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And what about the PeToUSB tool?
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 10:18 AM
Posted 18 November 2009 - 11:53 AM
For the record:Nice list!
Thanks!
And what about the PeToUSB tool?
Some more ”tools”:
WinToFlash
http://wintoflash.com/home/en/
SARDU
http://www.sarducd.it/downloads.html
Unetbootin
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
Posted 18 November 2009 - 12:23 PM
Posted 18 November 2009 - 12:41 PM
well Jaclaz has made it clear enough . so i have no comments . and no , i guess it is not necessery to add them to my thread .
i was kind of confused that why people are posting to my thread ,. i was going to pm you . but you did the job . thanks .
is there any way to close the sticky topic , or something so that people cant post . i ll mention there that if someone has any issues /suggestion he can pm or post a new topic .
sounds fine or not ?
by the way my another noobish batch attempt is in your pm somewhere since a month now , had any time to see it ? it was a boot fixing thing..
Posted 19 November 2009 - 03:37 PM
Posted 19 November 2009 - 04:13 PM
Where did the original post go?!
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It says I was the "topic starter" and it is pinned...
Posted 26 November 2010 - 03:06 AM
Posted 26 November 2010 - 11:26 AM
Unetbootin:
http://www.boot-land...hp?showforum=79
DOES NOT make a USB stick bootable, it only helps in making an ALREADY made bootable stick become an install media for a number of Operating Systems.
FAQs
How does UNetbootin work, and what does it do?
For the Live USB creation mode, UNetbootin downloads and extracts an ISO file to your USB drive, generates an appropriate syslinux config file, and makes your USB drive bootable using syslinux.
For the Hard Disk / "frugal install" mode, UNetbootin uses a Windows or Linux-based installer to install a small modification to the bootloader (bootmgr and bcdedit on Vista, grldr and boot.ini for NT-based systems, grub.exe and config.sys for Win9x, or GRUB on Linux, uses the bootloader to boot the desired distribution's installer or to load the system utility, no CD required. After the distribution has been installed, or once done using the system utility, the modification to the bootloader is then undone.
Posted 26 November 2010 - 11:52 AM
NO, it doesn't.Jaclaz, it does make a USB stick bootable, using syslinux. Of course for the sole purpose of making a Live USB stick.
I've used it, see FAQ section here: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
Posted 27 November 2010 - 06:39 AM
NO, it doesn't.
A stick when it comes from the factory, it is usually NOT partitioned and formatted as FAT32 as "superfloppy".
*something* must:
- delete the superfloppy filesystem
- write a MBR
- write one (or more) partition entries in the MBR partition table
- format at least first, active, primary partition
Under Linux, this is possible with "system tools".
Under NT based systems up to XP/2003 this is NOT possible with "system tools" (due to the "Removable bit", it becomes possible using a filter driver or "flipping the bit").
Starting from Vista :)/7 this should be possible with Diskpart.
The good news are that once the stick has a MBR and a partition table all NT based systems will be able to "deal with it" properly (at least for first, active partition).
The bad news are that a number of BIOS will have problems with these sticks partitioned with "standard tools".
All the recommended utilities have different ( ADDITIONAL to the standard tools) settings/tricks/code/whatever to attempt being able to boot to a wider number of systems.
So, if you mean that Unetbootin can make bootable a partitioned stick, you are correct.
I do agree Unetbootin has a very specific purpose, however it does seem the author intended
But since most (please read as 99.999%) sticks will come as NOT partitioned, it WON'T make them bootable, or, to be more exact, it WON'T make them bootable as HD-like device, a setting that roughly 97.86% of motherboards need and that 99.83% of the Tutorials you can find here also need.
So, if you have ALL your motherboards in the 2.14% range AND you plan to use on the baran new stick ONLY the 0.17% of tutorials/guides/methods you can find on boot-land, you are very welcome to use Unetbootin ONLY.
If you check the screenshots, you will see that in examples the target is eithe D:\ under windows or /dev/sdc1 under Linux, in other words, Unetbootin deals with \\.\LogicalDrive and NOT with \\.\PhysicalDrives, or if you prefer with Volumes and NOT with Disks.
If using a "normal" stick, you will find yourself with a perfectly bootable with syslinux/isolinux volume, that your BIOS will NOT be able to boot
(NOT always, but in about 97.86% of cases
).
Wonko
Edited by breaker, 27 November 2010 - 07:15 AM.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 08:23 AM
Since I don't have the scope yet of all of this, are there some tools that use the nomenclature you wrote here: \\.\Logical \\.\Physical ??
Edited by breaker, 27 November 2010 - 09:07 AM.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 09:57 AM
Yup, zeroed out a 1G UFD, used uNetbootin - Dell says no boot sector on usb device... Tiny Hexer still shows all zeros on the device.
Edited by breaker, 27 November 2010 - 10:01 AM.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 10:10 AM
Yep.EDIT: Reading about diskpart in XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300415
Yup, zeroed out a 1G UFD, used uNetbootin - Dell says no boot sector on usb device... Tiny Hexer still shows all zeros on the device.
Yeah, I probably used Gparted or something similar on a lot of my UFD at some point to write the ms-dos boot label.
Interesting. I never knew. What's interesting is this is possible with DOS system tools. The first bootable stick I made I did with a DOS USB driver, Win98 DOS fdisk, format, and sys.com. Now it boots up as drive "C:" I did this with the Win98 SE tools. I even get the Win98 startup logo. Do you know where that logo lives? The mbr, vbr, io.sys?
Posted 27 November 2010 - 10:32 AM
Yep.
JFYI:
HdHacker:
http://dimio.altervi.../eng/index.html
DSFOK toolkit:
http://members.ozema...eezip/freeware/
Just to show how most of these infos are NOT exactly "news", a (nice) paper from 2005
:
http://jaclaz.alterv...B/USBstick.html
You must be joking.
It's one of the most talket topic about IO.SYS:
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=77019
Are you trying to establish a record for thread hijacking or what?
AFAIK the GX260 (one of the most uncompatible BIOS ever made) is EXACTLY part of the mentioned 2.14%.
Wonko
Edited by breaker, 27 November 2010 - 10:34 AM.
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