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#1 Drake Sorcerer

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 08:04 PM

:lol: I have been googling for hours without any luck. I have browsed the forums but cannot find a working solution for NTFS, VistaPE, & UBCD4Win.

I have tried the following inside of the menu.lst
1) chainloader /UBCD4Win/minint/NTLDR after renaming setupldr to NTLDR
2) chainloader /UBCD4Win/NTLDR after copying NTLDR up on directory
3 & 4) previous commands after using find set--root /UBCD4Win/...
5) chainloader /UBCD4Win/SETUPLDR.BIN
6) chainloader /UBCD4Win/minint/SETUPLDR.BIN
7 & 8) previous commands after using find set--root /UBCD4Win/...

I will try renaming UBCD4Win to UBCD (4 character structure to try to fix the problem later after my group meeting)

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 04:29 AM

If UBCD4Win is setup like BartPE and doesn't have any conflicting files or folders, have you tried to just copy its layout to the root of the flashdrive? I do that with BartPE and VistaPE on mine and it works fine.
title BartPE

chainloader /ntldr


#3 Drake Sorcerer

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 04:47 AM

If UBCD4Win is setup like BartPE and doesn't have any conflicting files or folders, have you tried to just copy its layout to the root of the flashdrive?

Yeah, it is based off of BartPE and like VistaPE it has a "Programs" folder with some of the same sub-folders which could cause conflicts. It has too many programs, and although they can be turned off I just like VistaPE better because it is smoother running and easier to work with. I might play around with BartPE or LiveXP later after my finals in 2 weeks? Thanks for the reply though.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 05:15 AM

I built my VistaPE to run all from RAM so it doesn't even have a "Programs" folder (everything is in boot.wim). I don't know what you have in your VistaPE build, but it may be an option to consider.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 09:59 AM

Which folders are conflicting? :lol:

It's not a safe thing but it is still possible to work nevertheless.

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Also recommend taking a look on BCDW 2.x because it allows to multi boot any XP PE without need for Hex Edit setupldr.bin or such.

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#6 Drake Sorcerer

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 12:36 PM

I built my VistaPE to run all from RAM so it doesn't even have a "Programs" folder (everything is in boot.wim). I don't know what you have in your VistaPE build, but it may be an option to consider.

I have quite a few programs but I have not tried this yet--when I change the layout to include portable applications I might run the core from ram. After looking closer mixing the program folders together should not be a problem--don't know what I was thinking yesterday. lol. :lol:

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 12:47 PM

Which folders are conflicting? :lol:

It's not a safe thing but it is still possible to work nevertheless.

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You are correct--I looked closer and thought about it more. I could even rename the folders. Originally I used to use BCDW 2.01a but I switched to grub4dos because it is still being developed. I do not know much about the inner workings of Boot programs so I decided to play it safe. I might switch back. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:14 PM

SETUPLDR.BIN looks for files in a directory DIRECTLY under ROOT of the drive.
The name of this directory is hardcoded as /I386 on CD and as /minint on HD.

Hexediting SEUPLDR.BIN it is possible to edit the above, but structures like:
/UBCD4WIN/minint/
/UBCD/minint/

WON'T WORK.

/UBCD
or
/UB4W
should, if hexediting has been done correctly.

MAYBE, only MAYBE, something like:
/UB/W
or
/U/4W
could work :lol:, but AFAIK noone ever tested it.

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 04:24 AM

MAYBE, only MAYBE, something like:
/UB/W
or
/U/4W
could work :lol:, but AFAIK noone ever tested it.

jaclaz

Thanks, I will probably try these this this weekend when I get a bit of free time. Should be interesting to see if that will work--otherwise I will just stick to minint. Will also have to make sure the UBCD4Win does not look for programs on root. As many years as I have used it, I have never created my own scripts or tried to understand it like with VistaPE. Have a great day! :thumbup:




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