Sorry, you shouldn't have created such a useful app! You have only yourself to blame!
P.S. prefer the Start check option as the user may have changed the VM since he last ran VMS...?
Best Answer steve6375 , 26 February 2013 - 12:18 PM
Is the Win7 64-bit or special in any way? Did you try an plain MS Win7 32-bit ISO extracted to a USB drive?
How about creating a virtual HDD, mounting the HDD, copying the USB stick to the virtual HDD, dismounting it, then boot from it via VBox?
Go to the full postPosted 07 July 2013 - 02:54 PM
Sorry, you shouldn't have created such a useful app! You have only yourself to blame!
P.S. prefer the Start check option as the user may have changed the VM since he last ran VMS...?
Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:04 PM
P.S. prefer the Start check option as the user may have changed the VM since he last ran VMS...?
Could work but the problem is that I have to store somewhere the configuration of the last used VM. Only this way I can be really sure that it was changed or not. Because you can't count on the date of the file or the XML date; not even the checksum can't be used because maybe the user may just loaded the VM in VBM but without modifying the configuration - but VBM could still make some changes in the file..
LE: but if you want something just simple as you said it's doable:
How about if there is no VMS vmdk already in the VM (and you have requested a USB drive to be attached) then it warns you?
Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:58 PM
1.2 Beta 2 version
LE: link removed, you can find a better version in the next posts...
Changes:
Bugfix/Improvement: the code that checks again for vboxsvc.exe after killing was adapted to work on slower computers as well.
Improvement: if the VM doesn't have yet the VMSDrive***.vmdk attached and it finds other HDD's in the first positions in the storage controller(s) it warns the user it won't be able to boot from the first drive.
Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:24 AM
A small niggle - if the form does not have focus, then the selected VMS entry is not highlighted. This means I have to click on the form to select it first just to see what VMS is selected, and then click Start if the right one was already selected.
If I could see what VMS was selected when the form did not have focus, I could just click on Start straight away...
Also, personally, I would love a small column for the VT-x setting of each VM, this is because I usually have two VBox VMs, one with VT-x off and an identical one with VT-x on. This is because on my system, the stage 1 text mode install of XP crashes the VM if VT-x is enabled, but it runs OK (though slower) if VT-x is off. For stage 2 GUI-Mode and XP once installed, I run the VT-x ON VM as it is faster. I suppose this case is unique to me though...
Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:27 AM
Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:13 PM
A small niggle - if the form does not have focus, then the selected VMS entry is not highlighted. This means I have to click on the form to select it first just to see what VMS is selected, and then click Start if the right one was already selected.If I could see what VMS was selected when the form did not have focus, I could just click on Start straight away...
Yes, it does that but the problem comes partially from the window behavior in Windows and from the Win7 theme. When the window (of any application) loses focus the selection is painted with a less visible color. Unfortunately, on the default Win7 theme, it's almost the same with the color of the even numbered rows.
I can try to disable the default window behavior but it's not so easy and it's not recommended.
Or I can try to change the color of the even numbered rows so they look different from the selected row but still help the user; but if I increase the brightness they will not be distinguished from the background, if I decrease it it will start to annoy the user.
I will try to find a solution...
Also, personally, I would love a small column for the VT-x setting of each VM, this is because I usually have two VBox VMs, one with VT-x off and an identical one with VT-x on. This is because on my system, the stage 1 text mode install of XP crashes the VM if VT-x is enabled, but it runs OK (though slower) if VT-x is off. For stage 2 GUI-Mode and XP once installed, I run the VT-x ON VM as it is faster. I suppose this case is unique to me though...
A problem: this parameter does not have anything to do with adding/removing the real drives from a VM.
If in the future I will decide to show and even change other VM's parameters I will definitely have to change the interface.
I understand that it will help you a little but an easy solution is to create an entry for each of those 2 VMs in VMS and giving them suggestive names ("... VT-x off", "... VT-x on").
Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:27 PM
I will try to find a solution...
A problem: this parameter does not have anything to do with adding/removing the real drives from a VM.
If in the future I will decide to show and even change other VM's parameters I will definitely have to change the interface.
I understand that it will help you a little but an easy solution is to create an entry for each of those 2 VMs in VMS and giving them suggestive names ("... VT-x off", "... VT-x on").
Thanks!
and
That's what I do already - no problem..it's just my usage is weird!
Posted 08 July 2013 - 02:19 PM
Posted 08 July 2013 - 05:28 PM
1.2 Beta 3 version
LE: link removed, you can find better version in the next posts..
Changes:
Improvement: "VM type" column replaced with icons.
Improvement: when the main window loses focus it will not change the background of even numbered entries.
Improvement: the background of the even numbered entries will be changed only if the number of entries is >= 5.
Posted 09 July 2013 - 07:29 AM
1.2 Beta 4 version
Virtual machine starter GUI exe.zip 476.31KB
496 downloads
Changes:
Improvement: better icon for VB VMs.
Improvement: with Up/Down arrows you can cycle from the beginning of the list if you reached the end or from the end if you reached the beginning.
Bugfix: sometimes the icon of the VM was not showed.
Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:22 PM
If in a day or two nobody finds a bug or request an improvement, the next version will be the final version
Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:09 PM
If in a day or two nobody finds a bug or request an improvement, the next version will be the final version
Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:18 PM
Don't worry, I'm not bored and not in a rush but the thing is most of the users are usually waiting for the final version, because they consider the Beta versions unsafe. Partly they're right...
Ok, I will wait...
Oh, btw, have you solved the "dismount" problem...?
Posted 11 July 2013 - 01:56 AM
Posted 11 July 2013 - 02:36 AM
Of course I will keep perfecting it. But from time to time I think that's wise to release final versions instead of a "forever Beta"...
A few days ago I tried VMS in Windows XP x64 SP2. It worked flawlessly.
In the error message about dismounting, VMS is also showing other informations, like "Possible reason:..." or "System message:...". What does it show on your computer?
Yes, "VMS" is not the best name but not the worst either. Somewhere in between...
Posted 11 July 2013 - 02:49 AM
Posted 11 July 2013 - 02:00 PM
Steve, do you like surprises...?
Posted 11 July 2013 - 02:38 PM
urm... sometimes....
depends if it is a nice one or a nasty one!
Posted 11 July 2013 - 02:53 PM
1.2 Beta 5 version
LE: link removed, you can find a better version in the next posts...
Changes:
Improvement: just one but it's important. I will let you find what it is...
Posted 11 July 2013 - 02:59 PM
whoot , were.. a surprice ?? oh, i have hungry *bg* a chicken or an Turkey ?.. i have biiig hungry *bg*
or maybe a big familiypizzaaa ????
common, get the surprice.. *lol*
edit :
uhm to late..
was only a programm, nothing to eat ! humm..
*very big grin*
edit 2:
thanks *bg*
best regards
Blacky
Edited by Blackcrack, 11 July 2013 - 03:05 PM.
Posted 11 July 2013 - 03:43 PM
- great! Now I can leave VB Manager open all the time!
Thanks !!!! That is much much better!
Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but does the VMS form have to disappear so soon after clicking 'Start' and ostensibly 'nothing happens' for about 10-15 seconds...
Could you not show some progress report on the form (or maybe a pop-up window) so we know what is happening. It would also be useful for problem reporting too, but the main thing is to provide some feedback to the user of what is going on before the VM actually runs. It would also help the user understand just what VMS does
e.g. progress reporting like...
checking VBox VM exists..OK
Adding USB drive 1 (WD Passprot 1.8TB) to VM xxx.. OK
Adding USB drive 2 (USB 2GB) to VM xxxx.. OK
Checking if Vbox service is running.. OK
dismounting USB drive xxx..OK
dismounting USB drive yyy..OK
running VM xxx...OK
It would give the user more confidence when running the app for the first time.
P.S. Have a think about the name too. 'Virtual Machine Starter for USB drives' or something like that??
Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:09 PM
now we need drivers for booting in usb for WinXP for automatical using the usb as normal storage ... Win7 should work in a usb easy
but i did not testing it now.. have here only 3x4Gig & 3x8gig Gig Sticks therewith i mus use XP.. Win7 is too big..
but i don't have usb-stiorage drivers or how does it the PE Win XP ? With an USB-Storage too ?
it should prepare for booting over usb like an pe-System .. .. with usb-storage drivers ? how works it ?
best regards
Blacky
Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:26 PM
edit 2:
thanks *bg*
best regards
Blacky
You're welcome.
- great! Now I can leave VB Manager open all the time!
Thanks !!!! That is much much better!
Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but does the VMS form have to disappear so soon after clicking 'Start' and ostensibly 'nothing happens' for about 10-15 seconds...
Could you not show some progress report on the form (or maybe a pop-up window) so we know what is happening. It would also be useful for problem reporting too, but the main thing is to provide some feedback to the user of what is going on before the VM actually runs. It would also help the user understand just what VMS does
e.g. progress reporting like...
checking VBox VM exists..OK
Adding USB drive 1 (WD Passprot 1.8TB) to VM xxx.. OK
Adding USB drive 2 (USB 2GB) to VM xxxx.. OK
Checking if Vbox service is running.. OK
dismounting USB drive xxx..OK
dismounting USB drive yyy..OK
running VM xxx...OK
It would give the user more confidence when running the app for the first time.
P.S. Have a think about the name too. 'Virtual Machine Starter for USB drives' or something like that??
You're welcome.
On my computer the VM is loading in about 3..4 sec
Most of this time is VB loading the VM, so logging during this stage won't help much since I can't show how VB is loading its internal components...
But I will think about that.
Too long name... Maybe "VM starter for USB drives"... Although is not only for USB drives...
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