will be replaced by the new distro?)
If the former then will it work with an NTFS partition or does it have to be ext2/3 ?
If the latter then it seems Unetbooting won't allow selection to any other drive but the C drive which is very restrictive.
Or maybe that is distro dependant.???
Can you kindly clarify.
Posted 01 February 2010 - 01:30 PM
If what you want is to boot "anywhere" a live-CD" iso, you can use grub4dos (hd32) or (0xff) mapping with a number of distro's.
Read these two threads:
If what you want is:
- make USB stick work as CD the answer may be Unetbootin (besides a number of other methods, including grub4dos or syslinux/memdisk) and, possibly, GRUB2
- Multiboot with "live-CD" on "any" media, the answer becomes grub4dos (or syslinux/memdisk) and, possibly, GRUB2
Posted 01 February 2010 - 02:02 PM
Okay I'll have to spend some time going through all the links you have provided, for which thanks.
What am I trying to achieve?
1. educate myself more
2. install Linux Mint (frugal) on the same ntfs partition that has windows 7 installed already.
I thought unetbootin would be a possible solution (nice friendly gui etc) but it seems not.
Posted 01 February 2010 - 03:06 PM
Now that we know what distro you are wanting to use:
title Linux Mint 7 find --set-root /Images/LinuxMint-7.iso map /Images/LinuxMint-7.iso (0xff) map --hook root (0xff) kernel /casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/Images/LinuxMint-7.iso quiet splash -- initrd /casper/initrd.gz
Add to the above reading the guide:
Particularly these parts:
Get LATEST grub4dos from here:
If you have one of those stooopid Windows 7 installs with the 100 or 200 Mb partition, you might need to read this, additionally:
And you should be able to start playing the game .
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