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#26
Posted 30 July 2011 - 07:41 PM
Well, generally speaking, you are supposed to NOT edit a bootable iso and re-build it from scratch.
Mind you, editing might work, but sometimes doesn't .
I presume this is what is happening to you, there are a number of complexities in editing a .iso and both Ultraiso and Poweriso, though nice, are not exactly an example of "linearity" or "standard".
If there is another gui way of remaking the iso with my wim file I'd be glad to know it.
#27
Posted 30 July 2011 - 08:22 PM
then just rerun the Create ISO
I think this is how it works, its been awhile since i have used this
hope this helps
#28
Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:35 PM
In Winbuilder script view,, try the Utils folder for Mount.script for Mounting and UnMounting, making changes to your build
then just rerun the Create ISO
You are my hero today! It really works.
When a question is answered, there are more coming.
Is it possible to create PE (XP or 7) in different language than English. I want to make an environment that will be understandable for those who don't know other languages. And this leads to another question. Is it possible to change writing languages? Some apps may be in English, other in Bulgarian. Usually different options, menus or buttons have hotkeys that activate them without tabbing 10 times to reach them. It makes the user work faster and this is why such option is needed.
Next question will be about adding drivers, but in another post.
#29
Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:25 PM
I am only a user and not a developer,
Win7PE-SE is a project I have followed for years. And I have only used English host and sources.
Win7PE_SE has been in constant development for years. Things change daily with little documentation some times.
Mounting and making changes then UnMounting along with RegEdit and then being able to Create ISO again without running a complete rebuild makes personalizing your build and testing easy.
In Main Configuration you will find
System locale – (default is Auto) Bulgarian French is listed
Because I have never build using other languages I can not answer all your questions.
Drivers. there is more than one option for adding drives. you can add drivers packs (links in Script view) Driver Intergration script .. just ask you will get lost of help.
I wish you good luck and remember have fun……….
#30
Posted 31 July 2011 - 03:12 PM
You come back again with good answer.
Win7PE_SE has been in constant development for years. Things change daily with little documentation some times.
Unfortunately what you say about the documentation it's true for newcomers. Also the accessibility can be improved. It's reasonably well, but there is more to be desired. Sometimes I lost in all this settings and it's hard to find which label goes to which setting.
Mounting and making changes then UnMounting along with RegEdit and then being able to Create ISO again without running a complete rebuild makes personalizing your build and testing easy.
Yes, it's true also. But you open another interesting question about regedit. Where exactly the registry is loaded and how it can be edited?
In Main Configuration you will find
System locale – (default is Auto) Bulgarian French is listed
Thank you! Now I know where to change languages. Unfortunately there's no Bulgarian - it's Belgian French. But what's the difference between "auto" and "default"? If I select Windows DVD with Bulgarian interface as a source, which of this should I choose?
Because I have never build using other languages I can not answer all your questions.
Don't worry. If you don't know the answer, hope someone else will jump in.
Drivers. there is more than one option for adding drives. you can add drivers packs (links in Script view) Driver Integration script .. just ask you will get lost of help.
Ok, first I suppose that the drivers from the driver packs don't have to be unzipped, right?
Second, what if I don't find windows7 drivers for my motherboard? Would I be able to hear a sound from my built-in sound card?
Is there such a thing as generic drivers that will work with the different devices without installing these from different manufacturers?
#31
Posted 31 July 2011 - 04:16 PM
Documentation evolves one change may affect many script. So for someone to sits down today and document building process and how scripts work it may be different next version.
RegEdit
Most of your questions can be answered by clicking Advanced Options in script Interface
Backup, edit, delete, export, edit hives
Audio in script view it give you options to add “Additional drivers”
My motherboard uses the Realteck High definition Audio Drives
Available – post 1 Win7PE_SE Release as a add on package
Driver Packages Installer has option to unpack
Driver Integration asks for drivers to be unpacked
Most scripts have many options, you have to pick what you want in your build and what works best for you.
Good luck ..
#32
Posted 11 August 2011 - 06:16 PM
Unfortunatelly, when trying to explain in a different topic, the forum's software decided to send the text of 30 minutes writing into Nirwana. Therfore here just a short "HowTo", before I try to rewrite the whole description.
- Download the latest nativeEx_multiPE project and unzip into your WinBuilder directory.
- Start WinBuilder and define the source CD as usual
- Select nativeEx_multiPE > Core Apps> Accessibility > myNVDA
That will bring a clone of your local installed NVDA into the PE, including your personal customisations.
Portable version of NVDA is not yet supported. There are no personal informations. But I'm working on combining
If you do not have VirtualBox installed on your PC, you know the alternities: VMWare, or burn CD or ...
To avoid misunderstandings: This package currently works ONLY when your host is XP and the source CD is XP / W2003 only. I'm working on expansion.
Peter
#33
Posted 13 October 2011 - 06:50 PM
#34
Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:00 PM
Thanks (not only polite thanks, but emotional thanks) for your post.
I spent a lot of time to add the "accessibility" part to the project. And right now I did not get such response like yours.
I'm willing and ready to bring this functionality to perfection.
For that I suggest, to put the whole above post into background, and do step by step requests I'll try to solve.
That makes it easier for both of us.
Maybe I create a new topic "Accessibility" from your response. So, search for that ...
BTW: Currently I am the only programmer of WinBuilder.exe.
Peter
#35
Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:33 PM
#36
Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:35 PM
I'm replying to this topic to somehow in words, show my appreciation of winbuilder, the program itself.
I do really appreciate it that, you've added accessibility to multiPE since I agree that it will make it alot more easier for newcommers with visual impairments to enjoy the luxury of having a live OS with screenreader support.
To be honest, I wasn't sure who developed winbuilder, but if you do read my other posts asking for help, I always try to thank everybody who makes this place what it is.
When I first arrived here, I saw a few topics concerning multiPE but, by then, I had already taken on getting things to work in Amalux's newcommers LiveXP tutorial and Wim's makePE_3.
However, I've given multiPE a try recently, but many scrips which I had been using in my build of LiveXP was not yet supported for multiPE.
but again, I'd really like to thank you for the creation for winbuilder, for this is the core, I think, and without it, I wouldn't have known about this site, and the different thing that one can do with regard to making different projects, adding scripts, etc.
Cheers, and keep the development up!
#37
Posted 14 October 2011 - 10:52 AM
When running the PE, you do not need NVDA installed on the host. Everything is inside the PE.I have tried to run it from Vmware player. But may be, that i wrongly understood The phylosophy of Mynvda script. If i will extract .zip file with The whole project and if i will run Winbuilder.exe, i will not change scripts settings, if i will specifi The XP source folder and if i will press play button, project will include nvda to The resulted .iso or no? I have tried to run generated .iso from Vmwareplayer but i have got no sound.
You got no sound in VMWare, because the driver has not been added.
But there was also a bug with autostarting NVDA.
I have made a new project, you can download from my server (NOT the official reboot download!) http://nativeex.exec...iPE/multiPE.zip.
When you go to multiPE > CoreApps > Accessibility > myNVDA, and click the big button in the GUI, all settings are changed to build a PE with NVDA support and run it in VMWare.
Peter
#38
Posted 14 October 2011 - 03:45 PM
Dear syr, thank You very, very much. I will test NVDA with my sighted mother, if it is now being automatically started and if Insert+n is recalling NVDA screen reader menu. Unfortunately, i can not locate big button after choosing MyNVDA. There are predefined buttons, checked. I must activate this big button to apply necessary settings? There are three graphical buttons in The Winbuilder GUI not accessible by using TAB or arrow keys, The class name for those objects is u'TToolBar'When running the PE, you do not need NVDA installed on the host. Everything is inside the PE.
You got no sound in VMWare, because the driver has not been added.
But there was also a bug with autostarting NVDA.
I have made a new project, you can download from my server (NOT the official reboot download!) http://nativeex.exec...iPE/multiPE.zip.
When you go to multiPE > CoreApps > Accessibility > myNVDA, and click the big button in the GUI, all settings are changed to build a PE with NVDA support and run it in VMWare.
Peter
The first of those objects is The play button. But i can not identifi The button related to The Mynvda script. Can i simply run whole project by using play button to proceed it successfully? We are very near to The target. If NVDA eill be usable, i will try to add The USB headsets sound driver. I will type The name of .inf and .sys and other driver files when my USB headseds will be recognized by Windows XP SP3 operating system. I hope, that this driver is universal for all USB headsets manufacturers. Thank You very much for Yours systematic work on The project. I will test Windows 7 X86 installation source in The evening with my faster computer with USB2.0 support and with faster PCI and other components. The target to RAM choice in The Pefactory script is running without issues. Whole script is being executed without issues.
#39
Posted 14 October 2011 - 03:53 PM
Please wait until tomorrow for a new upload to my server. I have it already working well that NVDA comes up in Emulator, CD and USB. There are only some troubles when switching the configuration.
The button is on the myNVDA script GUI, so you have to navigate in the tree to this script and open it
Peter
#40
Posted 14 October 2011 - 05:05 PM
Peter
#41
Posted 14 October 2011 - 07:25 PM
#42
Posted 15 October 2011 - 05:39 PM
I would like to valuably please You for help with nativeEx_multiPE project. I AM helpless to build it when using Windows 7 as The installation source. I have chosen The Windows7 project type by using ammazing Editable combo.
But unfortunately, eventhough i have Imdisk virtual driver installed on my host Windows XP SP3 computer, i Am getting The following error message from The Winbuilder after pressing The play button.
Exec - Processing section: [UnMount] From file: [%BaseDir%ProjectsmultiPEImageIndex.script]
Exec - Processing section: [UnMount] From file: [%BaseDir%ProjectsmultiPEImageIndex.script]
with parameters: [ERROR]
AddVariables - Added section [ApiVar] from file [%BaseDir%ProjectsmultiPELibraryCommon_apiEx.script] into the local variable list
IF - [4] is not equal to: [1] evaluated string: [If,Not,%PEF_Type%,EQUAL,1,Begin]
Run - Processing section: [UnMountX] From file: [%BaseDir%ProjectsmultiPEImageIndex.script]
with parameters: [Install]
IF - [Mount] is not equal to: [Stor] evaluated string: [If,Not,%MountModus%,EQUAL,Stor,Begin]
IF - [%InstallMounted%] is not equal to: [True] evaluated string: [If,%#1Mounted%,EQUAL,True,Begin]
[Run,%WimManagerScript%,SetShow,1,OUT:%ShowCMD%]
[If,%ShowCMD%,EQUAL,Hide,System,CURSOR,WAIT]
[Echo,"UnMounting Windows #1.WIM files with %MountType%.exe..."]
[Run,%ImageIndexScript%,%MountType%_UnMount,#1]
[If,ExistDir,%#1SRC%,DirDelete,%#1SRC%]
[Set,%#1Mounted%,False,PERMANENT]
[System,CURSOR,NORMAL]
There are some other lines in The log, but i think, that previously mentioned lines can help You during debugging.
I Am using
nativeEx_multiPE
Downloaded from The following link:
http://nativeex.exec...eEx_multiPE.zip
I can not solve this issue. I have tried to run Multipe project with Nvda awailable, but this project locked selection for others projects build.
Do not be afraid, i do not want to overload You with complex programmers activities to make also WIndows Vista project and Windows7 compatible with NVDA. Or even with USB headsets.
I want to try Yours Windows7 build to determine, if Microsoft disk defragmenter is also included in The resulted build. Because XP based build created by Yours project is able to include Microsoft disk Defragmenter.
I would like to ofline defrag my NTFS volumes contained Windows7 by Microsoft defragmenter, because i think, that this algorithm is The best to perform to make my harddrive run faster. And after offline defragmentation by using Yours live Build, i will erase whole Prefetch folder, i will reboot and i will execute The following command from normal Windows7, no live.
rundll32 advapi32.dll ProcessIdleTasks
I think, that mixing other disk defragmenter when idletasks processes are able to run automatically Microsoft defragmentation routines is not good strategi.
How complex would be for You to add Microsoft defragmenter to The Windows7 based project, which is The part of http://nativeex.exec...Ex_multiPE.zip?
Thank You very much for Yours answers.
#43
Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:29 AM
The correct link is
http://nativeex.exec...iPE/multiPE.zip
You build a win7 PE just by defining the win7 source.
Peter
#44
Posted 16 October 2011 - 10:21 AM
#45
Posted 16 October 2011 - 11:18 AM
When you specify the source, the project queries the source type and adds necessary internal switching.
BTW: The Win7 track has not yet audio support. So NVDA will be mute. I'm currently adding audio support.
Peter
#46
Posted 29 October 2011 - 07:46 PM
#47
Posted 29 October 2011 - 07:54 PM
But I'll try by buying one and test (to buy one seems to be rather cheep, like buying some cigarettes or a bottle of wine ...).
The issue I have currently that in multiPE sound only is fully running in PE1 / XP. But I think, following yxour post, you'll use XP as install source.
BTW: The "MR Schlang" sounds strange for me.
I'm Peter
Peter
#48
Posted 29 October 2011 - 08:59 PM
#49
Posted 30 October 2011 - 11:50 AM
When headset does not work in a virtual machine, please try with burned ISO.
Peter
#50
Posted 30 October 2011 - 05:50 PM
firstly, i would like to thank You very much, that You have added The option for adding Portable NVDA inside The project. Very well done. But i will disappoint You. USB headsets are not working at all, but NVDA have been integrated successfully. NVDA menu have been displaied correctly. But this is my error. So i will help You with more precise technical details. To have USBheadsets working with Yours project, The following files must be added and must cooperate together.
ks.inf
layout.inf
USBAUDIO.sys
wdma_usb.inf
wdmaudio.inf
It will be very probably necessary to specifi all files, on which USB headsets are depend on. Here is The depend files list.
Because we are very probably not having chance to make USB headsets work without this dependent files list.
C:WINDOWSsystem32driversdrmk.sys
C:WINDOWSsystem32driversks.sys
C:WINDOWSsystem32driversks.sys
C:WINDOWSsystem32driversportcls.sys
C:WINDOWSsystem32driversstream.sys
C:WINDOWSsystem32driversUSBAUDIO.sys
C:WINDOWSsystem32ksproxy.ax
C:WINDOWSsystem32ksuser.dll
C:WINDOWSsystem32wdmaud.drv
Do You think, that this list of files would help You to create new version of Multipe? I will patiently debug it till USB headsets will not work.
Thank You very, very much for Yours programmers excellent work.
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