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#1 ministings

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:29 AM

My younger sister forgot her computer login password and she asked me to help her out. I heard Ultimate Boot CD is a good tool to do that and made a bootable CD with the program. However, the password is still in there after reset. 

 

I tried 3 times with the same result. So please suggest a good alternative. 



#2 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 10:07 AM

I don't think that the UBCD has directly a provision to reset a Windows 10 password. :unsure:

 

You used the NT Registry boot disk on the UBCD?

 

Anyway, we need to know the exact version of Windows 10 at hand.

 

Some versions are covered by the (grub4dos based) PassPass:

http://reboot.pro/to...s-the-password/

http://www.easy2boot...-isos/passpass/

 

Or you can use the "utilman trick" (mentioned in the above):

http://www.easy2boot...d-files/utilman

if you have a Windows 10 .iso.

 

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#3 erwan.l

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 11:30 AM

I have been using ntpwedit for years with success (latest version is 0.7).

Build a winpe (any), "stuff" ntpwedit in there and you should be good to go.

You can also use QuickPE to build your winpe.

 

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#4 ministings

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 01:36 AM

I have been using ntpwedit for years with success (latest version is 0.7).

Build a winpe (any), "stuff" ntpwedit in there and you should be good to go.

You can also use QuickPE to build your winpe.

 

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What is the difference between QuickPE and password reset disk?


Edited by ministings, 04 November 2017 - 01:36 AM.


#5 Wonko the Sane

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 12:36 PM

What is the difference between QuickPE and password reset disk?

In a nutshell.

 

A windows (Vista/7/8/10) install DVD boots to a (minimal) PE (Pre-install Environment).

From it you can manually perform a number of steps that allow you to reset a password.

QuickPE is one (among a few) "builder" that allows to create (still starting from an install DVD/.iso) a slightly more "complete" PE, allowing in the process to add additional tools/programs (such as the recommended NTPWedit) that can provide the same ultimate functionality (resetting a password)  in an "easier" way.

 

The tradeoff is between the (minimal) complication of building a new PE and later having an easier password reset vs. using what you already have (the install DVD/.iso) and have a (slightly) more complex set of steps to perform the password reset.

 

For a one time only use (and provided you already have an install DVD or can easily "burn" one from a .iso) I would go for the second, if you plan to create something that may come of use also in the future, the first is more advised (as it will constitute a "more featured" recovery environment suitable for solving possible future issues of different nature).

 

The other proposed option of PassPass (if applicable) is slightly different as - it doesn't actually "reset" the password, but rather it "by-passes" it.

 

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 12:43 PM

Note : starting with windows 8.x, "fast startup" mode was introduced (an hibernation mode).

 

Introducing changes (while offline) to your filesystem when windows is in "fast statup" mode is not recommended : at worse, you can corrupt your filesystem, at best your changes will be ignored.

 

Workaround (quoting from another forum which I cannot reference) : "first boot to Windows and restart normally from the log in screen ( don't shutdown - restart and immediately boot to PE )".

 

Latest NTPWEdit versions warns the user about this hibernation trick.

NTPWEdit url here.

 

Regards,

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 03:06 AM

Note : starting with windows 8.x, "fast startup" mode was introduced (an hibernation mode).

 

Introducing changes (while offline) to your filesystem when windows is in "fast statup" mode is not recommended : at worse, you can corrupt your filesystem, at best your changes will be ignored.

 

Workaround (quoting from another forum which I cannot reference) : "first boot to Windows and restart normally from the log in screen ( don't shutdown - restart and immediately boot to PE )".

 

Latest NTPWEdit versions warns the user about this hibernation trick.

NTPWEdit url here.

 

Regards,

Erwan

 

 

have you tried ntpassword or ophcrack ?  they're free and easy to use!


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:00 PM

Are we talking about a LOCAL password, or a windows 10, but MICROSOFT login.  For a lot of folks, they can't figure out how to (or even that they should) skip the whole MS "login" process and just create a local account.  Not sure if any of the registry based tools work on the password at MS...

 

But for all the experts here, please correct me if I am wrong...



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Posted 12 November 2017 - 02:04 PM

i believe that even when using microsoft "online" account, there is a local account (at least an admin one).


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