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#65114 VirtualBox

Posted by pscEx on 18 April 2009 - 08:18 AM in Websites

What do you mean by 'historic' files.

Simply all files, configurations etc. used before the upgrade. :)

Peter



#65133 Quote, Comma, Space

Posted by pscEx on 18 April 2009 - 11:34 AM in Tutorials

With WB 077 beta allanf found a new issue.

The code
Set,"%List%","a,b,c"

   Run,"%ScriptFile%",Test,%list%

   

   [Test]

   Echo,"#1"

   Echo,"#2"

   Echo,"#3"
formerly resulted in:

Processing section: [Test] From file: [%BaseDir%\Projects\nativeEx_barebone\CodeBox.txt]

Posted Image a
Posted Image b
Posted Image c

With 077 beta 1 you get:

Run - Processing section: [Test] From file: [%BaseDir%\Projects\nativeEx_barebone\CodeBox.txt]
Posted Image with parameters: [a,b,c]
Posted Image a,b,c
Posted Image
Posted Image

Simple fact: A bug is fixed. It cannot be allowed that a comma in a 'Run' parameter splits the parameter.
Otherwise it would be impossible to pass a parameter string containing a comma.

Sorry, allanf:
Here it is not possible to preserve a 'back compatibility'.
A script which (assuming and believing that everything is ok, I beg your pardon) uses the 'features of a bug' must be revised after the bug has been fixed.


Peter



#65134 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 18 April 2009 - 11:44 AM in LiveXP

Hi Lancelot! Welcome back!

What do you think about to 'ask in the newbie question format':
Use a minimized build and post the two logs!

Peter :)



#65150 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 18 April 2009 - 01:57 PM in LiveXP

Hallo my friend Lancelot!

Please excuse me that I did not try to research fundamentals (I'm currently rather engaged in W"B internet features) and remain on the 'log level'.

Currently I do not see anything really 'wrong' in the logs.

Because :) seems not to be actual, let's see.

Can you explain your 'causing trouble'?

What happens (or does not happen)?

Peter



#65168 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 18 April 2009 - 03:26 PM in LiveXP

You know that I'm a 'WIM-Novice'
And I have the feeling that here I cannot help. :)
I do not find any reason (from the log) that in the PE the B: drive is not 'as usual'.

Let's hope the 'WIM-Master' will see this soon and has the technical ability to help.

Peter



#65172 GRUB4DOS - Wikipedia Page - Help me edit it

Posted by pscEx on 18 April 2009 - 03:41 PM in Requests

Well I've got a job now, so I'll be making much slower progress with my TODO list from now on!

Congratulations to your new job.

But if you now stop to follow your ToDo list, maybe you'll never become a good programmer :)

Peter :)



#65187 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 18 April 2009 - 05:50 PM in LiveXP

Currently I cannot, because I do not have a running LiveXP project on my PC. But tomorrow I'll try.

Peter



#65227 Quote, Comma, Space

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 08:06 AM in Tutorials

We understand your desire to break all projects other than those based on your nativex. You certainly trashed VistaPE.

BTW. Your logic is flawed. It is not and never was a bug.

If you wish to shape winbuilder to your own projects, please post the script that you have, in this particular case, designed winbuilder to run.

Regards :)

Allanf, please be objective.

You know that syntax is not project depending.

And in VistaPE (complete download) there are 250 'Run' command lines.
None of them uses the 'combine parameters' method.

Peter



#65229 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 09:03 AM in LiveXP

Next beta it is an Download Center option to rename the current file rather than to overwrite.

Peter



#65235 Ping for a File

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 09:45 AM in Development

For some reason psc prefers to conduct the development of winbuilder in secret via PM. Not sure why. In the proper spirit of openness, here is the response that answers my question.

It is correct that the latest version is available on the nativeEx server.
It gives developers the possibility to test single functions.
And this way the 'nightly beta preview' confusion of 075 beta has been avoided.

But it is not correct that it is a secret. I published here

I only sometimes explain to those people by PM who did not understand.

Peter



#65238 pe21

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 10:19 AM in Project forge

@psc

I guess that you could never really understand it. So now you have the opportunity, you decided to break it. What a joke!

... :) ...

Regards


This 'logic' has been the reason that since WB 075 beta I introduced the parameter stack.

The whole 'parameter index' issue is forgotten now.

Peter



#65240 Quote, Comma, Space

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 10:27 AM in Tutorials

Ever tried running a project other than your own?

Yes

Peter



#65263 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 02:13 PM in LiveXP

wb077b1 --> can not finish bootsdi
wb076 --> no problem

The line

ShellExecute,Hide,"cmd.exe","/c #$q#$q%VdkExe%#$q open * #$q%RAMFolder%\i386\%BootSDIname%#$q /rw /p:0 >> #$q%VdkLog%#$q#$q"

in the failure situation causes a 'STOP'.
I heve no oipnion about reason, maybe the user by mistake dis sth.

Can you test again?

why warning with

wait,2
?

No opinion, and with my current version this does not appear.

If you are playing with some trash, just forget it for the moment.

Peter



#65264 Quote, Comma, Space

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 02:26 PM in Tutorials

I hope on future versions of wb using
Set,"%value1%","1234,5 6,7 8"
remains the same as before, because it is much easier to understand/read than
Set,"%value2%",1234#$c5#$s6#$c7#$s8

In general that should work as before.
But it may happen in certain situations (I do not know one yet) that it will not work. Then unfortunattelly the script developer has to use the 'correct' method.

Topic is about "Qutoe, Comma, Space" but i have a question for "percentage"
is there any rule/comment for using variable in variable (i had some issues that i can not remember now, following lines works):

Set,%test%,peter

 Set,%petervariable%,peter#$sin#$sbootland

 Echo,%%test%variable%

There are no special rules. Variables inside a variable (I call them 'nested variables') should work in all cases.
Nested variables are thought to run in the way you show. They are tested and got the 'certification'.
%test% is replaced by peter > %%test%variable% >> %petervariable%
And therefore the echo is :peter#$sin#$sbootland > peter in bootland

However, as usual in a product under development, maybe there are constellations where this dos not work. That would be a reason to visit the bug tracker.

Peter



#65266 Spaces in pathnames in NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 02:36 PM in NaughtyPE

I have a problem which i don't understand.
Whne Hive builds NaughtyPE with an english source, he get's of course a program files folder instead of a Programme folder like me, with german source.
Problem is, while shortcuts still work, i can't find a way to start a program from batch or command prompt, when a space is in the path. :)

Tested the following:
- start %systemdrive%\programme\wbload\wbload.exe - works
- start %systemdrive%\program files\wbload\wbload.exe - does not work
- start "%systemdrive%\program files\wbload\wbload.exe" - does not work
- start %systemdrive%\"program files"\wbload\wbload.exe - does not work
- start %systemdrive%"\program files\wbload\wbload.exe" - does not work
- start %programfiles%\wbload\wbload.exe - does not work
- start "%programfiles%\wbload\wbload.exe" - does not work

The solutions with the "" should have all worked, but do not.
Any idea for the right syntax?

:)

Hi Medevil!

Nice that you have the same troubles which cost me several days to solve.

Now only some seconds to tell you:

The 'start' command takes the first argument which is in quotes as title for the window.

Therefore you MUST define a dummy or empty title if you want to use a path with quotes.

Start "" "<your app with spaces in the path>"
or
START "Medevil's best application " "<your app with spaces in the path>"

Peter



#65268 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 02:42 PM in LiveXP

OKI.

Please give me a day to try to reproduce on my system.

Peter



#65276 Spaces in pathnames in NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 05:15 PM in NaughtyPE

Peter psc :)

yep, this was one of the lesson i learned highly probably from you a while ago (couldnt find the topic in bootland :) )

copy /y &#34;.\test.exe&#34; %temp%

 

 Echo test 1 - normal syntax

 start /wait %temp%\test.exe

 

 Echo test 2 - quote syntax right

 start &#34;&#34; &#34;%temp%\test.exe&#34;

 

 Echo test 3 - quote syntax wrong

 start &#34;%temp%\test.exe&#34;

:)

(Quoted text intentionally) Thanks, Lancelot!

I really need such applause today. I'm currently in a bad feeling because a WB change I made in best opinion, seems to be an 'enforcing of nativeEx and excluding all other projects'.

Your post tells a bit, that I'm usually trying to help, not to promote 'my project' (which in fact is 'unusable' for emergency etc., just to demonstarte latest WB features).

Peter



#65279 Spaces in pathnames in NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 19 April 2009 - 05:24 PM in NaughtyPE

Undoubtedly :)

On the other hand, it shows the similarities between our friend psc and "Billy the Door" :) :
http://www.ss64.com/nt/start.html



:)

:)

jaclaz

:) :(
Peter



#65325 pe21

Posted by pscEx on 20 April 2009 - 09:03 AM in Project forge

I adapted it for 076 and it's working fine. Now, for no reason whatsoever, you decided to break it. What's the story?

When you adapted for 076, everything is ok.

As I wrote, the parameter stack has been introduced in 075 beta.

And that has been BEFORE 076

Peter



#65343 Project management rant

Posted by pscEx on 20 April 2009 - 12:12 PM in Development

As an alternity, you can have a look at genUpdates. That is what I use.

Peter



#65357 Project management rant

Posted by pscEx on 20 April 2009 - 02:10 PM in Development

I still need to have a local virgin project, just for uploads. But i want to be able to upload directly from my work project.

That is the best way to have random 'factory options settings' on the server!

Peter :)



#65365 Quote, Comma, Space

Posted by pscEx on 20 April 2009 - 03:29 PM in Tutorials

Seems like a sensible change to me. However as it does introduce compatibility problems maybe you should make it optional at the script level i.e. require a new option in the [main] section of a script to enable the new syntax.

Would not like winbuilder to be like MS products which never seem to care about compatibility with earlier versions of the product.


Next beta this is possible:

&#91;process&#93;

Set,%List%,&#34;a,b,c&#34;

Run,%ScriptFile%,Test,%List%

System,SPLITPARAMETERS,ON

Run,%ScriptFile%,Test,%List%

System,SPLITPARAMETERS,OFF



&#91;Test&#93;

Echo,#1

Echo,#2

Echo,#3

With result:
Posted Image Processing section: [process]
Posted Image File [%BaseDir%\Projects\win7_pe\CodeBox.txt] Version [1]

Posted Image SetVar - Sucessfuly changed the value of [%List%] to: [a#$cb#$cc]
Run - Processing section: [Test] From file: [%BaseDir%\Projects\win7_pe\CodeBox.txt]
Posted Image with parameters: [a,b,c]
Posted Image a,b,c
Posted Image
Posted Image
Run - Processed section [Test] in file: [%BaseDir%\Projects\win7_pe\CodeBox.txt]
Posted Image System,SplitParameters,ON
Run - Processing section: [Test] From file: [%BaseDir%\Projects\win7_pe\CodeBox.txt]
Posted Image with parameters: [a],[b],[c]
Posted Image a
Posted Image b
Posted Image c
Run - Processed section [Test] in file: [%BaseDir%\Projects\win7_pe\CodeBox.txt]
Posted Image System,SplitParameters,OFF

The System,SPLITPARAMETERS,ON command can be given once in the project, e.g. in [Process] of script.project, and is then valid for the complete project (or until it is switched off by System,SPLITPARAMETERS,OFF, and then switched on again, and ....)

Peter

BTW: This again is one of the commands, I only invented for MY nativeEx project. :)
In spite it is currently not needed there, I'm going to find sth where to use it.
Suggestions welcome!




#65370 Win7PE with Winbuilder 74 & 76

Posted by pscEx on 20 April 2009 - 04:53 PM in Win7PE

@YahooUK:

As one test before delivering the new 077 beta 2, I built your project.

Result: This has been my first Vista-World project which created a running PE with 'factory settings'. I just had to define source DVD and WAIK install path.
In the past with other projects I have had usually troubles. Maybe you remember my post 'Vista for Dummies'
:)

But please be not too proud! there are some smaller complains.

Biggest one is that you use a very old VirtualBox script. It only works with versions before 1.6.0.

Attached a script which also works with current versions up to 2.2.0 (Please do not use 2.2.0, use 2.1.?; I wrote a warning anywhere in the forum)

Some smaller:
  • Comment lines should have two hash chars rather than one. Since a while we are trying to define comment as // or ##.
  • The System,RefreshVars command is obsolete and does not do anything. You should remove it.
  • Some Echo commands with spaces in the message should include the message in quotes.
Continue your good way!

Peter

Attached File  VirtualBox.script   35.56KB   20 downloads



#65375 Quote, Comma, Space

Posted by pscEx on 20 April 2009 - 05:43 PM in Tutorials

Add it as argument to the 'Run'

The Set command can assign ONLY ONE value, not two like you try!

Peter



#65377 Win7PE with Winbuilder 74 & 76

Posted by pscEx on 20 April 2009 - 05:50 PM in Win7PE

That happens if in updates.ini instead of an integer value for version or length there is an empty value.

Next beta will be more fault lolerant in this case and just assume the empty value to be null.

Peter



#65379 Quote, Comma, Space

Posted by pscEx on 20 April 2009 - 06:01 PM in Tutorials

The SPLITPARAMETER is only made to hold compatibility for those scripts, who used a "bug's feature" for their functionality.

For all others is:

ONE parameter is ONE parameter, regardles whether it contains spaces, commas etc. or not.

Peter



#65423 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 06:38 AM in NaughtyPE

Because of some complaints i did get and some own tests.
I have to stress: NaughtyPE build with WB076 manages to reach the desktop. This however does not imply in any way that things will work!!!

How far things do work, depends on your language or more precisely, if and how many folders have a space in their names.

If you want a usable NaughtyPE, only WB072 and WB074 will do!!!


:)


Can you explain some of the "things" which do not work?

Peter

EDIT: Add screen shoot of a build with 076
naughty.gif



#65435 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 09:27 AM in NaughtyPE

All Strings containg spaces get malformed.
This means links, registry...

Please tell me at least one script with link failure and one script with wrong registry key.
I need to reproduce the issue.

btw. Sound is not working in your NaughtyPE.

Unfortunatewlly I do not have sound. Therefore I cannot reproduce.
Tell me the script and I'll try to compare.

Peter



#65436 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 09:47 AM in NaughtyPE

Please tell me at least one script with link failure and one script with wrong registry key.
I need to reproduce the issue.

Unfortunatewlly I do not have sound. Therefore I cannot reproduce.
Tell me the script and I'll try to compare.

Peter

MedEvil,

Maybe I have an unactual version of NaughtyPE (downloaded 2009_APR_19 12:49).
But the build with 074 (XP SP3 English) results in this boot:
naughty2.gif
When you do not have any troubles with 074, what's different on my system? :)
To prevent unnecessary questions: YES, i cleaned the complete Cache\Prebuild before.

Peter :)



#65437 App Scripts of Lancelot

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 10:16 AM in App Scripts

A good idea!

Maybe that can help to 'unify' scripts.

Perhaps you should have a look to the old 'shared server' idea Download Management, Beta Release.

Because there has not been much interest, I sent the idea to background.

But maybe with your new initiation, it can be reanimated, debugged, featured, etc. and become a usable tool.



#65439 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 10:27 AM in LiveXP

@fxscrpt, @Lancelot! :)

Can one of you give a short explanation:
  • What happened between post #1314 and now?
  • Is it concerning a dummie user like me?
Peter :)



#65443 Portable Apps w/ Paraglider's Runscanner ?

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 11:04 AM in Support

No idea what you're talking about, there is no site called pepa.com. :)

:)


pe2.winbuilder.net/pePA.com is a project by allanf.

It currently only contains some lines to honour (or aggress?) me:
&#91;main&#93;

Title=pePA.com.006.config

Author=allanf

Version=006

Date=20.04.2009

Contact=psc, not me &#58;&#41;

Selected=True

Download_Level=0

Level=1

Credits=psc, www.boot-land.net Community
That is the result of the fact that the author of this project was not willing to accept some (agreed: major) bug fixes in WinBuilder and tries to tell his emotions in this way to the outer world, rather than to discuss.

Compare NaughtyPE: We are still fighting against some unwanted reality, and I understand your angryness ...

But as you tell your troubles, we'll surelly find a solution ...

Peter :)



#65444 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 11:10 AM in NaughtyPE

Since there is no dot3api.dll in my builds and i never got complaints about it missing, i guess the problem is not Wb074 but that you use as source XPSP3 while i still use XPSP2.

I'll try with SP2

The curious thing is, why didn't you get that message when you've build with WB076?

That one I did with German SP 2. :)

So we have to do a couple of 'serial investigations'.
I do not want to spend weeks on it. Therefore I would like to use a minimized project.

Can you post a project where all 'uncritical' and 'unneeded' scripts are unselected?

Just let remain only the scripts which in your experience create troubles.

Peter

BTW: I suggest that in the mean time you adapt the project (for 074) to SP3



#65447 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 11:54 AM in NaughtyPE

As already said FishRadio has malformed links.

I'll give it a trial.

Having no sound, is a very valid reason for NaughtyPE not having it too. :)

I suggest to continue with removing themes
Peter :)



#65454 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 01:03 PM in NaughtyPE

Does this mean,

If you want a usable NaughtyPE, only WB072 and WB074 will do!!!


should be read as

If you want a usable NaughtyPE, only WB072 and WB074 with German XP SP2 source CD will do!!!

?

Peter :)



#65457 Back Compatibility

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 01:16 PM in Development

Just a crazy idea:

I'm thinking about a command like
System,COMPATIBILITY,{74|76}
.

Question: Necesssary?
If yes:
  • Theoretically
  • Practically
    If Practically:
  • Which statements are for discussion?
  • SAmple: 'Blah Blah' in 074 becomes 'Bla Bla', in 076 becomes 'blo blo'
  • Which statements in my script do not work anymore, and
  • How many weeks I have to spend to correct
  • I cannot correct it
[/list]Please consider, that a back comptatibility to 074 may also introduce the old processing speed which has been about double time.

Peter



#65461 Back Compatibility

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 02:04 PM in Development

This is somehow connected with the "strict" vs. "tolerant" approach that was discussed some time ago and with syntax highlighting.
For the "willing" .script developer updating his .script to a newly introduced syntax should not be a big problem, as well as correcting the previously "wrong" syntax used.
But in reality a large numbers of .scripts, even very good/useful ones are not "properly" and constantly mantained by the original Author or by some volunteer.

Thanks, Jaclaz for your comments.
As sometimes said: "Who works, makes mistakes, and who works a lot, makes many mistakes, and ..."

I think I have no reason to hire, that I had to adapt several of 'my own work' :) ) nativeEx core functions to the new more strict rules, even inside progs like HoJoPE.

Peter



#65463 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 02:08 PM in NaughtyPE

Nope shouldn't be read like that. Should work with all XPSP2, but W2k3Sp1 might make problems as i never tested it. But there too: all languages - same problems. I do not discriminate! :)

:)

So don't give up. :)
I just decided, for my own fun (and besides that for testing 077 beta 2 before publishing) , to create a project "NaughtyClone", which first gets all updated nativeEx core functions and internal apps like PENetwork.

I'm sure that after that the remaining issues are enumerable.

Peter :)



#65472 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 02:40 PM in NaughtyPE

NaughtyPE doesn't like it to be run from a folder path with spaces in it, like a lot of other projects.

This space behaviour is one of my 'most hated' ones. And I'm sure that inside WinBuilder I did EVERYTHING(?) to allow this. :)

BTW: For this reason, the WB development team decided to have the development path as "???\WB Debug"

Peter



#65479 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 03:21 PM in LiveXP

Maybe you can confirm that new script works for nativeEx.

The new version brings in nativeEx (FBWF build and all options checked) a bootable and (as far as I decided in some minutes) working PE.

Peter :)



#65482 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 03:27 PM in NaughtyPE

THOUGH! No error messages in the log!

And here we are exactly at the point which seems not to be welcome at the back side (from our view) of the earth.

WinBuilder 077 beta 1 and later tells you something about your mistakes and does not process such lines.

Peter.

BTW: Let's close the discussion here and now. I'm going to test my 'NaughtyPEClone' idea. And here, I think, is currently everything said.

Thanks, Medevil for all the explanations.

Peter



#65484 Back Compatibility

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 03:35 PM in Development

Instead of this 'great idea of the day' aproach to development.

First counter for 'Unnecessary'! :)

Peter



#65492 A semy-random idea

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 04:19 PM in Development

While on my errrands on the net, I found this one:
http://www.codeproje...ialFolders.aspx

Here is the output of the app on XP (Italian):

SF#  Special Folder Name      Path---- ------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------000) Desktop                  C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Desktop001) Internet                         ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.002) Programs                 C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Menu Avvio\Programmi003) Controls                         ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.004) Printers                         ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.005) Personal                 C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Documenti006) Favorites                C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Preferiti007) Startup                  C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Menu Avvio\Programmi\Esecuzione automatica008) Recent                   C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Recent009) SendTo                   C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\SendTo010) BitBucket                        ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.011) StartMenu                C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Menu Avvio012) MyDocuments                      ==> Physical Folder, not created.013) MyMusic                  C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Documenti\Musica014) MyVideo                          ==> Physical Folder, not created.016) DesktopDirectory         C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Desktop017) Drives                           ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.018) Network                          ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.019) Nethood                  C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Risorse di rete020) Fonts                    C:\WINDOWS\Fonts021) Templates                C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Modelli022) CommonStartMenu          C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Menu Avvio023) CommonPrograms           C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Menu Avvio\Programmi024) CommonStartup            C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Menu Avvio\Programmi\Esecuzione automatica025) CommonDesktopDirectory   C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop026) AppData                  C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Dati applicazioni027) Printhood                C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Risorse di stampa028) LocalAppdata             C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni029) AltStartup                       ==> Physical Folder, not created.030) CommonAltStartup                 ==> Physical Folder, not created.031) CommonFavorites          C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Preferiti032) InternetCache            C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Impostazioni locali\Temporary Internet Files033) Cookies                  C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Cookies034) History                  C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Impostazioni locali\Cronologia035) CommonAppData            C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Dati applicazioni036) Windows                  C:\WINDOWS037) System                   C:\WINDOWS\system32038) ProgramFiles             C:\Programmi039) MyPictures               C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Documenti\Immagini040) Profile                  C:\Documents and Settings\Utente041) SystemX86                C:\WINDOWS\system32042) ProgramFilesX86                  ==> Physical Folder, not created.043) CommonProgramFiles       C:\Programmi\File comuni044) CommonProgramFilesX86            ==> Physical Folder, not created.045) CommonTemplates          C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Modelli046) CommonDocuments          C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documenti047) CommonAdminTools         C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Menu Avvio\Programmi\Strumenti di amministrazione048) AdminTools                       ==> Physical Folder, not created.049) Connections                      ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.053) CommonMusic              C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documenti\Musica054) CommonPictures           C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documenti\Immagini055) CommonVideo              C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documenti\Video056) Resources                C:\WINDOWS\resources057) ResourcesLocalized               ==> Physical Folder, not created.058) CommonOEMLinks                   ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.059) CDBurnArea               C:\Documents and Settings\Utente\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Masterizzazione CD061) ComputersNearMe                  ==> Virtual Folder, does not exist.062) Profiles                         ==> Physical Folder, not created.
Possibly not "perfect", but maybe it could be an idea to avoid at least part of the multilingual problems I seem to understand can happen.As always for my semi-random ideas, simply disregard it if unneeded/unuseful.jaclaz

The point here is, that you query the language dependent folder names on your local PC.When you create a PE, you have to use the language dependent folder names on the target PE (depending on your source CD they may be different from that ones on your local PC).

In nativeEx based projects this is done by reading, extracting, etc. the files on the source CD which in a real installation define these folder names.

For non-nativeEx projects (sorry allanf) I have no opinion.

Peter



#65494 Back Compatibility

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 04:59 PM in Development

As a side note, i believe that most developers would have far less problems, if it would be announced, we're now doing a major rework of WB and once it is finished, things will work like this and that and will not be changed again!!!

This would give the developers the chance to rework their projects without the need for already having to have a new WB version. Sure no project/script will probably work at first run. But within a day things should be up and running fine.

Besides a rather small price to pay, to remove the damocles sword of another good or even great idea! :)


:)

:( :) :) :( :( :)

That is what I tried in W075 / 076 betas with the 'nightlies'

But that has been a total disaster.

Instead of using the latest info for tests and preparing the next project release to come simultaniously with the next WB release, there has been a wunderful chaotic situation.

We got a basar with offering the best nightly A for script B :)

And so I decided, in the next beta phase not to do it any more.

To give the possibility for serious developers to test the latest actual stage of my personal SVN, w/o any guarantee etc. I created a 'Thrash' (@allanf, that is my conspirative depot) which is currently used by some developers which in this way do what you suggested above.

Peter

BTW:

and will not be changed again!!!


Following your car's wheel and engine sample you used anywhere else:

Company A promises never to build engines to use something else than diesel.
Now OPEC decides (stupid assumption) to make it impossible to produce diesel.

Should company A silently die or should it try to create a different engine?



#65496 A semy-random idea

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 05:12 PM in Development

But I would say that 99% of people have a licence for the SAME source (and language) they are building on.

Consequently it's not a "perfect" solution, but could be an option covering a large part of the intended audience.

And it could be an option for the projects, which currently do not or cannot respect the actual language. :)

Peter



#65502 Back Compatibility

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 06:29 PM in Development

I don't know what effect you exactly hoped for, but this is not what i meant.
You should have have a list of commands that are eighter new or changed right from the start and handed out instead of the nightlies a site which gives the future commands and their syntax nothing more.
Then when you think everything is ready for release. Start Beat testing. If you like with nightlies.

Did you download one of the nightlies?
If yes, did you read the release notes included in the nightlies?
They contained everything what you are now asking for.

If you did not read them, what's the issue for this discussion?

Peter



#65514 Back Compatibility

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 09:15 PM in Development

Thanks, Jaclaz!

Let me add some sentences from my personal point of view.

BTW: Just try to remember the changes I introduced in 074 to 076, cut the average build time to 50%.
These changes have been my personal intention w/o any specification / discussion etc. in the forum before.
If anybody is unhappy with this modifications, please post here!

I more and more get the feeling that I'm seen as employee of the forum.
More specified: I'm always open to discuss suggestions, and as known I usually brought solutions to sencefull discussions.
But I'm not willing to follow requirements to an employee.

When I joined the forum, there has been something like 'fun'.
And everything I did until now, is not only 'fun', but also my feeling that the result is an real improvement of WinBuilder.

OKI, I accept, that the forum's members may be possessed by commercial or whatever backgrounds, and cannot live without solutions which follow their requirements.

If I'm an employee, and have to do what is wanted, who pays my sallary?

Back to Jaclaz's post:

We should try to find 'rules' for development which make all parties happy.
Please give suggestions.

Peter



#65517 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 09:34 PM in NaughtyPE

Verify.script is NEVER thought to be an 'app script' valid for ALL projects.

Project dependent, you MUST add / remove [Verify] lines, and you also should define how to react on warnings / errors.

BTW: the 'obsolete' issue:

If Verify finds two scripts with the same title, it moves the lower version to "Temp".
If the two scripts have the same version, Verify decides, which one (may result in having a script in the "wrong" directory)

Obsolete: \Drivers\zz-usb-keyboard-mouse-hotplug.script (Renamed and moved)

In the second build the older version is not present (because moved previously), therefore no reaction.

Please have a look into the Verify GUI to control this behaviour. In the bottom there are some check boxes options, how to deal with double scripts.

Peter



#65518 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 09:38 PM in LiveXP

Bad news if WB077b1 files are significantly different.

Sth where I can do sth?

Peter



#65522 Back Compatibility

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 09:57 PM in Development

Peter i did not meant to critize you in a negative manner.

You put a lot of time and work in WB and that in itself deserves a lot of gratitute.

I for one worked my whole life in the IT business, even before it was that called. :)
And there are certain ways, how things are done and those ways, do not exist because someone thought they're a good idea,
but because they have proven to work. Time and time again.


Yep, remember those good old times, when coming here was pure fun. The sky seemed to be the limit.
Any idea what went wrong?


:)

MedEvil,

Inspite we sometimes have some hard discussions, no problem with you.

I think that my main issue is this forum is

I more and more get the feeling that I'm seen as employee of the forum.

We all should concentrate on developing (as community!) new and successful solutions rather than
"I'm member of this (freeware) forum. And I demand that ..."

(maybe that I'm currently a bit over-sensitive because of some split-parameters issues)

Peter



#65525 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 10:06 PM in NaughtyPE

I know what the problem with shortcut icons is.
After you first click on them, they look fine and work ok, don't they?

:)


I'm currently a bit confused about these 'icons' because I do not understand where here the issue is coming from.

But to show them just in the first view, in nativeEx based projects can be forced by unchecking "Do not refresh shortcuts on ISO boot" in the buildmodel.Script GUI.

Peter



#65527 Win7PE with Winbuilder 74 & 76

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 10:10 PM in Win7PE

Hi,

It builds without errors (wb 077b1), but after booting there is no penetcfg. Manually runing of it displays error that there is no netcfg ora factory.exe fount...

Maybe someone can customize Holger's penetwork for vistape?

Regards, voyteckst

Can you please post the (zipped) log?

Peter



#65529 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 10:13 PM in LiveXP

i will test tomorrow.

@Peter
i dont know winbuilder or hojope issue, but this line (HIVESFT.INF)

HKLM,&#34;SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Telephony\Locations&#34;,&#34;DisableCallWaiting1&#34;,0x00000002,&#34;70#,&#34;
creates this value in pe registry: "70#$c" :)

Peter

OKI
Tomorrow ... :)
"70#$c" or
"70##$c" ?

Should be really "70#," ?
If yes, Bullsh...
Will take some time, because it disturbes all internal definitions ... :)

Peter



#65531 Back Compatibility

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 10:27 PM in Development

Thanks, Lancelot!

Let me explain the "disaster"

It has not been the technical result; this has been very good, as you explained.

For me the "disaster" has been that in the forum everything run out of the developer team's control.

Peter



#65535 [OT?] Ctmag and Nightman

Posted by pscEx on 21 April 2009 - 10:38 PM in VistaPE

Do CTMAG left the project? I just did a search for his posts and it seems his last post was January 30 this year. :)

What happened to him?

And any news about Nightman and a possible new VistaPE RC candidate? :)


ctmag is a professional newspaper editor, working here for a while, to create an article for the German C'T magazine.
And he did a good job here. I think at least 15 different features I implemented into WinBuilder following his suggestions.

If you want, I can e-mail him to contact the forum again.

Nightman due to the forum: My personal opinion: ???

Maybe you concentrate on the new Win7PE project by YahooUK

Peter



#65560 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 08:46 AM in LiveXP

Is "70#$c" , should be "70#,"
:)

Fixed!

Next beta

Peter



#65561 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 08:49 AM in NaughtyPE

The FishRadio bug is fixed.

Shortcut generation has been wrong, if the exe name contains a space.

Next beta!

@Medevil: Can you now provide a regstry bug sample?

Peter



#65569 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 10:41 AM in NaughtyPE

@peter psc
the fixes i offer is not about verify script behaviour. Fixes only changes opening log file method which results it working in all windows (hostosx64 and hostosx86) when nativeex barabone used.
LiveXP being nativeex based project follows vbverify script versions which result log file not opening on hostosx64 with current codings. (if i fix lines in one version, galapo uploading the next version with unfixed lines, things goes like that so i stop fixing the lines on livexp :) ) . Anyway, it is not a big deal as i get used to this vbverify error :) :)

Anywhere I remember that you suggested sth.

Can you (sorry!) please repeat your fix suggestion?
Please no links.

I'll try to apply to verify. If not recommended, I'll report here, why.

Peter :)



#65570 Win7PE with Winbuilder 74 & 76

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 10:44 AM in Win7PE

I think it does not have drivers for vmware eternet controller. It does'nt installs.

LiveXP contains a VMWare ethernet driver

Peter



#65581 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 01:23 PM in LiveXP

In order to test for 077 beta 2 publishing, I made a fresh download (complete) and tested with 'factory settings'.

In the PE the network did not work.

I tried the 'Actualize WinBuilder' button in the project's GUI and downloaded the recommended, tested WB.

But this also did not work.

I also tried to uncheck HWPNP and VirNet driver: Did not help.

To compare, I built nativeEx barebone with the beta candidate:

Network working.

As result, it looks like the new (unpublished) beta is not responsible for this LiveXP behaviour.

There seems to be something in the project causing the network failure.

Peter

Attached File  log.7z   145.88KB   306 downloads



#65586 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 01:54 PM in LiveXP

i understand the warnings and fixes are on the way now (currently i havent check fully with wb077b1)

but with a quick test using wb076, network working nicely with virtualbox, i guess no problem you testing with 076 too.

Lancelot, take a coffee, take a lot of fresh air (maybe also a Raki can help, if it is not too early for that). And then read my post again :)
I have the troubles with 076, too!

But I currently do not remember whether I deleted the registry cache before testing (I usually do so). Give me some minutes to do a new test.

Peter



#65588 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 02:36 PM in LiveXP

But I currently do not remember whether I deleted the registry cache before testing (I usually do so). Give me some minutes to do a new test.

Done!

Result:

The LiveXP project downloaded today morning, does not bring PE network connection, even if built with WB 076.

Peter

Attached File  log.7z   229.62KB   354 downloads



#65591 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 02:39 PM in LiveXP

:) yep i definately need a break :)

Do not hurry up! :)

Take time to solve the problems issues. :)

Peter :)



#65599 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 04:03 PM in LiveXP

The LiveXP project downloaded today morning, does not bring PE network connection, even if built with WB 076.

:) :) :) :(

LiveXP with qEmu has network.

nativeEx with VirtualBox.Script version 20 works fine.

LiveXP, even the (copied from nativeEx) version 20 of VirtualBox does not have network.

:) :) :) :(

Peter

BTW: LiveXP VMWare.script brings an error and does not start the emulator.



#65606 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 04:36 PM in LiveXP

I suggest that you and me currently do not spend more time on this issue.

I think that this is an interesting question for Holger, and I'm going to PM him.

Peter



#65609 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 04:56 PM in NaughtyPE

But you can help me with the foxit.script.

thunn used a pretty eccentric way to write that script.
imo, it should still work. But it doesn't.

This is a real proof of incompatibility! (and a candidate for the 'Compatibility' command :) )
Since the new variables logic in WB 076 there is a difference between "Variables" (included in %) and "Macros" (having no %).
And the handling of them is going two different ways.

Therefore the %HKLM% is not recognized as macro, with (???) results.

Try this:

&#91;variables&#93;

 %ConfigDir%=%TargetDir%\i386\system32\config

 _HKLM=RegWrite#$cHKLM

 _HKCU=RegWrite#$cHKLM

 

 &#91;process&#93;

 RegHiveLoad,WB-default,%ConfigDir%\default

 RegHiveLoad,WB-software,%ConfigDir%\software

 _HKLM,0x1,WB-software\Classes\.pdf,,FoxitReader.Document

 _HKCU,0x1,&#34;WB-default\Software\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader\MainFrame&#34;,ShowStatusBar,1

 RegHiveUnLoad,WB-default

 RegHiveUNLoad,WB-software

PS: When you say next beta you mean beta of 077 or 076?

Current actual beta is 077 beta 1

Next will be 077 beta 2

Peter



#65611 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 05:11 PM in LiveXP

in virtualbox v.2.1.4 i see 2 network adapters.
'virtnet network adapter' > ok
'vmware accelerated amd pcnet adapter' > exclamation mark

if you remove 'vmware accelerated amd pcnet adapter'
and start hwpnp 'vmware accelerated amd pcnet adapter' will be redetected (exclamation mark)

if you remove both in device manager, then rescan using device manager,
then start Penetwork you will get 'amd pcnet family adapter' (driver is pcntpci5.sys)
>Network is ok.

So that seems not to be only a question for Holger, but also a question for the 'project management'?

Peter



#65613 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 05:29 PM in NaughtyPE

Jaclaz,

your post is very suspicious for me!

Maybe (secretly) you agree a bit to the revolution I made from 074 to 076?

Peter



#65616 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 05:40 PM in NaughtyPE

To have the possibility of writing:

_HKLM,0x1,etc.,etc.


instead of:

RegWrite, HKLM, 0x1,etc.,etc.

Just a hint for the .script developers who do not know yet:

The 'Magic Wand' writes
RegWrite,HKLM,0x1,Section,Key&#40;Text&#41;,String
on one click. :)

Allow me to add three lines from my 'Compatibility' post:

  • Which statements in my script do not work anymore, and
  • How many weeks I have to spend to correct
  • I cannot correct it




Peter



#65620 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 05:57 PM in LiveXP

So that seems not to be only a question for Holger, but also a question for the 'project management'?

Just a crazy idea:

What about including and excluding the corresponding NICs depending on the selected emulator?

Peter



#65622 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 06:02 PM in LiveXP

I am only a mini helper around for LiveXP and aware that definately not qualified to manage a project (especially LiveXP).
I try to do things as far as i know and still learning.

You never know what you can do, before you tried it!

Peter :)



#65623 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 06:30 PM in LiveXP

I dont know the reason, but my tests shows issue solved after updating "5 - CopyAndExpand.Script" to v22 , currently available on livexp server.

Maybe we do a break for a week, get new power, and continue then!

I was going to test the latest LiveXP version (including the Copy&expand 22).
I did a download of 'Everything new'

The PE started with "Bootdisk expired" and asked me for a password :)

Peter



#65636 Diddy

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 08:03 PM in Site feedback

I'm not sure to be right, but I think that diddy should be 'red coloured'

Peter



#65638 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 08:09 PM in LiveXP

you enabled sth you shouldnt, probably a mistake when clicking by mouse :) (i love my keyboard style on wb :) )

anyway
Solution probably is: disable shell security script before building (Basic--->Shells--->Explorer tweaks--->Shell Security) which is not selected as default (check here )

I did so, and I'm proud(?) to tell you, that still some :) is working.
Also with C&E version 22 / VirtualBox no running network in the PE.

Peter



#65641 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 08:16 PM in LiveXP

Peter

Is there any reason to keep these values empty on PE !?

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
"Common AppData"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
"AppData"

if not, should i do it with a seperate script or what you suggest..... ????

ps: i will look forward on lan issue tomorrow, enough for today :) .

For me it is also enough for today.

But I think that these reg keys are filled out by nativeEx core. If not: Today is :) Day! :)

Peter



#65646 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 09:03 PM in LiveXP

not sure about the meaning of filled out

Ask babylon for [German] ausfüllen.
Here we have the lack of (our both) English knowledge.
Your Computer translations are correct.

It means: Write into the empty, predefined text box.

And simply: "define value"

Peter



#65649 [project] NaughtyPE

Posted by pscEx on 22 April 2009 - 09:11 PM in NaughtyPE

Foxit.script fixed /updated to work with WB076/077.

I did not see the 'Thanks' some posts above! :)

Peter :)



#65689 LiveXP

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 11:10 AM in LiveXP

Dear Ladies and Gandlemans,

I need download the ETBoot.part1.rar , but some come everytime a ERROR . What can i Do. Or can you said me the anotter download Site.
I Want make a WINDOWS XP DVD who can startet of all Computers.

Thank You for Help
JUMANJI

Hi Jumanji,
First a 'Welcome in our community'

In the LiveXP forum you are a bit displaced with your question.

You should post this question in the ETBoot topic.

Nevertheless: I could download w/o any troubles. So the reason propably is due to something at your site.

[German] Offensichtlich hast Du mit Englisch Schwierigkeiten. Es gibt da ein Forum "Boot Land > Groups > Community forum > International support > German", wo die Fragen auf Deutsch besprochen werden können. Aber besser ist es natürlich, sich im Hauptforum durchzukämpfen. Hier schauen einfach mehr Leute rein.[/German]

Peter



#65690 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 11:42 AM in LiveXP

fxscrpt

new mmc on server :)

on nativeEx server, too!

Peter



#65693 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 12:59 PM in LiveXP

Congratulations! :)

Now there is the same configuration like in (the allways 3-emulators ready) nativeEx_barebone. :)

Peter

BTW: Maybe it is now time to again think about my topic 'LiveXP - Factory settings'. It is really not the best idea to include 'Everything selected' :)



#65698 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 01:40 PM in LiveXP

BTW: Maybe it is now time to again think about my topic 'LiveXP - Factory settings'. It is really not the best idea to include 'Everything selected' :)

On the other hand, we catch network bugy with that :) :)

Maybe someone can explain me this logic:
  • Put a couple of unneeded scripts into a project:
    A certain script fails
  • Remove the unneeded scripts:
    The previously not running script now runs
  • Tell the world: Introducing the bug gave me the possibility to fix it!
    Everything is running now, and nobody knows why!
@ALL
Please tell me, who needs (and for what) the scripts
  • VirtNet Network Adapter.script
  • VMWareNIC.script
    (VirtualBoxNIC_AMD_PCNET.script delivers a VMWare Ethernet Driver, look at the description)
Peter



#65699 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 01:51 PM in LiveXP

Now there is the same configuration like in (the allways 3-emulators ready) nativeEx_barebone. :)

a question for the nativeex barabone 'project management'?


:) :) (red added by me) :) :)

Thanks for the applause!

As to be seen, nativeEx_barebone from the very beginning works well with the three popular emulators.

Peter



#65701 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 02:06 PM in LiveXP

Any progress with AppData key ?! :)

You continously ignore that I'm an old man and my memory is starting with 'today morning' :)

What's AppData key?

BTW: I'm going to write some new concerns into 'factory settings'. Try to make the best of it!

Peter



#65703 LiveXP

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 02:17 PM in LiveXP

To test the new WinBuilder 077 beta 2 before publishing, I made a test with LiveXP.
  • Download latest stuff (complete)
  • Defined source CD
  • Built
  • Run in VirtualBox
    (after some rebuilds due to network drivers which are not relevant here)
  • Tried some programs
The first program "a-squared free" suggested an update, and I agreed. Than it hang.

I tried "CDImageGUI", played around a bit (of course I did not try to burn anything). Then I exited:
Error message that the app was not able to write to drive X:


Suggestion:

The 'factory settings' should define
  • EITHER Something making the ISO writable, BootSDI, FBWF or whatelse
  • OR Deselect all scripts wanting to write to the system drive
  • OR Change the scripts to write to the RAM drive
Peter



#65707 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 02:30 PM in LiveXP

Here the shell folders created under nativeEX_barebone:
shellfolders.gif
?
:)
?
or a new 'conflict of interests' by some LiveXP scripts which do not like each other?
?

Peter



#65709 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 02:42 PM in LiveXP

WOW!!!!

Here the Turkish Shell folders:
shellfolders_TR.gif

You should learn German if you need the AppData key!

Peter :)

Currently no idea where to search, but I start to search! :)



#65714 NaughtyPE-PrettyPacks

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 02:50 PM in Development

Found way to reproduce. It doesnt seem to be the projects fault.
First dowload project
Dont define source using path tab.
Run project build.
You will be asked for source.
After you select source.
Wbverify will pop up the eror message
Errors:
"This project needs XP or W2003 as source"

I remember that anywhen I fixed this. And I have to apologize that I did it silently in nativeEx_barebone.

It happens on the very first run after a fresh download, when Verify does not see the information which is written by the (later running) projectinfo.

As far as I remember, other projects can fix this by using latest !Fundamental and ProjectInfo scripts.

Sorry: They need WB 076 or higher! So, be careful when copying, and if necessary, adapt. Replace the SET, ... PERMANENT by writing into script.project:Variables

Peter



#65715 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 02:56 PM in LiveXP

Testing with enu is much easier for me :)
And the EaryStarter is the latest one I got from LiveXP!

Maybe something has been mixed. Thanks!
OR: You downloaded at the wrong time.
I made several tests with new genUpdates, and the test candidate has been EarlyStarter. Maybe you jumped in the middle of the test session. Just try to redownload EarlyStarter again.

Peter



#65724 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 03:29 PM in LiveXP

wrong, v13 is on livexp server, and i wish you dont change the icon of earlystarter :)

If you have version 14 or 12, you really got one of my experiments.
(And I self have been a victim of my experiments: actually there has been version 12; corrected)

Peter :)



#65726 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 03:39 PM in LiveXP

Testing with enu is much easier for me :)


HUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

With German, English, and Turkish XP source, in the ISO the registry contains the 'AppKey'.

But in English and Turkish it disappears during PE boot, while in German it remains.

:) is no explanation.

What happens?
Which startup task does delete the values (not the keys!)?
How it can be avoided?

The causer truelly is a 'fundamental' task, because also in nativeEx_barebone with nearly no additional apps this happens.

Peter



#65733 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 04:01 PM in LiveXP

This is Houston. Say again please.


Houston, we've had a problem. We missed some necessary folders in the ISO's tree.

Peter



#65739 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 04:09 PM in LiveXP

I know Explorer deletes some Shell Folders values, if
corresponding Folders are not present!
Add these folders to modelram!

Thanks Pete®

Exactly this I found and reported three posts before.

I think that it is now only a question of some Mediterrean minutes to present the final solution.

Peter :)

EDIT: Funny, I wrote the 'r' in parenthses. And the clever forum's software upgraded to a registered trademark.

You can be proud, Pete[r]!



#65746 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 04:43 PM in LiveXP

Q&D test:

Your new script with NAT unchecked and checked (adapter #1) allowed me to google. :)

Small concern: You should use the actual script version 20 (nativeEx server) for changes. There are some enhancements with installing / deinstalling components to the VM.

Peter



#65752 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 05:14 PM in LiveXP

BTW: i replaced VBoxManWrap.exe by RegApiUtil.exe.
RegApiUtil.exe can convert 'VBoxManage.exe list blabla' output
to winbuilder readable ini file.

Looks good, I allways appreciate improvements!

And I think the fact that I got knowledge about this exchange only by your post, shows that it is also working in the historic environment!

I suggest that you do the some 'technical' cahnges in the GUI, define a proper version number, and that will be the new script for nativeEx as well as for LiveXP.

Peter



#65754 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 05:40 PM in LiveXP

:) :)
I currently use virtualbox portable ( Portable-VirtualBox.exe ) which helps me a lot when migrating from x64 <-> x86 (both app32 and app64 folders there :) )
Is it possible to use virtualbox portable with this new script ?? (checking for if regkey not exists, if file exists (%Textbox%) --> ) :)

a line from ReadMe.txt (never tested)

Yes and no!

The app is portable, because there are no registry entries, therefore also nothing to check.

In order to use it, the GUI must have an option "Use portable VBox placed at <TextBox>"

But I do not see any technical problems.

Maybe one of our Turkish friends, living around Izmir, can suggest a script ....

Peter



#65760 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 06:19 PM in LiveXP

Thanks Lancelot!

i'm out now, but firtst:
WB077b1 BootSDI bug found (i hope)
this code

//_Calculate,&#34;Ceiling&#40;DirGetSize&#40;&#39;%TargetDir%&#39;&#41;/100*%pNumberBox2%/1048576&#41;&#34;,ImgSize

 Retrieve,FOLDERSIZE,%TargetDir%,%ImgSize%

 message,%ImgSize%,information

 StrFormat,DIV,%ImgSize%,100

 message,%ImgSize%,information

 StrFormat,MULT,%IMGSize%,%pNumberBox2%

 message,%ImgSize%,information

 StrFormat,DIV,%ImgSize%,1048576

 message,%ImgSize%,information

 Run,%ScriptFile%,ImaFile
shows me these numbers:
103052700
1715335408
17153354
-727711744

%IMGSize% < 0 :)

bug in DIV > img file not created by fsutil > vdk.exe hangs ....

:)

Peter

I'm trying to test in the debugger.

For that I need the contents of %pNumberBox2%

Peter



#65762 LiveXP

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 06:33 PM in LiveXP

A regular PE user should be smart enough to copy it to a writeable media inorder to update :)
well, AV applications are recommended by livexp, so i keep it as it is,
and also add info to Apps\Security\AntiVirus\folder.project

Here you hit what I want to tell the world with this topic!

I'm not a regular PE user!
I downloaded WinBuilder with LiveXP for the first time, build, and run the PE.
The app asks me to update.

I'm a dummy user. I do not copy anything to anywhere. I just say 'Yes, update'

And that gives me unexpected results:

For me: WinBuilder is Bulls..., Forget it, Try BartPE

Exactly: The Bulls... is WinBuilder, not the project, not the script, not the app!

Peter

Especially @my friend Lancelot:
When I do not answer in this topic any more, it is not a confrontation. It is because I do not have to add any more, and because I'm now focussed on the next beta.

Try to make yourself a dummy user and as dummy user test the current 'factory settings'

Peter



#65764 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 06:49 PM in LiveXP

Thanks Lancelot!

i'm out now, but firtst:
WB077b1 BootSDI bug found (i hope)
this code

//_Calculate,&#34;Ceiling&#40;DirGetSize&#40;&#39;%TargetDir%&#39;&#41;/100*%pNumberBox2%/1048576&#41;&#34;,ImgSize

  Retrieve,FOLDERSIZE,%TargetDir%,%ImgSize%

  message,%ImgSize%,information

  StrFormat,DIV,%ImgSize%,100

  message,%ImgSize%,information

  StrFormat,MULT,%IMGSize%,%pNumberBox2%

  message,%ImgSize%,information

  StrFormat,DIV,%ImgSize%,1048576

  message,%ImgSize%,information

  Run,%ScriptFile%,ImaFile
shows me these numbers:
103052700
1715335408
17153354
-727711744

%IMGSize% < 0 :)

bug in DIV > img file not created by fsutil > vdk.exe hangs ....

:)

Peter

You should have put it to the bug tracker, rather than discussing here!
Retrieve,FOLDERSIZE,%TargetDir%,%ImgSize%

  message,%ImgSize%,information

  StrFormat,DIV,%ImgSize%,100
Results in

103052700
1715335408

103052700 / 100 = 1715335408?

Sorry. It is a random success, that I detect bugs in a forum's topic.
When they are written in the bug tracker, the 'detect success' is 100%

But I think that this bug is fixed in beta 2

Peter



#65768 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 06:59 PM in LiveXP

Peter psc

just reminding the old man, :)
at wb77beta2, also please dont forget wait, warnings i got :)

check log_20090419_061927_wb077b1_bootsdi_fails.html file in http://lancelot.winb...9_062832_wb.rar

I never saw Wait,? warnings in my (currently still private) beta 2!

Peter :)



#65770 LiveXP

Posted by pscEx on 23 April 2009 - 07:08 PM in LiveXP

But simply, it tries to download, and says "i can not connect to download".
If one tries to use with bartpe, he will get the same result :)

In spite what I said last post, here the VERY LAST reply:

#1: It CAN download, but it cannot WRITE!

#2: If you look into my profile: I like to do what others cannot do! If BartPE has a 'bad' result, there are a lot of ways to do it better here.
WinBuilder offers the possibility.

But you have to be creative and leave the 'common' ways!

Peter