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#1 TheHive

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 09:29 PM

Noke:  Bluetooth Padlock

https://www.kickstar...ock?ref=popular

 

 

bluetooth padlock you can share

By using Noke and your smartphone, you'll always have easy access

 

 

Noke: a water-resistant connected padlock that doesn't need a physical key to be unlocked

 

Noke allows the user to create a custom access code to unlock the padlock just in case he forgot his phone or he ran out of battery. In order to enter the code, the user would just have to press down the shackle.



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Posted 15 September 2014 - 03:25 PM

Well, I like the concept. :)

 

Just concerned that when the battery goes off without noticing then I'm left with a locked bike and no memory of the master key to open it up.. :lol:

 

EDIT: noticed on the kickstarter page that this issue was covered as well. Very nice product.



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Posted 15 September 2014 - 04:53 PM

Well, I like the concept. :)

 

Just concerned that when the battery goes off without noticing then I'm left with a locked bike and no memory of the master key to open it up.. :lol:

 

EDIT: noticed on the kickstarter page that this issue was covered as well. Very nice product.

Well, that was however only IF you still find the locked bike when you are back :whistling: no matter the status of the batteries.

 

Seriously, unless you switch off the auto-unlock feature (actually the only really-really useful feature)  the probabilities that someone manages to unlock it when you are near enough to it (but looking elsewhere) or that someone finds a simple way to extend the range of the bluetooth thingy are IMHO rather high. :ph34r: 

 

And of course we still have the "mistery" of the 5 dollar device ;):

http://www.msfn.org/...break-into-car/

or the simpler (please read as "much more complex") decrypting algorithms, it is well possible that Bluetooth 4 is unbreakable, but the same has been said for almost *anything* sold as "security related" and more generally the issue with anything that works "remote" is that you cannot actually see if someone is tampering with it. :(

 

 

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 06:32 PM

Yes, you raise good points.

 

Regardless of whatever tech used, we'd stumble on this:

 

security.png

 

So I'm keeping in perspective that literally very few (if any) folks would ever get such type of lock on my neighbourhood, let alone bother to hack it. Also, the odds of someone taking my (rusty and old) bicycle are about the same as leaving it out on the street without a padlock.. :lol:



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Posted 15 September 2014 - 06:56 PM

Also, the odds of someone taking my (rusty and old) bicycle are about the same as leaving it out on the street without a padlock.. :lol:

Yep :), on the other hand if you are gonna fork from 89 bucks :w00t: for a lock or 109 :ph34r: including the cable, it will be more likely that they will steal the lock and leave the bycicle ;) (which would represent a success as "final goal for the device as a prevention method from bicycle stealing").

And if you have a valuable bike, you will need additionally another 89 Euros:
http://www.sphyke.com/
http://www.sphyke.co...ucts/more-sets/

An uncommon but possible incident, if they attempt stealing your saddle ;):


Even a Yerka :w00t::
http://nadiemelaroba.cl/
may remain there but without saddle and wheels :(.


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 07:20 PM

I bought a chain, today. £5. And a paddlock, £1.

:)



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Posted 15 September 2014 - 07:23 PM

I bought a chain, today. £5. And a paddlock, £1.

Look, I am usually cheap (actually extremely cheap :w00t: :ph34r:) but there are limits, just so you know, a £1 padlock is worth (roughly, but unsurprisingly) £1. :whistling:

With one of those, you usually get tipped by the thief, they tend to give you a € 20 note telling you, something like:

look,  kid, for next bike, go and buy a real padlock, this way you are taking all the fun out of our profession. :(

 

 

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 07:34 PM

Hehe!

It's just a dissuasion padlock!

Just to go 5 mins do something. Otherwise I keep the bike inside at night.

If, for instance, I used the bike to go to an office and parked it outside all day long,

I would get a chain and padlock worth its weight in gold, but in any case, the guy from the toolshop told me even a chain

"this size" (like a motorcycle chain) could be opened in a matter of seconds.

 

I plan maybe getting a better in future.

 

Good one, about the thief and the 20Euros, but probably if you leave it more than 5-10 minutes, the bike'll be stolen with any kind of lock. (you may say, a more experienced thief have more chance  taking the motorcycle lock off, but the dissuasive padlock avoids someone walking off with the bike.



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 08:28 AM

How about this one.

 

Skylock - Your Bicycle. Connected.

 

 

alerts you if a thief tries to steal your bike and ...

 

is solar-powered and syncs to an app via Bluetooth


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 08:59 AM

How about this one.

 

Looks very modern. I like the option to detect accidents. Not so sure that the option to detect burglar action would actually be useful without the lock itself have its own 3G connection to send data. Bluetooth has very limited range.



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:54 AM

Good one, about the thief and the 20Euros, but probably if you leave it more than 5-10 minutes, the bike'll be stolen with any kind of lock. (you may say, a more experienced thief have more chance  taking the motorcycle lock off, but the dissuasive padlock avoids someone walking off with the bike.

Yep :).

 

The good news are that not all bike thieves are soulless :dubbio::

http://www.dailymail...sking-back.html

 

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 11:57 AM

Juist for the record, a quick search revealed how the concepts (specifically for bikes)  are "unlike new":

https://www.kickstar...smart-bike-lock

http://www.lock8.me/index.html

 

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 06:56 AM

They where new to meow. Good ideas. They look different but similar.



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Posted 19 September 2014 - 08:38 PM

Glad you introduced the "square wheel" topic (which ISN'T square).

Was gonna introduce a variant to the padlock problem: skate where possible + bus when long journey: no padlock!



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 10:56 AM

Some (seemingly nice :)) news in the bycicle field:

https://www.kickstar...-enabled-e-bike

 

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:56 PM

Easier for Thieves to take. Nice and Compact. They just roll it and just walk away with it.

 

 

Lol! The guy wearing leather gloves like if it was a motorcycle.

Bike Looks good!



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 06:37 PM

Easier for Thieves to take. Nice and Compact. They just roll it and just walk away with it.

Not so easy, as the technically advanced owner[1] has (cleverly) inserted this ;):
https://www.kickstar...ngel/bike-angel
in it's seat tube.

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[1] Not in Texas or some other rural zones where they use a 1 prefix when calling the Police (but they wouldn't use that bike anyway):

Spoiler



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 07:52 AM

bike-angel :thumbsup:

 

She was tracking the boyfriend.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 03:48 PM

Well, the video and insertion example are certainly peculiar. :)



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Posted 05 April 2015 - 07:05 PM

I wonder what kind of encryption they are using? Does each padlock come with a pre-generated public and private key guaranteed to be unique per padlock? Or ?... Blutooth doesn't exactly seem like the most secure communication to me.






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