[Solved!] Audio in LiveXP - [No] Problem!
#1
Posted 19 May 2008 - 02:08 AM
Creative Audigy working in LiveXP:
Drive errors:
#2
Posted 19 May 2008 - 07:35 AM
They are both used to make a drive detected by windows as "removable" appear as "fixed".
jaclaz
#3
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:09 AM
Cool effect amalux!
Have never seen anything like it.
If you find out what exactly causes this, it would a very valuable information. As it would allow us to set the drive type to our liking.
Are you still using your 'extended' MPlayer script to get sound working?
#4
Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:00 AM
Interesting idea, I'll see if I can figure out how to apply it in this case. Thanks JaclazDefinitely NOT what you asked, but what if you try using a filter driver like the Hitachi Microdrive cfadisk.sys or Anton Bassov's dummydisk.sys?
They are both used to make a drive detected by windows as "removable" appear as "fixed".
jaclaz
#5
Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:20 AM
You mean, my biggest headache could be a useful tool to others? cool...Cool effect amalux!
Have never seen anything like it.
If you find out what exactly causes this, it would a very valuable information. As it would allow us to set the drive type to our liking.
...
Yes but only until I work out the bugs in this, hopefully, 'universal' solutionAre you still using your 'extended' MPlayer script to get sound working?
#6
Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:36 AM
Yep, nobody is useless! One can alwys still serve as a bad example!You mean, my biggest headache could be a useful tool to others? cool...
The reason i ask is, you don't set any registry entries in it, while the AIO script does. Maybe the problem is related to this.Yes but only until I work out the bugs in this, hopefully, 'universal' solution
#7
Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:47 AM
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=21113
and here is the original .inf by Dietmar (for full XP):
http://www.pcreview....ead-2213125.php
dummydisk.sys should be similar.
Links:
http://xpefiles.com/...e/entry616.aspx
http://www.codeproje...ct_hooking.aspx
A reverse-dummydisk (to make "removable" a "fixed" drive) is part of the USB multiboot:
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=20089
jaclaz
#8
Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:56 AM
Always nice to hear your not 'useless'Yep, nobody is useless! One can alwys still serve as a bad example!
Problem occurs with or without MPlayer script included. I am getting a new error with the MPlayer script, 'dsound.dll not found', it's there. I'll look into that once this current issue is resolved.The reason i ask is, you don't set any registry entries in it, while the AIO script does. Maybe the problem is related to this.
#9
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:05 PM
OK, I've got some reading to do, thanks JaclazIf it's useful a BartPE plugin for cfadisk.sys by cdob is here:
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=21113
and here is the original .inf by Dietmar (for full XP):
http://www.pcreview....ead-2213125.php
dummydisk.sys should be similar.
Links:
http://xpefiles.com/...e/entry616.aspx
http://www.codeproje...ct_hooking.aspx
A reverse-dummydisk (to make "removable" a "fixed" drive) is part of the USB multiboot:
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=20089
jaclaz
#10
Posted 19 May 2008 - 11:36 PM
Don't be so modest!Always nice to hear your not 'useless'
So it's not a sound related problem but a general LiveXP error?Problem occurs with or without MPlayer script included. I am getting a new error with the MPlayer script, 'dsound.dll not found', it's there. I'll look into that once this current issue is resolved.
#11
Posted 20 May 2008 - 06:34 AM
It's 'sound related' in the sense that, the problem (hard drives showing up as removable drives in PE), only occurs when including audio support in livexp. The culprit seems to be hwpnp.exe which causes this result even if run as a stand alone startup item or if xpe-pnp multimedia script is included. The problem isn't loading the required drivers, it's getting the audio hardware recognized without causing this unwanted 'side effect'. Isolating hwpnp to the audio card [ +PCI\VEN_1102 -IDE -PCIIDE -@NET /r] still produces same error with the ide drives. Is there another way to accomplish this without calling hwpnp.exe?So it's not a sound related problem but a general LiveXP error?
#12
Posted 20 May 2008 - 12:36 PM
Does this cause the same problem?
If not, it's not the fault of HwPnP.exe
btw. You could also try NaughtyPE, to see if you get the same weird behavior.
#13
Posted 20 May 2008 - 05:29 PM
I'll test this and let you know...Amalux, have you tryed, what happens if you build LiveXP without sound support, but with HwPnP.exe?
Does this cause the same problem?
If not, it's not the fault of HwPnP.exe
If I download/run reccomended NaughtyPE and leave everything as it defaults I get errors and cannot complete the build to test I can post more details (if wanted); it looks like a great project and I was hoping to use it but when I ran into trouble I decided to focus on support in LiveXP.btw. You could also try NaughtyPE, to see if you get the same weird behavior.
#14
Posted 20 May 2008 - 07:16 PM
If I download/run reccomended NaughtyPE and leave everything as it defaults I get errors and cannot complete the build to test
Yes, please!!!I can post more details
#15
Posted 20 May 2008 - 11:56 PM
Just downloaded again and it's working!
Yes, please!!!
Really nice package and you've solved the two major problems I'm wrestling with! Audio supported and no drive errors, sweet. Now I just have to figure out how you did it
There are a few minor things, I get a bunch of (7-8) cmd window pop-ups during the build (xpe-pnp multimedia script) prompting to overwrite files, I'll see if there's a way to automate this (I got the same thing using that script in livexp). There's a few errors in the log, I patched MMC with CopyOrExpand,"%source_win%\URLMON.DLL","%target_sys%" to get rid of the one but I'm not sure what's going on with the 'ActiveShell'; I'll look at it later tonight when I have some time. Great job on the project! I love it, very naughty indeed
#16
Posted 21 May 2008 - 01:46 PM
What were you thinking, scaring the bejesus out of an old man? That'll cost you, at least a round for the whole gang!Just downloaded again and it's working!
#17
Posted 22 May 2008 - 01:23 AM
Anytime my friend...That'll cost you, at least a round for the whole gang!
I am having a tough time, little things, like the annoying cmd prompts from XPE Multimedia and the ActiveShell errors, etc. were easy to resolve but I'm still struggling with a USB mouse that won't work (the USB_Support script should take care of this as it does in LiveXP) and I'm getting a number of 'unsigned driver' pop-ups which should be suppressed by the included DriverSigning script but aren't.
The real problem is trying to use BootSDI (a must for me); I'm getting log errors, like:
TxtAddLine - Failed to add line to file: [%BaseDir%\ISO\Ram\WINNT.SIF] line: [[SetupData]] TxtAddLine - Failed to add line to file: [%BaseDir%\ISO\Ram\WINNT.SIF] line: [BootDevice="ramdisk(0)"] TxtAddLine - Failed to add line to file: [%BaseDir%\ISO\Ram\WINNT.SIF] line: [BootPath="\i386\System32\"] TxtAddLine - Failed to add line to file: [%BaseDir%\ISO\Ram\WINNT.SIF] line: [OsLoadOptions="/noguiboot /fastdetect /minint /rdexportashd /rdpath=\i386\BootSDI.img"]or pop-up errors, like: Error - TXTAddLine,"%TmpScript%","[dummy]","Place",2 which result in no image creation at all.
I'm not complaining or giving up, I'm just having a tougher time than I expected and I'm still no closer to audio support (without 'side effects') in LiveXP as well. A lot of these issues just don't make sense to me due to my lack of knowledge in this area and that's what is frustrating to me
I'm gonna keep trying and any suggestions or corrections are greatly appreciated as always!
#18
Posted 22 May 2008 - 01:09 PM
If i were you, i would first put myself a LiveXP core together and check that everything, i want, still works, else have a talk with Galapo to figure out where the error lies.
Only once you have a tested and proven reliable core, you can start adding and know that any problem is directly related to your newly added scripts.
#19
Posted 22 May 2008 - 01:29 PM
Nice for you that it is working.Just downloaded again and it's working!
But I feel very uncomfortable with 'Suddenly it is working and nobody knows why'
Can you try to reproduce the old non-working status and then try to find out what happens to bring it to work?
Peter
#20
Posted 22 May 2008 - 01:35 PM
This error is caused by a problem with vdk /vdk_WB.or pop-up errors, like: Error - TXTAddLine,"%TmpScript%","[dummy]","Place",2 which result in no image creation at all.
Maybe a reboot helps, maybe you must stop the vdk service by MMC.
I'm already thinking since a while to do something avoiding this 'feature' but until now I did not find a reasonable solution.
Peter
#21
Posted 22 May 2008 - 01:38 PM
As far as I remember, you are not a newbieThe real problem is trying to use BootSDI (a must for me); I'm getting log errors, like:
TxtAddLine - Failed to add line to file: [%BaseDir%\ISO\Ram\WINNT.SIF] line: [[SetupData]] TxtAddLine - Failed to add line to file: [%BaseDir%\ISO\Ram\WINNT.SIF] line: [BootDevice="ramdisk(0)"] TxtAddLine - Failed to add line to file: [%BaseDir%\ISO\Ram\WINNT.SIF] line: [BootPath="\i386\System32\"] TxtAddLine - Failed to add line to file: [%BaseDir%\ISO\Ram\WINNT.SIF] line: [OsLoadOptions="/noguiboot /fastdetect /minint /rdexportashd /rdpath=\i386\BootSDI.img"]
A newbie I would tell now: Read the forum's rules and post the log!
Peter
#22
Posted 22 May 2008 - 03:45 PM
Sorry to confuse the issue, the NPE stuff should be kept for a differant topic. The issue of this topic is getting audio support in LiveXP without the side effect of hard drives being seen as removable in PE.Are those all error/Problems you find in your patched LiveXP or are you talking about problems in NaughtyPE?
Yes, I have a proven, reliable LiveXP core that I'm trying to add audio support for and have isolated the issue to adding any script that employs hwpnp.exe which causes fixed hard drives to be seen as removable in PE. BTW, this only affects how the drives are 'seen' in PE. The drives themselves are unaffected and 'go back to normal' when host is rebooted.If i were you, i would first put myself a LiveXP core together and check that everything, i want, still works, else have a talk with Galapo to figure out where the error lies.
Only once you have a tested and proven reliable core, you can start adding and know that any problem is directly related to your newly added scripts.
#23
Posted 22 May 2008 - 03:48 PM
My error, I forgot the variable of including BootSDINice for you that it is working.
But I feel very uncomfortable with 'Suddenly it is working and nobody knows why'
Can you try to reproduce the old non-working status and then try to find out what happens to bring it to work?
Peter
#24
Posted 22 May 2008 - 03:51 PM
Amalux!Yes, I have a proven, reliable LiveXP core that I'm trying to add audio support for and have isolated the issue to adding any script that employs hwpnp.exe which causes fixed hard drives to be seen as removable in PE. BTW, this only affects how the drives are 'seen' in PE. The drives themselves are unaffected and 'go back to normal' when host is rebooted.
In spite that my previous post may be interpreted as kidding, I meant it seriously.
I think that there is something in the 'project build history' which causes that result.
And to look into the 'history' the log is needed.
Peter
#25
Posted 22 May 2008 - 03:51 PM
I thought I had stopped the service but I will keep a closer eye on thisThis error is caused by a problem with vdk /vdk_WB.
Maybe a reboot helps, maybe you must stop the vdk service by MMC.
I'm already thinking since a while to do something avoiding this 'feature' but until now I did not find a reasonable solution.
Peter
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