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[MedEvil]

Anything else????

Peter

Yep, http is the wrong protocol!
Don't have time right now, but will check later what the protocol is called, if you can't find it yourself.

[pscEx]

Yep, http is the wrong protocol!
Don't have time right now, but will check later what the protocol is called, if you can't find it yourself.

Do not spend any time with searching for the protocol

If a user is familar with '\\server' inside his live system, he really does not want to connect with 'myExoticProtocol:\\server'

We should give Holger the chance to solve this issue.

Peter

[TheHive]

TheHive: try using this path on your explorer

\\minint\c$

Thats a good tip. We might have to have a tipe section on the PE Network Manager.
It works.

Those shares are hidden, this way you might be able to acess them.

There should be a way for the user to tell which is hidden and which are not. Something visual.
How about on the left side there could be an open eye for none hidden and a closed eye for hidden.

[TheHive]

That's not a bug of Holgers script. That's a XP bug!
There's a way to make XP ask everytime and allow you to enter data, but can't remember how, right now.
XP thinks it has already the login data, so no reason to allow you to reenter them.

This could be another reason it would be good to not have to force the user for password and username before starting the sharing service within the PE.

I dont know why its not allowing me to input that info since I dont have any auto remember settings turned on the real PC.

[Brito]

Whenever you share a folder on your computer the root drive where this folder is located also becames shared. You can create hidden shares by placing a $ on the end of the share name.

It's a also a dangerous backdoor on computers - especially when working in large Domains with Active Directory - anyone with hijacked AD admin permissions has direct acess to your machine and can take control over it with remote control tools like dameware..

[MedEvil]

I dont have any auto remember settings turned on the real PC.

Not needed Billy already did that for you!

[TheHive]

Not needed Billy already did that for you!

Anyone know how to fix that or somehow to allow typing login info form Real PC.

[Holger]

@First: thanks for all your responses and infos.
I will see what I can at the weekend.

@Hive: with the hidden shares: nice idea - will think about it - normally that is known that "shares" with ending "$" are hidden...
Don't know what you mean with "tipe section".
I thought about such a "question mark" near the minimize/close button...will see...
P.S. what is your wokring OS? maybe there is thing with XP-HomeEdition...

@Nuno: with the activities: I tried something out, but at the moment it shows only the activities for the current selected network interface.
I'm still working on it - additional tray icons work so far (for all interfaces should it work then) - but I have small problems to make a balloon tip working...
I will maybe reactivate the checkbox "Show connection info in notification area" which I replaced by "Force new device scannning".
"Force new device scannning" will maybe moved to another location in this mask maybe above..will see...

@Peter: will take a look with the "direct browsing"...

So, much to do...

Addidtional info: I did a test without "ShellWM" and minimizing seems to work correctly...will take a look again...

Greets
Holger

[TheHive]

I using Windows XP Pro.
The word was suppose to be tip's not tipe. And the idea to put a ? mark in the upper section is good.
Not everyone knows the $ is used to make things invisible.

[MedEvil]

I using Windows XP Pro.
The word was suppose to be tip's not tipe. And the idea to put a ? mark in the upper section is good.
Not everyone knows the $ is used to make things invisible.

Before you get $ happy and use it everywhere, i have to warn you, only Admins have access to those folders, as far as i know.

[Holger]

Just for info: There is a big bug with missing Listbox-constants in it (clicking on [...] - I'M fixing it and some other found bugs
Next version should be publishable on sunday.
Holger

[TheHive]

Addidtional info: I did a test without "ShellWM" and minimizing seems to work correctly...will take a look again...

Greets
Holger

Same results. I think the ShellWM is not working properly because it was changed somehow from the original that Ove created. It might need to be disabled untill its updated so it wont cause trouble.

[martinr]

@Holger

Like many others, I have been struggling to get my network working under VistaPE.

I have now got PENetCfg working, my network adapter installs, and I can ping other computers on the network. But I cannot see Network Neighborhood or see another member's files in any explorer type program.

I was therefore very interested in your PENetwork Manager and enjoyed reading the posts, even if a lot of it was over my head.

I have copied your script and it shows up as it should in WinBuilder, but that is as far as I have got. I can't find the PENetwork.exe executable anywhere. How do I get it?

Final question. Is your script/program intended to work in VistaPE?

Many thanks. There is obviously some good work going on here.

[TheHive]

The Vista PE scripts and the LiveXP projects scripts are not compatible. There would have to be a script made for VistaPE to make holgers program probably run under vista. I think it should run since its not PE dependent.

[Holger]

Updated: please see first post for further details.
Please let me know if you find some additional missed constants.

@martinr: will lately start in march with Vista changes/testings...(if it is still needed - I read about some additions that network will completely run with Vista core files - maybe I did understand something, we will see...).

Thanks for using/testing and greets
Holger

[TheHive]

Great update.

Can you add an option to create a shortcut to the QuickLaunch.

Added: simple connection activity in tray

I see it but its not fully working here. Is it suppose to also do something when browsing using a webbrowser. Or is it suppose to show something when transfering stuff in the Workgroup Shares.

Added: small icon in shares list for reflecting hidden/normal visible shares

Well implemented.

This time I started the Sharing without inputing Username and Password. I really like that option.
One glitch is that now on the Real PC I get asked for a username and Password. But I get a greyed out OK button to proceed without inputing Username and Password. Screenshot shows more detail and another idea.



Can you add a check mark when the Animation on network activity is active.


If you select it and deselect it, there is no shown difference. It should look as is in this picture above, but it does not go back to that status. It resembles a normal light icon .

When I press the Stop Sharing button. I get the message:
Connections from other PC's will be disconnected and could be result in lost data!
Are you sure you want to stop the "File Sharing" service?

Would it not be better if it said something like:
Connections from other PC's will be disconnected and if data is being transferred it could result in lost data!
Make sure data is not being transferred before Stoping the service.
Are you sure you want to stop the "File Sharing" service?



When you click on the OK button should it not send the PE Network Manager to the tray. If you click
on the OK now. It closes PNM.



I tried to stop the sharing and it seems to say it finished stoping the sharing but everthing seems to indicate that sharing is still active. Even closing and seeing if restarting PNM would show different results but it shows that sharing is still active.

[Holger]

Thanks @TheHive for testing again.

1.) QL icon option will be added in next version

2.) network activity shows only traffic about the network adapters, so if there are files taken from local cache there is no activity - works here like expected - I cannot get it completely working in realtime, cause I found no special api.
The udpdate timer is set to 1.5sec cause otherwise there is even more CPU activity (to check again all adapters).

3.) Some explaination:

...One glitch is that now on the Real PC I get asked for a username and Password...

Normal, cause like the first info window said (will change the msg a little bit).
You cannot connect to a share/PC/system where your username is unknown!

4.) the missing checked item is fixed in the next version

5.) the normal light icon is the default "PE Network Manager" icon (thinking about some improvements to the animation)

6.) FileSharing-msg: will think about some improvements - the text will be more shortly - yours is a little bit too long.
-> stopping/startting/stopping works here so far - one time I got an errormsg, cause the "Browser"-service could not be stopped - maybe I will put also the error-number in the output for easier 'debugging' what the problem was.

7.) Clicking on "OK", yeah thats right, however, it will be only 'go' to tray if the option "Show network activity" is checked - will fixed in next version.

Next version should be available in the evening...

Thanks so far
Holger

[TheHive]

Im not sure if the following can be of any help but it works on my reatogo build and shows Nic Icon.
http://www.911cd.net...l=Show Nic Icon

im going

[phox]

Next version should be available in the evening...

Thanks so far
Holger

Test of PENetwork. Script v7 with nativeEx build made from English XPSP2:

1. My Network places browsing is empty.

2. Browsing of MININT with Total Commander works:



3. Browsing of other PCs in Network doesn’t work:



4. But I could see MININT from other PCs!

5. When open PENetwork, icon in taskBar appears:



6. But when I click “OK” and close PENetwork, icon disappears!




In general, Script is great. You really deliver what you promise!

[pscEx]

Here my network under VirtualBox:

It is possible to access the network using IP address.
It is not possible tu use names like \\server.

@Holger:

Peter

[Brito]

Peter, have you tried adding manually the details for the DNS and WINS?

[pscEx]

Peter, have you tried adding manually the details for the DNS and WINS?

I changed DNS to the IP of my router, which is my network DNS server.

Same result.

Peter

[Holger]

I think I forgot the inf-files for the "NetBios" service and "DNS-Client".
Maybe these are the problems.
At the moment I'm working on the script to fix these things...

[Brito]

Thanks for quick update holger!

If possible, it would be great to have as option to specify a fixed ip, gateway and DNS/WINS values straight from the script and make them harcoded on the boot disk - my domain machines only work well with fixed values otherwise they'd get all mixed up when using different networks at the same time (WIFI, intranet and Internet ).

But if it gives too much work - then forget it. As Peter mentioned, it's always possible to just use the ip to enter other machines and this also works good enough for me..

[Holger]

ReUpdated: please see first post.

@Peter/Nuno: I changed the tcpip.inf-patching, so the "DNSCache/DNS-Client"-service is also installed but not started yet (not implemented yet).
Just try to start it after networking start with "net start dns-client".
Then you can try to browse again.
Maybe this will help - have no idea - new tests only tomorrow...

@Nuno: the next big thing is to use/work with ini-Profiles.
Maybe I will optional provide a smaller version of the "PE Network Manager" to create some profiles with IP and so on... had/have already some ideas...maybe next weekend/end of february a first test version will be available...we will see.

Greets
Holger