how to make vista boot CD Tried to understand
#26
Posted 28 December 2010 - 03:49 AM
#27
Posted 28 December 2010 - 04:17 AM
Windows Vista is actually an unstable beta version of Windows, which is why it was soon by Microsoft replaced with the more stable Windows 7, plus MS stopping support last April for any Vista implementation which hath not SP2, altho they are charging a lot for your rectifying their mistakes if you want to get Win 7.
As to the suggestion that I try to migrate Win 7 and run it on 2 machines, that would not only be illegal, but MS company would detect it when I went online and not give me any updates or let me run its nifty apps.
In defense of Vista, any OS will fail if you mess it up. I really resent being jacked up by Microsoft to buy a new version of its OS for big bux, and it is not the first time Vista on my machine had to be repaired by me. Before this it was the Windows updates that were crashing it. In its defense, Microsoft did offer email support, but the solutions did not work and I found it more convenient to roll back to a restore point, than to continue to correspond with the technician. It is not my job nor am I paid to beta test Windows Vista.
#28
Posted 28 December 2010 - 01:35 PM
Later that particular package download was extended till Dec. 31, 2010 - i.e. it was available for almost 1.5 year. This is old news bud - it seems like you're running almost late for it (catch up with Michael Pietroforte bot next time), yet may be able to test Win 8 next year.
#29
Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:23 AM
JFYI:
http://www.msfn.org/...xp/page__st__12
Wonko
#30
Posted 29 December 2010 - 04:27 PM
#31
Posted 29 December 2010 - 04:38 PM
Doesn't one have to be an "engineer" to understand that explanation?
Not really.
We can use a layman's comparison allright.
Imagine a large funnel hovering over (suspended by some ropes attached to the ceiling) a (very large) bottle (perfectly centered of the bottle opening but not inserted into it).
The bottle is resting on a three legged table (but is nonetheless attached to a "loose" rope also fixed to the ceiling, long enough that the bottle cannot reach the ground).
Fill the funnel by pouring from another largish container some liquid faster than what can escape the funnel end.
At this time Eric Cantona enters the room, and you ask him to kick one of the table legs, HARD.
Would you blame the bottle for the spilling that would result?
Wonko
#32
Posted 03 January 2011 - 02:39 AM
#33
Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:03 AM
#34
Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:05 AM
#35
Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:49 AM
Instead of using the USB, I decided to use Windows.old/Windows/System32/*.nls So using Knoppix did overwrite all nls files in C:\Windows\System32 and now the error is that winload.exe is missing or corrupt or something, so rebooting again with knoppix and going to overwrite it also.
#36
Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:00 AM
#37
Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:10 AM
#38
Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:14 AM
#39
Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:17 AM
#40
Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:19 AM
I think Wonko quite accurately described your (or mine, i.e. our) problem. There seems to be no viable solution for it.
#41
Posted 03 January 2011 - 09:18 AM
Sure there are solutions for it.There seems to be no viable solution for it.
The most easy being the one already suggested:
- recover DATA
- re-install Vista
What whatsanike did was not however try to do things with order, method and reason, but rather throw anything that came into his mind at that hard disk, doing probably more harm with some "random" attempts that was the actual original damage to the filesystem.
Just for the record, the most senseless thing to do was to run the attrib command on ALL files because CHKDSK protested it couldnt fix something because of "read only mode":
http://reboot.pro/13473/page__st__17
in this case what CHKDSK is trying to tell you is that you ran it WITHOUT the /F parameter and that without it it cannot correct some errors.
The "fix" for that error message is to run CHKDSK /F and NOT to run attrib on the whole lot of files.
Until you are not double sure that you have a seemingly error free filesystem, attempting booting from it is "looking for troubles".
And in any case, when disasters like this happen, first salvage all data you can, remember that *something*, though worse than *everything* is MUCH better than *nothing*.
Wonko
#42
Posted 03 January 2011 - 01:17 PM
Anyway now windows seems to be missing some files necessary to reinstall so it aborted the repair, and now the message on boot is BOOTMGR...MISSING...
#43
Posted 03 January 2011 - 01:35 PM
Not really, but attrib does change "flags" at filesystem level (actual bytes on disk).So based on that just previous post, i likely corrupted some files running chkdsk after attrib -r *.* /s /d
If the filesystem is corrupted and pointers to WHERE the flag to be written is are "wrong", it is likely that the "new flag" is written in the "wrong place", likely corrupting "another" file or filesystyem structure.
It is more likely that running attrib can have done more damage.
And for all we know a number of files are set to a particular state, like System or Hidden, for a Reason and I wouldn't exclude that Vista expects some files to actually be system or hidden or both.
Which brings you back to:Anyway now windows seems to be missing some files necessary to reinstall so it aborted the repair, and now the message on boot is BOOTMGR...MISSING...
- save DATA
- re-format
- re-install
Curing (as opposed to beating) a dead horse is a much more politically correct activity , but it still has very little practical results, unfortunately.
Wonko
#44
Posted 03 January 2011 - 01:36 PM
bcdedit /export C:\BCD_Backup
ren c:\boot\bcd bcd.old
bootrec /rebuildbcd
"Total identified Windows installations: 0"
Now I want to try replacing the backup partition contents by copying all the files in it from another Vista installation. If I do that maybe the re-install from the CD will work?
#45
Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:32 PM
How about beating an incurable horseman?Curing (as opposed to beating) a dead horse is a much more politically correct activity , but it still has very little practical results, unfortunately. :
#46
Posted 03 January 2011 - 09:03 PM
IF you have saved what data you could,
& IF you have the original Vista recovery disks for your pc,
then WHY wouldn't you reformat & reinstall the os?
When you install the os, it sets up all drivers for hardware- mobo, drives, video, etc. Unless your "another Vista installation" is from a pc with the EXACT same hardware, it won't work. OEM (original equipment manufacturer) recovery disks or partitions will only work with the original pc - they only load "stock" drivers. So a disk (or partition) for a dell inspiron model "xxx" will restore a dell inspiron model "xxx", NOT a gateway, (or even a dell "YYY")
If Wonko "advises" you to start over, do it. (you posted here for advice, listen to the man - he knows more about this than you or I)
#47
Posted 04 January 2011 - 02:53 AM
An odd thing did happen when I tilted my computer to plug in the ethernet cable to the cable router. It lost electric power and then forced me to create a new user account on reboot. I did not find any loose connection. But now, at least for now, I have the OS up and ruining.
#48
Posted 04 January 2011 - 03:01 AM
#49
Posted 04 January 2011 - 03:04 AM
#50
Posted 04 January 2011 - 10:07 AM
That is good, it is meant to protect your privacy.And how's this for weird? Windows 7 on my laptop "There are problems on your computer that have not been reported to Microsoft".
You don't want all the peeps at Microsoft know that you are doing random things to their OS, don't you?
Wonko
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