Italian Defaults
#1
Posted 15 September 2007 - 10:56 AM
Description:This script installs both Italian System Locale and Italian Keyboard Layout in your VistaPE compilation independently of your current host machine settings and/or of your Vista DVD Installation language.
Simply copy this script in "WinBuilder\Projects\VistaPE\Tweaks\Languages".
I was inspired by psc's job and other's...
Enjoy!
Note: in order to properly display Date and Time Italian Format in LiteStep Austerity-Shell is needed to edit "system_time.rc" file. Please, read here.
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#2
Posted 17 September 2007 - 06:09 PM
ISO LogFile is error free.
Any idea will be a lot appreciate!!!
"17.41" (System Info window) is right > "5.41" (LiteStep) is wrong.
#3
Posted 17 September 2007 - 06:31 PM
If I try to right-click on Clock icon in SysTray then this window appears... (please, see 1st screenshot)
Any idea will be a lot appreciate!!!
My comments (not as 'how to do it right' more 'For me is very strange')
- In two reg writes you have spaces where they have not to be:
RegWrite,"HKLM","0x3","WB-Setup\ControlSet001 \Control\TimeZoneInformation"
,"StandardStart","00","00","0a","00","05","00","03","00","00","00","00","00","00","00","00","00" - I would ommit the lines with 'Microsoft\CTF\Assemblies\'
Peter
#4
Posted 17 September 2007 - 08:32 PM
Hi, psc!My comments (not as 'how to do it right' more 'For me is very strange')
Good luck!
- In two reg writes you have spaces where they have not to be:
- I would ommit the lines with 'Microsoft\CTF\Assemblies\'
Peter
Thank you for your quick reply and thank you for your "free space" indication! (I've just corrected it, and also tried to remove "CTF" entries).
But it doesn't work, and it seems because of LiteStep (or because of myself... ) and not because of ItalianDefaults script.
I've tried "vistape008up2-base" instead of "VistaPE-beta 009" (that I always use), I've excluded "LiteStep" and included "BS Explorer"... and with BSE the Clock Time display is right!
ISO LogFile is always error free.
#5
Posted 18 September 2007 - 11:09 AM
I think time and date format is hard coded in LiteStep, as it always shows it in US format.If I try to right-click on Clock icon in SysTray then this window appears... (please, see 1st screenshot)
Any idea will be a lot appreciate!!!
P. S.: "17.41" (System Info window) is right > "5.41" (LiteStep) is wrong...
Correction: I think it is hard coded in the theme, as I just saw some screenshots of LiteStep with full 24h clock.
booty#1
#6
Posted 18 September 2007 - 11:25 AM
edit
I confirm that it doesn't work.
I apologize for my untimely (and just edited) news, but unfortunately I was wrong because of "12.56" is a proof of nothing... I've just restarted ISO file under VirtualMachine and Clock Time was showed as "2.24" instead of "14.24"...
#7
Posted 18 September 2007 - 12:41 PM
Please, booty#1, could you explain to me something more?I think time and date format is hard coded in LiteStep, as it always shows it in US format.
Correction: I think it is hard coded in the theme, as I just saw some screenshots of LiteStep with full 24h clock.
booty#1
#8
Posted 18 September 2007 - 12:49 PM
I was wrong because of "12.56" is not a proof of anything...
Well, it is not a "proof", but it is a "sign":
[Begin Italian]
Cesira, butta la paaasta!
[End Italian]
that you need to eat something, take a walk, and think about the problem later.
jaclaz
I think it depends on how the theme is made / what is used in it. there must be a setting in .rc file:
chronos uses %H for 12 hours format and %I for 24h:http://www.leechprint.com/phil/Readmes/chronos.htm
the x project:
http://www.xdocs.ls-...p?page=MainPage
uses i and h:
http://www.xdocs.ls-...EscapeSequences
or ii and hh for leading zeroes.
#9
Posted 18 September 2007 - 01:04 PM
LiteStep\themes\austerity\config\system_time.rc
The interesting part is in line 20/21:
;--> for 24hour time change TimeLblText below to: "[time('i:nn')]"TimeLblText "[time('h:nn')] [lowerCase(time('am/pm'))]"I changed it to "TimeLblText [time('i:nn')]" and now I have a 24 hour clock in the tray.
BTW: I looked into the source code, too and there I found again a switch named "usClock". May be this is used if no theme is present.
booty#1
#10
Posted 18 September 2007 - 01:11 PM
jaclaz
#11
Posted 18 September 2007 - 03:50 PM
Credits (in rigorous chronological order):
@psc: special thanks for your special and never changed availability @ 360°...
@booty#1: special thanks for your shared experience, intuition and following quick replies...
@jaclaz: special thanks for your accuracy, reliability and exhaustiveness...
@the three of you... for the above same reasons...
Great!Well, it is not a "proof", but it is a "sign"
Yes, that's right!!![Begin Italian]
Cesira, butta la paaasta!
[End Italian]
that you need to eat something, take a walk, and think about the problem later.
This community & WB have taken to me like anything before!
Even a woman has not reduced me so!!!
Thank you all, so very much!!!
P. S.: I've found this page that, for who understand all its contents (not me!), maybe could be interesting...
> OffTopic: please, what means BTW? (I think a sort of PostScriptum, but I'm not shure...)
And finally: success!!! (Please, see my thumbnail too!)
#12
Posted 18 September 2007 - 04:26 PM
> OffTopic: please, what means BTW? (I think a sort of PostScriptum, but I'm not shure...)
FYI, AFAIR and IMNSHO, BTW means By The Way:
http://www.cygwin.com/acronyms/
jaclaz
#13
Posted 18 September 2007 - 06:36 PM
Hi online,@psc: special thanks for your special and never changed availability @ 360°...
Great!
This community & WB have taken to me like anything before!
Thank you all, so very much!!!
Great that everything works well.
Within some Latin minutes (tomorrow -or the day(s) after tomorrow- morning) I'm going to explain you how to do the same task w/o your own ( ) 'Italian' script.
Inspite of that: Buona notte!
Even a woman has not reduced me so!!!
Peter
#14
Posted 18 September 2007 - 07:20 PM
This community & WB have taken to me like anything before!
Even a woman has not reduced me so!!!
If I may, a peculiarly "strong" statement.
You know, the forum is public, what could happen should your girlfriend/fianceè/wife ever read it?
A reasonable hypothesis can be graphically depicted as follows (as images are not lost in translation):
---> ---> ---> ---> ---> --->
jaclaz
#15
Posted 18 September 2007 - 08:27 PM
Off topic: understandable for a German, too.---> ---> ---> ---> ---> --->
(inspite the last pic would be )
Peter
#16
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:28 PM
And YOU tell me this... NOW?!?Within some Latin minutes (tomorrow -or the day(s) after tomorrow- morning) I'm going to explain you how to do the same task w/o your own ( ) 'Italian' script.
Ok, I've understood: then we would put in that list not only "Minutes" (Latin, German, Brasilian, Italian, etc) but "Women" too...understandable for a German, too.
Gute Nacht!Buona notte!
#17
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:54 PM
... and "By The Way": what means?FYI, AFAIR and IMNSHO, BTW means By The Way
In ITALIAN, please!
Uhmmm... but I have not at all said that I LIKED it...!!!You know, the forum is public, what could happen should your girlfriend/fianceè/wife ever read it?
#18
Posted 19 September 2007 - 08:23 AM
Download autoKeyboard.Script and autoLocalization.Script.Within some Latin minutes (tomorrow -or the day(s) after tomorrow- morning) I'm going to explain you how to do the same task w/o your own ( ) 'Italian' script.
If you compare these scripts with yours, they write the same items into the PE.
The difference is that your items are hardcoded; the items of my scripts are dynamically taken from the actual environment.
Independent of the source CD's language they transfer keyboard and international settings from your local PC.
That means: These script are valid for every language.
If the KBD??.DLL is not on the source CD, it is copied from your local PC.
Peter
#19
Posted 19 September 2007 - 09:14 AM
... and "By The Way": what means?
In ITALIAN, please!
by the way:
[Begin Italian]
a proposito
per inciso
tra l'altro
[End Italian]
jaclaz
#20
Posted 19 September 2007 - 11:08 AM
Maybe I'm a bad teacher. But I prefer helping people to reach their target by stepping with try and error.And YOU tell me this... NOW?!?
If they finished their working solution, besides congratulations I give hints (from the point of view of a more experienced user) what and why should have be done more efficient, less specific, more ...., less ...
IMHO this is much better than offering a solution at once.
Peter
#21
Posted 19 September 2007 - 02:56 PM
As always, very interesting and workable!Download autoKeyboard.Script and autoLocalization.Script.
If you compare these scripts with yours, they write the same items into the PE.
The difference is that your items are hardcoded; the items of my scripts are dynamically taken from the actual environment.
Independent of the source CD's language they transfer keyboard and international settings from your local PC.
That means: These script are valid for every language.
If the KBD??.DLL is not on the source CD, it is copied from your local PC.
Peter
Generally my very personal approach (at all, not only in IT) is inclined in order to avoid automatisms, where it is possible.
Actually I've learned (about WB & scripts) more than two months ago (at that moment I was a newbie of WB, and I'm still so...) thanks to you and now almost I can reply to you.
Generally I prefer a manual setting because of its predictability (therefore I like domesticate Vista!) and "my" script is myself oriented, that's all!
You know, when I've tested for the first time your AutoDetect I didn't know the how and the why and it for some reason didn't work as it must.
The reason, maybe, was that my Regional and Language Options in Vista are mixed (for reasons too long to descibe): Italian for keyboard and formats, English for locale and non-Unicode programs.
Then: simply, my script came in useful to bypass this occurrence, and to install "surely" all Italian User/System Keyboard, formats, locale and other independently of my OS real settings.
Recently (yesterday!) I've searched about Keyboard and Locale settings scripts in the forum and I've found others jobs (in others languages) that much the way write the same entries in the registry and in fact actually my script is "became" a close result of others except the addition of built-in encoded "KBDIT.DLL" (then, I don't know if really this script deserves the five stars rating that I saw now...).
#22
Posted 19 September 2007 - 03:03 PM
Thank you, jaclaz!by the way:
[Begin Italian]
a proposito
per inciso
tra l'altro
[End Italian]
jaclaz
#23
Posted 19 September 2007 - 03:12 PM
So in your case your personalized script is the best. That's ok.Generally my very personal approach (at all, not only in IT) is inclined in order to avoid automatisms, where it is possible.
Generally I prefer a manual setting because of its predictability (therefore I like domesticate Vista!) and "my" script is myself oriented, that's all!
Sometimes it would help if a user adds his last tweaks in a 'mytweaks.script'.
Good look and good success for your furher researches!
Peter
#24
Posted 19 September 2007 - 03:15 PM
This was only a joke about my stress of yesterday...And YOU tell me this... NOW?!?
Totally I agree!IMHO this is much better than offering a solution at once.
This is my life-philosophy all along!
"Don't give a man a fish. Teach him how to fish instead".
btw: and in fact, then I tripped over "LiteStep" about Clock Time H24 feature so, not?
#25
Posted 19 September 2007 - 03:34 PM
... and in all such cases too.So in your case your personalized script is the best. That's ok.
psc, thank you very much: really it was a pleasure!
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