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Started by wimmaker , Jan 07 2012 03:44 PM

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#1 wimmaker

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 03:44 PM

what's up everybody?!

i thought the livexp wim i made covered all my needs. well, i found one option missing. when i plugged in my samsung YP-U3 player, nothing happens and it shows up as an unknown device. In win7, it involved what i think was "MTP".
is this a service or a set of *.sys/*.inf? :questionmark:
Can anyone help me out? :frusty:

"much appreciated"

#2 amalux

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:04 PM

Hi wimmaker :)

It's difficult to say without having that player to test but all my players (iPod, iRock etc.) 'work' by showing up as removable drives where I can play the files with VLC, Winamp etc. in LiveXP.

Independent of PE, I don't like players that won't support standard media files (mp3, wav, mpg etc.) or require proprietary sw/services to access the device. There is often more friendly sw available via third parties e.g. iShuffle (works in PE) instead of iTunes (doesn't) ;)

#3 wimmaker

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:14 PM

just plugged it in to make sure it was still there and had the right project, and i was mistaken...
it doesn't show up at all in xp.
the "unknown device" earlier was from win7_pe project.(which i deleted, seeing how it crashs randomly.)
(and yes, i was foolish enough to move the file from there to xp to see if it would work...)

#4 MedEvil

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:34 PM

Look in your regular XP / Win7 devicemanager, which drivers are used by your player.
If there is any, that isn't from M$, then you need to include that in your next build, together with the appropriate inf.
Also not a bad idea, to mark down all other drivers, just in case any is missing in your PE.

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#5 wimmaker

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:26 PM

@medevil
I tried to do as you suggested, but i hit a snag...
the file in win7/8 won't work with xp, and when i try to find their
xp counterparts on the internet, i can't find "winusb.sys"
or "wpdfltr.sys"

the list of files the player in question uses these files in 7/8:
C:windowsSystem32/drivers:
UMDFWpdMtpDr.dll
winusb.sys*
WpdUpFltr.sys*
WUDFRd.sys
C:windowsSystem32:
wpdmtp.dll
wpdmtpus.dll
C:Windows/Inf:
wpdmtp.inf

the * next to the files are the ones i can't find.

#6 MedEvil

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 05:52 PM

Who is the manufacturer of "winusb.sys" and "wpdfltr.sys"?
Did you include their Inf files as well in your trial with LiveXP?

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#7 wimmaker

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:07 PM

For the *.inf files...
wpdmtp.inf was the one only one win7 showed me.
I don't know if they have a inf file with them?

(for clarity, i have no regular xp system to verify with,
i have been trying to get xp on there with no success...
therefore, i am trying to get livexp as close as possible.)

Edited by wimmaker, 10 January 2012 - 03:10 PM.

#8 MedEvil

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:25 PM

To find the fitting inf file for sys files, you need a search program that can search in files.
XP search can do that. On Win7 you have to use a third party search program like SuperFinder or AgentRansack.

Navigate to the windows\inf folder and search in it, for all files that contain the names of your sys files.

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#9 wimmaker

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 05:46 PM

then, there's no difference between 7 and xp in terms of inf?

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 07:39 PM

Impossible to answer that question, without further information about what exactly you're refering to.

If you mean, if XP inf and Win7 inf are absolutely identical, in every possible way, the answer is no.

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#11 wimmaker

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 02:53 AM

with regards to the inf, i meant in terms of installing drivers and services. i did make a little ways in progress, my cousin in Pa finally responded to my email i sent him, he sent me an attachment with several files. he also said that his version of livexp was acting funny.
i filled in the spots, and when i run "startpnp" in my run box, i get a "install status: Mtp -> (null)"

Does this mean we're doing something wrong?

#12 MedEvil

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 05:50 PM

Yes, drivers get installed in Win7 and XP more or less the same way.
The differences are mostly in the fine print.

I'm unfortunately not familiar with LiveXPs startpnp and can't tell you what that output exactly means.

Amalux is your best source, for specifics on the internal workings of LiveXP.

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#13 wimmaker

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:16 PM

Oh well, thanks for looking into it, medevil.
I message amalux for the startpnp status.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 12:28 AM

OK, got your message... basically, that output is telling you startpnp doesn't support your MTP (Songbird) device but you already knew that ;)

Without having the device (or any MTP enabled player) to test, all I can do is give you basic guidelines. If you have a host machine, running XP, where this device is working; gather the drivers with Smart Driver Backup and attempt to import them with DIPE. You can use the manual import feature from PE desktop to start, if you are able to get the device recognized this way, we can automate the process easily enough.

#15 wimmaker

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 06:16 PM

thanks for the suggest,amalux.
I will have wait on my cousin to respond
(the reminder, for those new or simply forgot, as to why is in post #7)

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:18 AM

OK, my cousin seem to be ignoring me for now, so...
If anyone is up for the task, either list the files and where they go.
Or, Zip' em and post them(i don't think mediafire will be shutdowned... ;))
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