WimPack + Wimboot

I Am Wanting to Accomplish 3 things in my Livexp Build.
1. Fastest Boot time from disc insertion to PE Desktop
2. Snappy and Smooth Performance once inside of PE
3. Compatibility on all/most Computers -(aside from drivers)

I am using Wimpack.script and Wimboot.script to attempt to accomplish these three things.

Below are a couple of screenshots of my configurations.

WimPack Script Configuration


WimBoot Script Configuration


im needing a Professionals opinion on this one *COUGH*lancelot*COUGH*

Hi dsolomon,

Thanks for calling me professional, reminded me an old Tv Series The Professionals of my youth.

First let me start with thanking to the Real Good Professionals (not me) for wimpack script to Galapo and wimboot script to Nikzzzz

I guess you already found out that you need to alter script setting of ProgramFilesPE to have both wimpack and wimboot enabled.

and one more question, is your hostos xp/2k3 or vista/win7 ?

Further:
Assuming you are booting from cd,
As far as i know above settings will give you fastest boot time + snappy and smooth performance in a very good balance
For Compatibility, better to use BootsectorPE option of "set bootsect.bin......" (which is default but in case you alter better to remind you at this point)
Rest are all about the things you added to your core build (mmc etc.)

As far as i know* maanu and Amalux have lots of build experience with wimboot, maybe they as well as others who have experience come by to comment on settings.

Tip: check King Amalux's LiveXP package to see wimboot settings there.
Also for other things (great number of things to write, all there), especially portable package of Amalux.

Happy building.

i must comment on the link you posted for "the professionals"
on that webpage - it says "Dave Matthews Presents..."
Dave Matthews?

lol

anyways, to answer the questions you have about my build...

I guess you already found out that you need to alter script setting of ProgramFilesPE to have both wimpack and wimboot enabled.

Yes, I just enabled that script without modifying any settings

Assuming you are booting from cd,

you are correct, sir.

and one more question, is your hostos xp/2k3 or vista/win7 ?

i am using a fully updated Windows XP Professional SP3 inside of A virtual Machine (VMWare Workstation 7) without any antivirus or anything "Extra" installed.



and after i post this, i will read up on amalux's livexp package settings =)
thanks for the info - hopefully we can get amalux, galapo, or nikzzz to post

Dave Matthews?

they are very old now, all i remember the theme music and some short photos in my memory .

Yes, I just enabled that script without modifying any settings

you will need to There was a topic.... well follow the warning in your build tests. (probably it will be "WimPack needs SettingsDrive set on ProgramFilesPE Script") .

i am using a fully updated Windows XP Professional SP3 inside of A virtual Machine (VMWare Workstation 7) without any antivirus or anything "Extra" installed.

you are correct, sir.

and after i post this, i will read up on amalux's livexp package settings =)

few points :

1. in programfiles PE , make sure the settings looks like the pic below ,


2. in WIMBOOT script , click on " No gui boot " .

3. use zPNP by Nikzzzz , to be able to install Network drivers automatically at boot time , see my tutorial here,

http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=9994

@ Lancelot

nice to see you being active again.

few points :

1. in programfiles PE , make sure the settings looks like the pic below ,


2. in WIMBOOT script , click on " No gui boot " .

3. use zPNP by Nikzzzz , to be able to install Network drivers automatically at boot time , see my tutorial here,

http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=9994

nice to see you being active again.

alrighty, i have performed all the things you suggested. i am currently building my livexp now.
quick question about Driver Import PE - do i need it? and if so, am i correct in saying that to obtain the drvimpe.exe - i have to pay $25 to the kare website?

i also see the option to use amalux's version of driver import pe, should i use that instead?

Just for the record. What booting time are you trying to top?

i would like to boot in less than 5 minutes lol.
this is version 2 of my livexp build.
about a year ago, i created a nice livexp that booted in around 1min 30sec. and then on some computers - it would take 6 minutes to boot.

so i would like to try to get a boot of around 1-2minutes

If your PE takes on some machines way longer, there is either a problem with a driver or drivers which time out, or the CDVD drive is defective.

Boot time of less than 2 minutes should be possible without finetuning, imo, especialy if you already once had a build like that.

success!
ive succesfully booted to my livexp's desktop in 1min 55sec!
=)
you guys have been SUPER HELPFUL ^)^

Depending on what you're actually doing, eg booting ISO image with grub4dos etc., the this option highlighted on the WimPack script would be worth investigating:



It makes sure that the VMDK image isn't loaded into RAM, but you have to make sure that you put the output at the root of a drive (ie generally the folder named 'WIMs').

Regards,
Galapo.

the option that Galapo suggested is very useful when it comes to boot from usb with speed , and if i recall correctly it was implemented on my request (correct me guys if im wrong) . Lancelot ,Amalux and i had long talks about this feature .

anyways , tell me , did you also use zPNP feature ?

@ Galapo

i was wondering if " pack system 32 " feature of WIMPACK is working with WIMBOOT ?

Hi dsolomon

quick question about Driver Import PE - do i need it?

shortly the best on internet , but do you need it ! how can i know

and if so, am i correct in saying that to obtain the drvimpe.exe - i have to pay $25 to the kare website?

script contains last free version, option on script only for people who pay for next version.

i also see the option to use amalux's version of driver import pe, should i use that instead?

check amalux's topic and instructions, also check maanu's above zPnp feature -->both serves same goals with different ways. (+also check script's topic page to see if you need or not )

success!
ive succesfully booted to my livexp's desktop in 1min 55sec!

principle of Galapo's livexp is "always success", as a result simply The Best PE1

Hi maanu,

@ Lancelot

nice to see you being active again.

if i recall correctly it was implemented on my request (correct me guys if im wrong)

it was there since i come boot-land , your idea = contribution is one below (Copy VMDK image to .....)

i was wondering if " pack system 32 " feature of WIMPACK is working with WIMBOOT ?

+ i was wondering how maanu missed to test this . (honestly i do not know the answer now since i do not use that option (i've never look inside how it works) hence it never came to my mind to check ...... ) Well i have my time excuse, lets wait what Galapo will say.

anyways , tell me , did you also use zPNP feature ?

the zPNP.script worked like a champ! love love LOVE zPNP. =)
and the tutorial is very straight forward.
i am now working on the PPAPPSGEN thing. fun fun!

Hi dsolomon
shortly the best on internet , but do you need it ! how can i know
script contains last free version, option on script only for people who pay for next version.
check amalux's topic and instructions, also check maanu's above zPnp feature -->both serves same goals with different ways. (+also check script's topic page to see if you need or not )

principle of Galapo's livexp is "always success", as a result simply The Best PE1

Hi maanu,


it was there since i come boot-land , your idea = contribution is one below (Copy VMDK image to .....)

+ i was wondering how maanu missed to test this . (honestly i do not know the answer now since i do not use that option (i've never look inside how it works) hence it never came to my mind to check ...... ) Well i have my time excuse, lets wait what Galapo will say.

yes , actually i meant about VMDK image suggestion not wimpack of course . and i guess Galapo fixed this option.
i have just tried that system32 function with wimboot , it seems WIMPACK or WIMBOOT does not bother at all . the size is same of both images no matter i build project with packed system32 or else .

@ dsolomon

i personally use zPNP and Driverimport pe together . zPNP for automate the network drivers stuff , driver importPE is for those rare systems where zPNP miss to find any driver , so i use driverimport pe to IMPORT the driver from host OS . also for multi media , i will have the option to IMPORT all the drivers from the host OS.

@ Galapo

i was wondering if " pack system 32 " feature of WIMPACK is working with WIMBOOT ?

No, it won't work with WimBoot because the %systemdrive% filesystem isn't NTFS so won't accept junctioning. Two future possibilities:

1) The driver in development here: http://www.boot-land...showtopic=11340

2) Nikzzzz modify the his wimpack.exe to allow for having the relocated system files to be on a ramdrive.

Regards,
Galapo.

No, it won't work with WimBoot because the %systemdrive% filesystem isn't NTFS so won't accept junctioning. Two future possibilities:

1) The driver in development here: http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=1134

2) Nikzzzz modify the his wimpack.exe to allow for having the relocated system files to be on a ramdrive.

Regards,
Galapo.

what is the name of driver ? clicking on the link , brought me

Sorry, the link that brought you to this page seems to be out of date or broken.

i will point Nikzzzz over this post of your's to comment.

Sorry, link fixed.

Regards,
Galapo.

Hi there every1,
Happy new Year,

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question.so forgive me if any!!

just wanted to know more about the difference in using imagex version(6.1.7600.16385) instead of (6.0.6001.18000) with LiveXP

<when:using Wimpack+WimBoot scripts.>?

well if imagex v.6.1.7600 is used, what change should be added/(modified) to wimmount.cmd in order to (mount) Program Files wim/s ? or if there should be more/another services installed on live PE?

thanx