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[Brito]

Hello.

This is a small tutorial to help you try out the latest OS from google.



1 - get the zipped image of the OS:
http://www.boot-land...8-gdgt.vmdk.zip (~300Mb)

2 - Unzip to a folder

3 - Install VirtualBox if you don't have it already:
http://www.virtualbox.org

4 - Create a new virtual machine, use the default settings for Ubuntu on the selection box.

5 - On the box where you're asked to choose a virtual disk, add the image that you unzipped on step 2

6 - Kickstart your new virtual machine, don't be surprised if the screen is black for some time, it takes a while to boot up.

7 - On the login window, try to enter your gmail account username/password

8 - If it doesn't work, type "chronos" as username and leave the password blank.

9 - You should now be inside the system, enjoy.

[pscEx]

I got a nice "Reminder" from the bootland server to try.

I already tried just after the publishing of the tutorial.

Tutorial is ok, everything worked well and I booted the OS in VirtualBox.

Because I do not have a Google Mail Account, I logged in with chronos.

But then I found myself lost:

The result for me personally has been: Not interesting.

Maybe I have to experiment and find out how to work with an "Only WEB browser" OS. Difficult for Dinosaurs.

Peter

[Xtremee]

I tried just today morning using Vmware and it worked very well before I get this alert for this Tutorial.

It is the first time to know that one can login to Chromium using the user name "Chronos". So, I think I will go to test this user and see what will happen and what I'm gonna to see.

Since Google have announced for its Clouding OS, I'm thinking IS OS (Windows, Mac , Linux...etc) will be a kind of history in the future?
I know that Clouding OS has a lot of advantages but will it make this OS the main and the next wave of OSes?

If we go back in memory and remember the start of the computer and how there was a workstation that any small computer was considered as a terminal for this workstation and any process was doing on this workstation. So, Is the future will be like the past?

[edborg]

Thanks to the reminder I've followed the tutorial to install ChromeOS in a virtual machine.
Good to try out, thanks!
edborg

[was_jaclaz]

So, Is the future will be like the past?

Usually yes, that happens :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivac

But the good thing is that we already know:
http://en.wikipedia....xy#Deep_Thought
that the actual answer is 42
http://en.wikipedia....e_to_the_Galaxy



jaclaz

[Brito]

The first thing I missed the most was a file explorer.

Where do we keep files now?

The concept of cloudOS is good for:

- public internet kiosks
- for children
- company workstations

These are good uses and a network administrator would likely see his life made easy with it.

Personally, I need to run PC emulators that require a disk to store the images. Google docs isn't also a good replacement for Open Office. It's slow and the word application doesn't even allow to preview the text as it will appear on each A4 page.


Nevertheless, let's see what the future brings for chromeOS.

[cangrejero]

How easy/complicated is to remove the OS after reviewing it? Thanks!

[pscEx]

How easy/complicated is to remove the OS after reviewing it? Thanks!

Do not worry about that!

As the title says 'from VirtualBox' you start it ONLY in an emulator. Therfore no affect to your real host.

When, to test, you install VirtualBox, after testing you may let VirtualBox installed or not. That will never have any influence to your system.
Let it installed, will only use some disk space.

Peter

[slener]

Pretty cool..... Pretty simple.... Even a caveman can do it! This OS is intended for the simple peeps that have no idea of computing whatsoever!

But I guess that means less support calls..... Less Job Security.....That Drive Thru at McDonalds job is coming near to all IT personllel....

[DiggerP]

Thanks Nuno for the tutorial.
Interesting enough ,but not sure if it makes any sense to use Chrome OS.

As it is now, you can use any browser to access most of the listed apps.
Don't really need Chrome OS for that

I've been using an XP LiveCD - built with WinBuilder !! - minimum version
and save data on a USB drive.
When done, remove CD and USB drive and everything is safe
One more thing -it's a lot smaller and faster than Chrome OS and definitely more responsive
than running it in VirtualBox.

BTW, another approach is to run ChromeOS from a USB drive -came across this page
How To Run Google Chrome OS From A USB Drive

Let's see how things develop, but I doubt I will ever trust all my data to be stored online only.
No internet connection for any reason whatsoever and you're looking at an expensive paperweight;)
Your data just can't be reached - not acceptable to me.

Pete.

[joalke]

"How To Run Google Chrome OS From A USB Drive"

If it's possible to run from USB;
How to run it from CD/DVD?

[Brito]

Your data just can't be reached - not acceptable to me.

Yes, I agree.

That is the reason why Google is also pushing "gears".

This gears functionality allows you to access your gmail account almost in the same manner as outlook. You can view all your emails while offline and once the machine gets back to the internet it will send your emails from the outbox and update with newer messages.

Gears also works for google docs and allows you to work with documents without being online.

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Personally, I use dropbox as mid-term solution. My files are kept synchronized between "the cloud" and a folder that is placed on the desktop of each computer that I use often.

[edborg]

After a brief test, I'm not very impressed!
I fully agree with this:

The first thing I missed the most was a file explorer.

Where do we keep files now?

The concept of cloudOS is good for:

- public internet kiosks
- for children
- company workstations

edborg

[JohnK]

If we go back in memory and remember the start of the computer and how there was a workstation that any small computer was considered as a terminal for this workstation and any process was doing on this workstation. So, Is the future will be like the past?

If we think back to that time we will remember that part of the personal computer revolution was freedom from the issues of a terminal's limitations. Rapid advances in technology brought computers to the desktop that had more power than minis and mainframes of just a few years previous. A computer on your desktop meant freedom from slow response times, CPU time slicing and other forms of resource rationing.

The criticisms below regarding unsatisfactory experiences with cloud computing show trends back in this direction. The recent Sidekick outage with the loss of customer data is also a warning about trusting all of your data to the internet besides the other important caution below of losing your internet connection. The possibility of cloud services going out of business or bankrupt is another possibility worth being concerned about.

[Arjun]

Same here.
After I booted the OS, and worked a little bit. I cannot find the shutdown button so used virtualbox to close the machine

Does this OS has the n/w adapter drivers of all manufactures. I fear what if the OS failed to detect the n/w adapters and cannot install drivers, in turn we are unable to login.
I hope the Chrome OS has linux terminal build-in and we can install drivers from it. But I think we need to login for accessing terminal.

I am using PPPoE dail-up method for connecting my ADSL a/c. How can i setup a PPPoE connection in this OS for connecting to internet so that i can logging in.
Is there any shortcut key for accessing the terminal.

[Xtremee]

Do you all think that the size of the Chromuim OS is considered to be HUGE for just ONLY a Browser OS?

I remember the days when I built a PE OS using BartPE or WinBuilder. I can make the size less than 700MB with a lot of programs and also Internet access. Moreover, if you use ubuntu live CD you have also a great OS with a lot of programs installed and sure with Internet support.

I hope that in the future Chromuim OS be less size than its now.

The first thing I missed the most was a file explorer.

Where do we keep files now?

The concept of cloudOS is good for:

- public internet kiosks
- for children
- company workstations

These are good uses and a network administrator would likely see his life made easy with it.

I'm absolutely agree with that

[B1t Hunt3r]

I didn't really liked Chrome OS, it is just a overblown browser, for that much hdd space you could put in some serious applications.

[cangrejero]

Thanks, Peter!!!

Do not worry about that!

As the title says 'from VirtualBox' you start it ONLY in an emulator. Therfore no affect to your real host.

When, to test, you install VirtualBox, after testing you may let VirtualBox installed or not. That will never have any influence to your system.
Let it installed, will only use some disk space.

Peter

[Brito]

Someone pressed the report button instead of the reply button with this message:

L.S.
I Installed downloaded vmdk in vmware workstation. Started ChromeOS, logged in with username chronos.

Cannot change my proxy settings. ChomeOS tries to load the page http://code.google.c...inuxProxyConfig

Everytime when i click on "change proxy settings" button located on the "under the hood" if open a new tab in the browser trying to reach the above mentioned URL.

Chicken-Egg problem

Joop van Buuren

Let's hope newer versions address this issue.

[htdw3]

thanks man i tried using the iso last weekend and couldnt get through the boot sequence ill try the zip

[Xtremee]

i tried using the iso last weekend and couldnt get through the boot sequence ill try the zip

No, you don't have to do that. The download extension is (.vmhd) which can ONLY be run using any virtual machine like Vmware, Vmplayer or Virtual box from Sun.

Please, re-read the first post by Nuno CAREFULLY and just follow the steps.

[Alcide]

Thank you for the os but I am stuck behind a proxy server and under the hood button does not work for configuring a proxy server. Still needs a lot of work. I love pre-Beta. It is a fun to playpen.

[DiggerP]

Hi,
I know ,I already commented on this, but the more I look at it ,the more I come to the conclusion that this is nothing more than a kiosk application.
And also, "The more things change, the more they stay the same - at least in this case.
Thirdly, I realize that some people seem to be very excited about it, but .....>

> Several years ago, well before "Chrome OS" , people were making Kiosk applications with Firefox as the browser.
Most have ceased development on it ,but there's still one actively developed
and that is WebConverger Webconverger

However, for my "money" - I'd rather use a Windows- or Linux LiveCD - much smaller and more configurable and most of all, more useful and just as safe.
With the addition of a USB Flash- or harddrive, you can save your data locally.
Apart from that, the ISOs can be run in a virtual environment as well (no need to burn a CD)

Just my take on it.
Pete.

[Brito]

You are absolutely right Pete, but in the end it's all about the marketing.

I can never get enough of watching this video as a reminder of this reality:
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[DiggerP]

Hi Nuno,

Thanks for the video - interesting stuff.
I don't think I'll be rushing out to get one tho.
While there is enough hype about it, it seems to me that this is more suited
for a handicapped person.
The process of typing anything seems kinda slow to me.
Similar to one-finger typing ,haha
I'm afraid I'm not affected that much by herd mentality.

Much more useful - if perfected, is the speech to command or speech to text
facility.
Going even further, the thought controlled computer would be a logical follow-up to that
Both technologies already exist and are awaiting further development.

Pete.