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[SmOoThEm]

My goal is to make part1 winpe that boots norton ghost as the shell and then restores and images to the 2nd part.
i have created the pe that does this now on to the problem.

Well i have done all of this so far and i have been working on this all day without prevail ( im seriously pulling my hair out now)
I have formatted the drive completely
Made 2 partitions with NTFS
made part 1 active and placed all the boot files on there from my windows xp install
imaged my xp back onto part 2 for testing purposes
Now when i use the ntldr from PE it boots fine, when i use the NTLDR from xp it shows the boot.ini GREAT
When i select win xp it boots (great)
When i select Windows PE from the boot.ini it gives me a <windows root>\system32\hal.dll error

How can i make this boot from the boot.ini without switching the NTLDR?
below is a copy of my boot.ini

[boot loader]

timeout=30

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

C:\BOOTSECT.DAT="Recovery"

My ultimate goal is to get the Ghost pe to run from part2 so i can add this to a computer on the fly and simply get users to restore their computer by selecting
an option in the boot.ini and it images their computer back to the usable state. Can anyone help?

[was_jaclaz]

I would gladly try to help you, but I am failing to understand fully your current setup and the overall use of this.

I mean let's forget for one moment what you did till now, does this represent what you want to do?:
Two partitions (BOTH visible)
First partition (ACTIVE) with XP boot files (NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM BOOT.INI) AND PE bootones (SETUPLDR.BIN, TXTSETUP.SIF) + the PE SYSTEM ones i.e. \minint directory + whatever you beed to reimage second partition
Second partition with XP SYSTEM files i.e. \windows directory and every "normal" install.

Now back to what you did.
Did you just tried installing the PE system (without the NTLDR+BOOT.INI) and it did work?
How did you create the BOOTSECT.DAT file?
Is there any reason why first (boot) partition should be NTFS?

Quick (preventive) reply:
1) easier would be to use grub4dos grldr, chainloaded via boot.ini, to chainload the SETUPLDR.BIN of the PE system
2) a possible solution, if first partition can be FAT16 or 32 is this eperimental thingy here (no NTFS support for the moment, may be added later):
http://www.boot-land...EASE-t2362.html

jaclaz

[SmOoThEm]

Well heres an update, i got this to work using grub, but my problem is part 1 was pe and part 2 was xp. I need these fliped
I got xp installed and i put pe on the second partition but when i try to load it i get to the loading screen and i get the txtsetup.tif is corrupt or missing status 14 error and its in the same folder as the setupldr its loading from. Any ideas?

[SmOoThEm]

Well heres an update, i put the same files on the c:\ drive aka part 1 and it booted just fine. For some reason its marryied to the first partition. Does anyone know how i can change this?

[was_jaclaz]

I don't want to seem rude, believe me , but the general idea is that to get help you need to give the details of what you are failing to accomplish, it is easier to assist if one knows what has been done, without information one has to do "guess" work, that, besides being more difficult, can lead to unappropriate suggestions.

Moreover, a well detailed request and (hopefully) solution might help other members to solve their own similar problems.

However, from the little I can get of your problem, you should be able to get the steps you missed from this thread:
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=11150

and from this (seemingly unrelated one):
http://www.msfn.org/...topic=61384&hl=


jaclaz

[SmOoThEm]

I dont know what i have not explained to you but i will try to give as much detail as possible about my problem.

My ultimate goal here is to have windows xp installed on the main active partition 1 and to have the windows pe installed on a second partition (Restore Partition) to restore the main partition from a ghost image at the users will simply using a boot option.

What i have done is this
i have installed windows xp on the main active partition dubbed Partition 1 (Personal)
i have installed windows pe on the second partition dubbed Partition 2 (Restore)
I have added grub to the personal side and added the options for booting windows xp and windows pe in that menu and the options are correct using menu.lst examples from this website
Windows xp loads correctly when i select it from the boot menu
When i select windows pe from the boot menu, it loads the setupldr from the second partition in the minint folder and then give this error txtsetup.tif is corrupt or missing status 14
I copy the same folder over minint to the Personal side (primary partition 1) and they both boot up correctly.


There seems to be something in the windows pe files that makes it look at partition one for the boot files. How can i change this?

[was_jaclaz]

and added the options for booting windows xp and windows pe in that menu

Yep, what I meant was that most probably you just made booting entries in menu.lst, but if you do not post your menu.lst it is just a guess in my side.

You might want to try exchange partitions before booting PE, or mapping the second partition to a new drive and exchange the order of them.

On the referenced thread on MSFN you will find a few examples of how to do the latter, as a base for experimenting.

jaclaz

[SmOoThEm]

I simply want to boot pe from the 2nd non active partition and be able to use norton ghost to reimage the 1st partiton. I dont want windows on the 2nd partiton so i can add this method on the fly to an already installed windows. Any help?

[was_jaclaz]

Ok, let's see if I can explain this in plain English.

1) By now, I have got an idea of what you would like to do.
2) you said you had a problem with grub4dos menu.lst entries:

I have added grub to the personal side and added the options for booting windows xp and windows pe in that menu and the options are correct using menu.lst examples from this website
Windows xp loads correctly when i select it from the boot menu
When i select windows pe from the boot menu, it loads the setupldr from the second partition in the minint folder and then give this error txtsetup.tif is corrupt or missing status 14

Now, HOW do you expect anyone to be able to help you if you don't post the menu.lst entries you made (and that are failing)?
Please do review the "common sense" advice given in the Board Rules:
http://www.boot-land...?act=boardrules
with particular attention to point f.
3) the whole idea of this place is trying (while having fun ) to exchange ideas and knowledge, this is no "question time", people come here and try helping others in such a way that this help can be useful to other people, they are not coming here to solve your problem
4) There is NO pre-made solution for your question that I know of, but there are similar things already accomplished, one of this is here:
http://www.911cd.net...o...c=18031&hl=

Please do try the solution suggested on the referenced thread, and if it does not work, for any reason, feel free to post here or there your requests, giving details of what you have already done, so that it will be easier to spot an error and once (hopefully) successful, the thread will contain info enough to be of use for other people that might have the same or a similar problem.

jaclaz

[Shirin Zaban]

I simply want to boot pe from the 2nd non active partition and be able to use norton ghost to reimage the 1st partiton. I dont want windows on the 2nd partiton so i can add this method on the fly to an already installed windows. Any help?

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Hi SmOoThEm

I have read your question several times. Your question is not clear!!
But ,If you mean to have windows XP in one partition,and a bootable image in other partition
so that bootable image can do the ghost action,and can restor or take image of your XP partition,
you can do as below:

1. Install XP in second partition.
2. Download Aero Studio 2007,make abootable iso by that and put ghost 11 files on it,then use the
Avlgomgr in aero studio to run that image from first partition.
3. Know if you can work succesfuly you will have two options in your boot.ini: loading XP or loading
image you have made.
4.aero studio can run bootable images (ofcourse not all images for example setupldr.bin),now you will
be able to boot by aero iso,use ghost32 v11(or other program) to take image of your XP partition,
and save the image in 1st partition (if you just have two partitions),and when needed you can restore
in the same manner.

hope this will help,for using aero studio,i havewritten a small tutorial,in tutorial section of site
have fun
shirin