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#1 Leonam2006

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 01:03 AM

Thanks a lot to Nuno Brito and All Developers that Works on WinBuilder Projects.

I Just Open this topic to let my single idea to fix a basic WinBuilder Tree, because Im not an expert about All necessery files to Create a CD/DVD, USB HDD or USB FDD bootables.

I did try create a script that "fix" a basics Dirs by Levels, this way:

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[Main] Title=myWBtree (Level=3) Description=Idea to fix WinBuilder Directory's Tree and "itselfs scripts by Levels" Selected=True Level=3 Version=1 Author=Leonam2006 Contact= Mandatory=False Download_Level=0 Date=2010-Jan-12 [variables] %ProgramTitle%=myWBtree %Set%=%Levels% %Levels%=%Tree% [process] 3=%LiveXP\Basic\!WBManager% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\RamDrv% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells\Core% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells\Core\System% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells\Core\1 %System%\%Accessories 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells\Core\1 %System\Network% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells\Core\2 %Updates% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells\Core\3 %Addons 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells\Explorer\Tweaks% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components\Shells\Tweaks% 5=%LiveXP\Basic\Build\Tools% 6=%LiveXP\Drivers% 6=%LiveXP\Drivers\1 %Audio% 6=%LiveXP\Drivers\2 %Video% 6=%LiveXP\Drivers\3 %Network% 6=%LiveXP\Drivers\4 %Storage% 6=%LiveXP\Drivers\5 %Ramdisk% 6=%LiveXP\Drivers\6 %Other% 8=%LiveXP\Finish% 8=%LiveXP\Finish\0 %RegFactory% 8=%LiveXP\Finish\1 %Optimizations 8=%LiveXP\Finish\2 %CreateImage% 8=%LiveXP\Finish\3 %Emulation% 8=%LiveXP\Finish\4 %BurnImage% 9=%LiveXP\Tools% 10=%LiveXP\Tools% :END ] I did not type the necessery files in that "Tree" because my "six sense" tell me there are somethings wrong and I acept any suggestion to add on it, if possible. It is not a "checker" like a "Define Fundamentals" or "WB Mananger" but a "stabilizer" for WinBuilder not for a PE-Build. The Idea consist to be added in "WinBuider.exe" when the users will download it to download the necesseries files, whithout choices of what files the User can add on his project.

Exemple: the User that wish download Win Builder to create a USB stick bootable running LiveXP, this script would be with all files just for LiveXP for USB-FDD.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 01:15 AM

I do not understand your goal,

can you explain giving an exampe ?

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 01:44 AM

Thanks a lot Lancelot for Yours Jobs.

I did put one exemple on this section first post, the other is: this script can be modified to VistaPe and Others Pe-OS downloads, with all Directories and necesseries scripts Files to any one specific PE-OS and for any whished bootable dispositive (driver CD/DVD with all necesseries basics files for LiveXP just for CD/DVD)- (driver USB HDD/RMD-HDD with all necesseries basics files for LiveXP just for HDD/RMD-HDD) - (Driver USB FDD/RMD-FDD with all necesseries basics files for LiveXP RMD-FDD).
It could be like a "Downloader Files Mananger for WinBuilder" that User can choice What specific bootable device by PE-OS He wish for.

Now, Did I do a goal, ?

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 02:13 AM

Sorry, I still have confusions, my bad english hitting me again :confused1:.

What I understand is:
You want to change levels (level=) of all scripts with a script.
this will have unwanted results:
mainly because levels are designed to fit the project's build.
*your updates may will fail during builds

There is mostly an agreements between projects, as an example, level 5 is application scripts for all projects, if you move all component scripts to level 5 than application scripts will be processed first !!! but projects designed opposite way.
ps: at your post 1 I guess %LiveXP\Basic\Build\Components% should be %LiveXP\Components% (maybe!!)
ps: all apps scripts you will find around is level 5.

level 8 (and old projects 7) are for finalize scripts .... and so on.


about between project usage (vistape):
we syncronised and made adjustments with vistape-capi for apps section.
As a result, you can use all apps scripts of LiveXP on VistaPE-Capi and all apps scripts of VistaPE-Capi with LiveXP.
(mostly this is true for VistaPE Leopard too, and will be true for multi7pe)
(ps: low numbered of apps scripts are not processed on pe2/3 with protection to ease things for end user :cheers:)
Other scripts out of apps section may cause problems between pe1 and pe2/3 projects.


If your goal is downloading a projects script directly to another project (lets say winbuilder downloading vistape-capi apps for livexp), this is not supported for now. Besides it may not be needed in future, there will be nice working workaround for such tasks.


"necessary files"
LiveXP organisation is, with recommended download (Download_Level=1) you download all project scripts+some of essential apps scripts.
So when you get LiveXP with Recommended option (which is default) you get everything that LiveXP capable of.
Complete download only adds additional apps scripts.
probably your previous post is about this download_level , but currently there are only 4 levels.



As you see, I do not fully get the goal of yours :rolleyes:. As far as I understand I wanted to summarize things, I hope it is helpful.

edit: apps added

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 02:37 AM

Thanks LanceLot.

I will return the Directory "Components" to "LiveXP\Components%" without change the right levels.
I hope You study this Idea and undertand it and try to help us about it, like you ever did.
I Know You're an expert scripter and "others jobs"
I am a single User that is tryng to learn and undertand once more about de project, sorry me if Im taking confusions to your mind, but if You "see" the meanning of idea, maybe, "all Users" will have benefits.
Sorry my poor English too!

Thank You so Much.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 02:44 AM

sorrry, I feel a bit unsuccessfull understanding your goals.
Folders and Levels designed to fit the requests so far, and we are open to change them again when there is a request with a good reason.

here is a tip: components are out of basic so you can disable all components (and apps) at once to make a quick test build :rolleyes:.

anyway, I am a bit depressed tonight which may be making my english understandings fail, if so accept my apology.

Good night for today :confused1:

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 03:10 AM

Tks Lancelot.

I will do like you suggest and will return if appear some log on a quick test.

Have a good good night, too!

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 01:35 AM

Good Night To Everyone.

I did turn back all necesseries scripts to equal level and did run the full project (WB 077-RC2) whithout check my modified "myWBTree" (I still didnt test it), but at the ISO emulation showed an error code: 0003 (Couldnt run the ISO because it is not a RMD).I know "why" it's happen.

This is a modified WB tree that Im using.
[Code:
[Main] Title=myWBtree Description=Idea to fix WinBuilder Directory's Tree and "itselfs scripts by Levels" Selected=False Level=1 Version=1 Author=Leonam2006 Contact= Mandatory=False Locked=True Download_Level=0 Date=2010-Jan-12 [variables] %ProgramTitle%=myWBtree [process] %Basic 1 \*.* %Basic\!WBManager 1 \*.* %Basic\Build 1 \*.* %Basic\Shells 1 \*.* %Basic\Shells\Addons 1 \*.* %Basic\Shells\Core 1 \*.* %Basic\Shells\Explorer Tweaks 1 \*.* %Components 1 \*.* %Components\Core 1 \*.* %Components\Core\System 1 \*.* %Components\Core\1System\Accessories% 1 \*.* %Components\Core\1System\Network% 1 \*.* %Components\Core\2Updates% 1 \*.* %Components\Core\3Addons% 1 \*.* %Components\Tweaks 1 \*.* %Drivers 6 \*.* %Drivers\1Audio 6 \*.* %Drivers\2Video 6 \*.* %Drivers\3Network 6 \*.* %Drivers\4Storage 6 \*.* %Drivers\5Ramdisk 6 \*.* %Drivers\6Other \*.* %Finish 8 \*.* %Finish\0RegFactory 8 \*.* %Finish\1Optimizations 8 \*.* %Finish\2CreateImage 8 \*.* %Finish\3Emulation 8 \*.* %Finish\4BurnImage 8 \*.* %LiveXP\Tools 10 \*.* %Tools 10 \*.* %Tools\Languages 10 \*.* %Tools\LiveXP 10 \*.* %Tools\LiveXP\qEmu 10 \*.* %Tools\LiveXP\qEmu\License 10 \*.* %Tools\LiveXP\src 10 \*.* %Tools\LiveXP\Vdk 10 \*.* %Tools\LiveXP\Vdk\vdkx64 10 \*.*
%Tools\LiveXP\x64 10 \*.*
%Tools\LiveXP\x86 10 \*.* ]

My idea is not to do a goal..is just fix the WB's directories to the unexperient users that's wish make a bootable device whithout change anything after the download.

Is it possible?

Like i did "say" early I hope somebody help us.

Thanks a lot you all.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 03:45 AM

My idea is not to do a goal..is just fix the WB's directories to the unexperient users that's wish make a bootable device whithout change anything after the download.

Is it possible?

It is possible because it is already possible. For example, with projects like nativeEx and LiveXP, all you have to do is point to the location of XP/2003 source files and hit the play button. That's it. User doesn't have to change anything. If that's not the case, generally either there is something wrong with the source or some exotic hardware is causing some conflict.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 01:47 AM

Thanks a lot Galapo.

I was trying "talk" about a process to auto set by default the script's levels (Ex. Basic=1 - Components=1 - Apps=5 - Drivers=6 - Finish=8 Tools=10)in the host PC, because I did Download a WB 078 SP6 with some scripts out of default level, it is not a dowload level, just the level.

And so, I let a Process's Idea like this-

There is my single idea , in the LiveXP (WinBuilder) interface, we must create a "check box", like under text and under process to Auto Set by Default, Scripts by Levels, not about a download level.

[Code:
Process' Idea by Leonam2006 (2010-Jan-19)

"pTextBox1="Basics Levels by default",1,0,3,294,203,21,"WinBuilder sets scripts' levels by default""
"pCheckBox1="Choices Levels",1,3,224,292,179,18,False"

[Process] If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True,Set,%Main,Level=# " If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\!WBManager\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\!WBManager\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Build\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Build\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level= , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\System\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\System\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\1 System\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\1 System\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\2 Updates\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, (Is it Download Level?) Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\2 Updates\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#0 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\3 Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\3 Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Explorer Tweaks\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Explorer Tweaks\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\FineTune\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\FineTune\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\1 System\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\1 System\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\1 System\Accessories\*.*,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\1 System\Accessories\*.*,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\1 System\Network\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\1 System\Network\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\2 Update\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\2 Update\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\3 Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Components\Core\3 Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Components\Tweaks\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Components\Tweaks\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\CDVD\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\CDVD\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\File Tasks\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\File Tasks\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\File Tasks\Compression\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\File Tasks\Compression\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\File Tasks\File Copy\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\File Tasks\File Copy\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\File Tasks\File Find\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\File Tasks\File Find\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\Security\AntiSpyware\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\Security\AntiSpyware\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\Security\AntiVirus\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\Security\AntiVirus\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\Supplementary\Tweaks\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\Supplementary\Tweaks\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\System\Explorer Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\System\Explorer Addons\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Apps\System\HW Info\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Apps\System\HW Info\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#5 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\1 Audio\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\1 Audio\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#6 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\2 Video\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\2 Video\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#6 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\3 Network\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\3 Network\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#6 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\4 Storage\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\4 Storage\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#6 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\5 Ramdisk\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\5 Ramdisk\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#6 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\6 Other\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Drivers\6 Other\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#6 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Finish\0 RegFactory\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Finish\0 RegFactory\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#0 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Finish\1 Optimizations\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Finish\1 Optimizations\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#8 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Finish\2 Create Image\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Finish\2 Create Image\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#8 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Finish\3 Emulation\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Finish\3 Emulation\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#8 If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Finish\4 Burn Image\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# , If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True, Set,%ProjectDir%\Finish\4 Burn Image\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#8

If,ExistSection,%ProjectDir%\Tools\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=# ,
If,"%pCheckBox1%",equal,True,
Set,%ProjectDir%\Tools\*.*.script,%Main,%Level=#10
END
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"*.*.scripts" (all scripts files in the Project's Directories)
%Main=Script's section.
%Level=# (Lines level and his Level's number of the main section inside of scripts) I did guess, is it?
Could it be wrong?
]
I don't test it.
I am not a script's language expert and if there are some errors and uncompatibilities in that process,
We hope someone's help to correct it and if is it possible to the aplication in the WB Project?!, of course.
I'm trying use WB 078 SP6 downloaded 2010-Jan-18.

Thanks a lot to Everyone.
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 01:57 AM

Hi Leonam,

I also was talking about script level, not download level.

I do not understand the need for such automatic script levels or manual setting of script levels. Levels are set within each project to work with that project. When scripts are downloaded, say, from the LiveXP server, they have been set to what script levels are needed so that the end user can build with only pointing to source files. There is no need for any reorganisation, and if an end-user does this, the project cannot be guaranteed to work.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 03:28 AM

Thanks once again Galapo.

In the WB 078 SP6, had some script's changed by level? By default the Basic Levels are- Basic number 5, Components number 5, Apps number 5, Drivers number 6, Finish number 8 and Tools number 10
I have some scripts that cames with level=1,in Basic-is it right?

Tks a lot.
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 03:36 AM

Scripts don't change level generally unless they're manually altered. Under LiveXP, there is a collection of scripts known as "RegFactory". The core script does some altering of the levels of various scripts to avoid conflict when RegFactory is enabled. But this is for this specific task.

Again, as the scripts come off the server of any particular project, they have a script level which has been set by the project author so that they script will work as intended in the project. Manipulation of this setting by an end-user is not recommended because it will result in a different script configuration run where results can not be guaranteed.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 03:56 AM

Tks Galapo.

I did undertand the process when end-User download and updates WB and Levels that project can work properly to Build a bootable LiveXP.

I'm so thank you very much and sorry-me if Im take your time.
Maybe I "see you soon", if show some troubles.
Have a Nice Day and Regards.
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