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#1 Holmes.Sherlock

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 06:10 PM

I'm facing certain forwarding rules to my Gmail account. Those were working fine till second last week of December. Suddenly, they started malfunctioning & certain mails are getting dropped since then. I tried to google for the issue & found the same is being faced by many from the same time. Posting on Gmail help forum also couldn't bring out any solution as those people are also victim of the same problem. To reproduce the issue, I did the following:
  • Created a Gmail account: MailIDToSend@gmail.com
  • Created a Google group linked to the account created above: TestGroupToSend@googlegroups.com
  • Created another Gmail account: MailIDForNestedGroupProblem@gmail.com
  • Created another Google group linked to the account created above: TestGroupToForward@googlegroups.com
  • Forwarded all mails of the mail ID #3 to group #4
  • Added the mail ID #3 as a member of the group #2
  • Email Delivery options of both of group were left default, i.e. both the groups were sending email notification of posted messages to all group members.
Roughly, the setup looks like:

(MailIDToSend@gmail.com) TestGroupToSend@googlegroups.com -----------posting message----------> MailIDForNestedGroupProblem@gmail.com -----------forwarding to------------> TestGroupToForward@googlegroups.com

Now when I post a message to TestGroupToSend@googlegroups.com on behalf of MailIDToSend@gmail.com, MailIDForNestedGroupProblem@gmail.com is getting notified & tries to forward the incoming notification to TestGroupToForward@googlegroups.com & fails with the following message:


Mail Delivery Subsystem mailer-daemon@google.com
10:38 PM (1 hour ago)
Posted Image
to me

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

TestGroupToForward@googlegroups.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Nested groups detected

----- Original message -----

Received: by 10.205.129.8 with SMTP id hg8mr291689bkc.6.1327597703609;
Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:23 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.205.129.8 with SMTP id hg8mr291688bkc.6.1327597703598;
Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:23 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <mailidfornestedgroupproblem+caf_=TestGroupToForward=googlegroups.com@gmail.com>
Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42])
by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3si5437013bka.0.2012.01.26.09.08.23
(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:23 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mailidfornestedgroupproblem+caf_=TestGroupToForward=googlegroups.com@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42;
Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mailidfornestedgroupproblem+caf_=TestGroupToForward=googlegroups.com@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mailidfornestedgroupproblem+caf_=TestGroupToForward=googlegroups.com@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@googlegroups.com
Received: by lahg1 with SMTP id g1so1142013lah.1
for <TestGroupToForward@googlegroups.com>; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:23 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.112.11.1 with SMTP id m1mr812059lbb.72.1327597703230;
Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:23 -0800 (PST)
X-Forwarded-To: TestGroupToForward@googlegroups.com
X-Forwarded-For: mailidfornestedgroupproblem@gmail.com TestGroupToForward@googlegroups.com
Delivered-To: mailidfornestedgroupproblem@gmail.com
Received: by 10.112.60.196 with SMTP id j4cs22852lbr;
Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:23 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <testgrouptosend+bncCK_Tw4ytBBCGkYb5BBoElKaSDQ@googlegroups.com>
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of testgrouptosend+bncCK_Tw4ytBBCGkYb5BBoElKaSDQ@googlegroups.com designates 10.68.73.198 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.73.198;
Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.73.198])
by 10.68.73.198 with SMTP id n6mr460895pbv.13.1327597702133 (num_hops = 1);
Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent:x-http-useragent
:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender
:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list
:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender
:list-unsubscribe:content-type;
bh=j+uJ1+KwQjMpdNiCngwvlv2FTzZnzkokoCYASnN36NE=;
b=f/uDbFF3qFZcxhDDPiDa5OaVdKRiom+X1dksFkuiiGio555Xfc7hNs4syZ7WhgrToO
RyXUxEhyyd00sRdE6l9Q7Q+fZUDds+aoJmJgdaeiLAwZ2ZaAtjHkeUt5u+KKyAweg8CO
gkNeENwXA5QV2vc0rroJGCyutCynQpte4kT4A=
Received: by 10.68.73.198 with SMTP id n6mr460895pbv.13.1327597702131;
Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 (PST)
X-BeenThere: testgrouptosend@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.68.51.72 with SMTP id i8ls9049425pbo.5.gmail; Thu, 26 Jan 2012
09:08:22 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.68.225.41 with SMTP id rh9mr452858pbc.14.1327597702029; Thu,
26 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 3g2000pbd.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:21
-0800 (PST)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:08:21 -0800 (PST)
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.00,gzip(gfe)
Message-ID: <81376551-7877-452c-8319-b6eb30fd32ad@3g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Hi
From: MailIDToSend MailIDToSend <mailidtosend@gmail.com>
To: TestGroupToSend <testgrouptosend@googlegroups.com>
X-Original-Sender: mailidtosend@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain
of mailidtosend@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender)
smtp.mail=mailidtosend@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com
Reply-To: testgrouptosend@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list testgrouptosend@googlegroups.com; contact testgrouptosend+owners@googlegroups.com
List-ID: <testgrouptosend.googlegroups.com>
X-Google-Group-Id: 1011230280507
List-Post: <http://groups.google...d/post?hl=en_US>, <mailto:testgrouptosend@googlegroups.com>
List-Help: <http://groups.google...pport/?hl=en_US>, <mailto:testgrouptosend+help@googlegroups.com>
List-Archive: <http://groups.google...tosend?hl=en_US>
Sender: testgrouptosend@googlegroups.com
List-Unsubscribe: <http://groups.google...scribe?hl=en_US>,
<mailto:googlegroups-manage+1011230280507+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi


How the question of "nested group" comes into picture?

 

Some links to similar issue faced by people on or after second week of last December are:

http://www.google.es...b4d227cb7&hl=en
http://www.google.co...8900b11e0&hl=en
http://www.donationc...c=29310.0;imode


Please help.




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